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this is the first to be built, 4 OPV are planned, and 8 CPV, and is building the second OPV
this is the first to be built, 4 OPV are planned, and 8 CPV, and is building the second OPV
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Colombian Armed Forces.
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Howitzer Santa Barbara 155 mm Made in SPAIN
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Thanks for the pics Murillo!
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ThanksTR1 wrote:Thanks for the pics Murillo!
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Whatever happened to the BTR-80 license production deal?
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emmmTR1 wrote:Whatever happened to the BTR-80 license production deal?
everything was fine, but for reasons of logistics needed to change the engine by a Russian American, but the Russians refused, and only 2 were built ...
but acquired M1117, and it seems that is under negotiation LAV Striker, With MBT's ...
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Ahh, too bad that they could not come to an agreement.
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A bit strange wanting an American engine in a Russian armoured vehicle, but then with the experiences with US components in Russian vehicles I guess the Russian side decided it simply wasn't worth the bother.
Strange that they entered talks to buy Russian APCs if they wanted American stuff in the first place.
The huge irony of course is that fairly soon the Russians will start production of Boomerang-25 and there will be a lot of BTRs that are surplus to requirements in the Russian Army anyway.
Columbia probably wouldn't be interested in the older model BTR-60s but the BTR-82s might be worth looking at, but then of course they don't have US engines so they will probably have already started production of LAVs by then.
Strange that they entered talks to buy Russian APCs if they wanted American stuff in the first place.
The huge irony of course is that fairly soon the Russians will start production of Boomerang-25 and there will be a lot of BTRs that are surplus to requirements in the Russian Army anyway.
Columbia probably wouldn't be interested in the older model BTR-60s but the BTR-82s might be worth looking at, but then of course they don't have US engines so they will probably have already started production of LAVs by then.
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colombiaGarryB wrote:A bit strange wanting an American engine in a Russian armoured vehicle, but then with the experiences with US components in Russian vehicles I guess the Russian side decided it simply wasn't worth the bother.
Strange that they entered talks to buy Russian APCs if they wanted American stuff in the first place.
The huge irony of course is that fairly soon the Russians will start production of Boomerang-25 and there will be a lot of BTRs that are surplus to requirements in the Russian Army anyway.
Columbia probably wouldn't be interested in the older model BTR-60s but the BTR-82s might be worth looking at, but then of course they don't have US engines so they will probably have already started production of LAVs by then.
Understand that most of the equipment of the Armed Forces of Colombia, in one way or another with American materials, the Russian engine just does not taste in the Navy, they wanted to change the engine and the Russians were not agree with that, Russian engine it is not impossible, if the Navy said it needed to do that is because it could, in addition to those BTR80 were built in Colombia ...
but, they still (I think) that this current manufacturing license (I will find the data) ...
While ....
COPES-National Police
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colombia
Oops, sorry...
I can certainly understand the logistic advantage of commonality of engines, but if you only want vanilla icecream why go to the chocolate chip section?
I am guessing it was either the price or the chance of local production where the American alternative was either too expensive or they were not willing to allow local production.
If that is the case then what they really want is for the Americans to lower their prices or allow local production, so I would expect they will ask for US engines and US sights and US weapons till the Russians say no, but hoping the discussions will push the Americans to change their minds.
If on the other hand they just asked if an American engine was possible on the chance to save a little money by using an existing spare parts pool and existing workforce trained to maintain it.
For the Russians I suspect the point of selling their products is to sell their products and they would likely not want to have to integrate a US engine into such a design, as for most of their clients there is no requirement for US engines.
I am surprised they are not looking at the BTR-82 for a production licence... its anti spall liner and removal of NBC liner make it more practical and of course minor things like single continuous ammo belts for the weapons and improved sighting systems and increased armour probably make it a rather better vehicle without increasing cost too much.
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GarryB wrote:colombia
Oops, sorry...
I can certainly understand the logistic advantage of commonality of engines, but if you only want vanilla icecream why go to the chocolate chip section?
I am guessing it was either the price or the chance of local production where the American alternative was either too expensive or they were not willing to allow local production.
If that is the case then what they really want is for the Americans to lower their prices or allow local production, so I would expect they will ask for US engines and US sights and US weapons till the Russians say no, but hoping the discussions will push the Americans to change their minds.
If on the other hand they just asked if an American engine was possible on the chance to save a little money by using an existing spare parts pool and existing workforce trained to maintain it.
For the Russians I suspect the point of selling their products is to sell their products and they would likely not want to have to integrate a US engine into such a design, as for most of their clients there is no requirement for US engines.
I am surprised they are not looking at the BTR-82 for a production licence... its anti spall liner and removal of NBC liner make it more practical and of course minor things like single continuous ammo belts for the weapons and improved sighting systems and increased armour probably make it a rather better vehicle without increasing cost too much.
That's what I think ... although the problem if the engine did not like, why? not ... but they sought to see if I could change ... for example when they are armed with MI17 rocket-Americans ...
Here is a manufacturing license for 150 ... but not if it still continues ...
One clarification, the BTR80 ern for the Navy, the LAV / Striker for the army ...
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I guess the Navy chose the BTR-80 over the Stryker because the BTR-80 is amphibious and the Stryker is not.
Of course the BTR-80 is not really fully amphibious and is designed for fording rivers and lakes rather than operating in open ocean.
AFAIK the Russian Navy is ordering a navalised version of the tracked Kurganets-25 which will be designed to operate in surf and rough sea states.
I don't think the Russians will be exporting their new vehicle families any time soon because they will have enough on their plates just handling domestic production.
Of course the BTR-80 is not really fully amphibious and is designed for fording rivers and lakes rather than operating in open ocean.
AFAIK the Russian Navy is ordering a navalised version of the tracked Kurganets-25 which will be designed to operate in surf and rough sea states.
I don't think the Russians will be exporting their new vehicle families any time soon because they will have enough on their plates just handling domestic production.
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Police Aviation.
providing security for the summit of the americas
providing security for the summit of the americas
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Mobile Carabinier Squadrons - National Police
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presidential tribute to fallen police officers and soldiers in battle ...
Police and Military Funeral for murdered by FARC terrorists last year
Police and Military Funeral for murdered by FARC terrorists last year
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National Army
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National Police.
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national police, security for the summit of the americas
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Navy...
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Not if they knew ... but Colombia has a battalion of infantry in the Sinai ...
History
In development of the Camp David agreements of the Multinational Force of Observers director chosen by the UN general secretary, Lemon R. Hunt, on letter dated in September 1981, requested the Colombia president Julio Caesar Turbay Ayala the possibility to study about the contribution Colombia with a 500 Infantry men battalion to the foreseen military organism.
Mission
The Multinational Force of Peace and Observers (MFO), it is an independent mission (non dependant from the United Nations) of Peace Maintenance, created as a result of the Camp David 1978 agreements and the1979 Peace Treaty. www.mfo.org
Activities
Every day the Battalion Colombia meets in the morning in the Weapons Square to verify the activities to develop. There they find out that types of services and activities to develop that should be completed by means of the agenda, a valuable and opportune document for these routine events.
Forced Skills
This competition is the representative in the life at the MFO. It is a 20 years tradition full of fights, victories, and defeats. Highlighted with the charisma and the strength of each country, Colombia is always fighting to win, always in constant training and capable of obtaining the victory.
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