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What we refer to as "AIP" is the method of generating the electrical power, it doesn't restrict in anyway the battery technology used to store the energy. Choice of battery affects the charger technology, but this is a relatively simple issue, and power generation & storage can be developed and trialed independently.
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Project 677: Lada class submarine
Big_Gazza- Posts : 4915
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George1- Posts : 18528
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Б-585 "Санкт-Петербург"
https://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/192933.html
https://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/192933.html
hoom- Posts : 2352
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2nd boat Kronstadt to be launched 20th Sept 
https://flotprom.ru/2018/%D0%90%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5%D0%92%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%84%D0%B810/
https://flotprom.ru/2018/%D0%90%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5%D0%92%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%84%D0%B810/
GunshipDemocracy- Posts : 6174
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Location : fishin on Stalin´s Strait between Mexico and Canada
hoom wrote:2nd boat Kronstadt to be launched 20th Sept
why shock ? whis is actually good. Second new sub for Baltic Fleet.
hoom- Posts : 2352
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The fact that there is any news at all, has nothing for a long time.
Also apparently in March Deputy Minister of Defense said it wouldn't be launched until 2019...
Also apparently in March Deputy Minister of Defense said it wouldn't be launched until 2019...
GunshipDemocracy- Posts : 6174
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hoom wrote:The fact that there is any news at all, has nothing for a long time.
Also apparently in March Deputy Minister of Defense said it wouldn't be launched until 2019...
then they found solutions to problems that hampered launching perhaps
hoom- Posts : 2352
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Couple of recent pics
Isos- Posts : 11605
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To defend them for the smoke, they have a big country full of trees that need CO2 to grow up 
GunshipDemocracy- Posts : 6174
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Isos wrote:To defend them for the smoke, they have a big country full of trees that need CO2 to grow up
that's a Stirling engine with external coal heat source
GarryB- Posts : 40573
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Or is it hot steam from a hydrogen fuel cell?
hoom- Posts : 2352
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Or a cold just started diesel...
Hole- Posts : 11132
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It´s a diesel Sub, so it´s ok. If a nuclear sub smokes like this… 
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flamming_python- Posts : 9562
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hoom wrote:Or a cold just started diesel...
Could be, but why would the diesel be off for so long?
Running on batteries?
GunshipDemocracy- Posts : 6174
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flamming_python wrote:
Could be, but why would the diesel be off for so long?
Running on batteries?
no she's refactoring bio food to imitate sea mammals
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hoom wrote:Couple of recent pics
Now that is just embarrassing ...
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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no it isn't.
I guess you have zero experience with diesel during cold snaps?
I guess you have zero experience with diesel during cold snaps?
Isos- Posts : 11605
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It may be related to the AIP and not the engine. Even old kilos don't smoke, why would this thing smoke ?
Hole- Posts : 11132
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Who the f... cares? This is a military vessel. It is still much cleaner than german diesel engines.
Admin- Posts : 2926
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miketheterrible wrote:no it isn't.
I guess you have zero experience with diesel during cold snaps?
It is not exactly cold there this time of year.
GunshipDemocracy- Posts : 6174
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Vladimir79 wrote:
It is not exactly cold there this time of year.
it was morning and looks like there's no sun. In St Petersburg now at night can be 10-11 Celsius.
hoom- Posts : 2352
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There wasn't a specific date given by the poster @Balancer, he does say North & a 2nd poster said it was July.
The other pic is St Petersburg Navy Day (I presume) so has apparently transitioned before/since.
Kronshtadt
The other pic is St Petersburg Navy Day (I presume) so has apparently transitioned before/since.
Kronshtadt
dino00- Posts : 1677
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"Admiralty Shipyards" are planning to sign in 2018 a contract for two more submarines "Lada"
Submarines of Project 677 belong to the fourth generation of diesel-electric submarines
More:
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5585175
Submarines of Project 677 belong to the fourth generation of diesel-electric submarines
More:
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5585175
hoom- Posts : 2352
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Now thats a surprise
Filling out a 6 ship squadron?
Filling out a 6 ship squadron?
Tingsay- Posts : 183
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Are they with AIP?
PapaDragon- Posts : 13479
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hoom wrote:Now thats a surprise
Filling out a 6 ship squadron?
Tartus needs hulls
Tingsay wrote:Are they with AIP?
No but 1/3 smaller crew complement and much better specs all round.
And it's in the water:Submarine Kronstadt launched
https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/112221/
