franco wrote:Have been watching these bases myself. Unfortunately the google images are almost a year apart so impossible to get an accurate count.
The 22nd Fighter base is the most up to date one from April of this year. However on the other hand, pictures a month apart last year, shows the 22nd base with even more planes (57) then it has in the latest photos (52).
I have heard that Chuguyevka will become a separate Mig-31 fighter base again but have also heard that the 22nd was to become a Fighter Regiment with a squadron each of -31BM, -35 and -30SM's. Time will soon tell.
"to get an accurate count" with a satellite?
Is imposible, how you know if there are 3 Mig-31 of Yelizovo or 5 Su-35 from Dzemgi??
How many planes are flying this day in that moment? How many are in the repair plant ?
Do you know how many planes there are in the shelters? For example in Khurba must still have arround 40 or 45 Su-24M/M2 (before the Su-34) and never you see more of 20 or 22
The same in Monchegrosk , Domna, etc...
If you saw a satélite image with 57 planes at 22 IAP base , then the image is of the week of Aviadarts drills or East Military District maneovers
Is that high number of planes , because someone take this image and put in that web
The same with the Sokolovka base with Sukhois and Migs , and that does not mean any plane or regiment in Sokolovka nowadays
One year ago only have about 18 Mig-31 and the same number of Sukhois in Vladovostok
Even several Su-35 suposedly handed over are still in KnaAPO plant. For example Nº28 of 23 IAP start to fly at end of last year and Nº27 only photo is inside the plant last year, when teorically was handed over in december 2014
I just told the more realistic number of planes of 22 IAP , most of SU-27SM has been transferred and several are not flyable , waiting for repairs
The photo of Mig-31´s in the shelter area is taken in may this year at the same time of the satellte, there are more potos. and probably in this moment were all , or all less one the planes parked in the base
As I say in other post , a squadron are pilots not planes ,
if in 22 IAP have two suhkoi sqadrons , simply are using lees planes now ,more time each plane, expecting for more planes, or pilots are in Lipestk at retraining with Su-35
The same with Mig-31 , if there are only one squadron and now have 25 planes , then the second squadron (of pilots) is training at Savasleyka , that casually received some planes of same type (BSM) one year before 22 IAP
About "22nd was to become a Fighter Regiment with a squadron each of -31BM, -35 and -30SM's" this is not true
I heard some things like that in fórums based in nothing. If 22 IAP receives Su-30SM is for "two seater" of SU-35 squadrons , as in 23 IAP
Also I heard Millerovo will receive a squadron of Su-35 , when the planes are for Besovets , because some journalist published mistaken ideas
The air force reform is clear , regimental classic system with two squadrons is the way for next years
SU-30SM replace Su-24 in the Navy
Su-30SM replace Mig-29 regiments in VVS (and also used in Dzemgi as "two seater", not clear in short term for other Su-35 regiments because the Su-30M2 are working very well)
Su-35 replace all SU-27S/P/SM in VVS
Su-34 replace all Su-24M/M2/MR in VVS
In the case of Mig-31 , the total forcé will be:
4 regiments and one squadron in Savasleyka for VVS
2 or 3 squadrons for Navy (if finally open Tiksi)
The only doubt is wath plane will complement Mig-31 in Monchegorsk and Yelizovo
here you can see the Mig-31 of Monchegrosk with the symbols of the Navy (after more 2 years were transferred) during the Navy day parade in Leningrad last week
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