Russian Ground Forces: News #1

GarryB wrote:Can tell by the shell cases those are T-62 115mm rounds, not 125mm rounds which are two piece.

Also I would say just by looking at it 5 is Bastion and therefore 9 is both Titan and Bastion outside the shell case (ie fired... in flight).

Number 4 and 8 are not guided... they look like standard HEAT rounds.

Interesting also that Berkut and Bastion are 100mm calibre weapons suggesting they were designed to be compatible with 100mm guns too.

115 mm T-62 rounds are for export as Russia retire their T-62 tanks and with that they don't use 115 mm cal guns anymore. Berkut and Bastion are 100 mm missiles and will be used in BMP-3 and BMD-4 vehicles with their 100 mm guns. Also they could be used in 100 mm cal. guns in T-55, which are still used in large numbers around the World, so there is a big market for them.

medo wrote:115 mm T-62 rounds are for export as Russia retire their T-62 tanks and with that they don't use 115 mm cal guns anymore. Berkut and Bastion are 100 mm missiles and will be used in BMP-3 and BMD-4 vehicles with their 100 mm guns. Also they could be used in 100 mm cal. guns in T-55, which are still used in large numbers around the World, so there is a big market for them.

This is a very old image, I have had it for 10 years. I thought I would post it just out of interest.

And thank you for posting... I love those old ammo pictures.

I suspected it was old as it looks rather similar to other old drawings from various Russian sources I have seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FMD0Ibyr4M

T-80U crossing a river, in glorious 1080p.

Nice to see T-80 still in service.

Vladivostok Military police unit

http://pressa-tof.livejournal.com/233721.html (All images)

Reportedly the first interception video of Kornet ATGM by Israel new APS

Should be warning bells for ATGM users

Austin wrote:Reportedly the first interception video of Kornet ATGM by Israel new APS

Should be warning bells for ATGM users

Yes ATGM users of the cave-dwelling, goat herding kind. It should be noted that either Iran has license-production for building Kornet's or has succesfully reverse-engineered them (it's not clear which one is true) which pre-date current sanctions, and since 2006 Lebanon war, in all likeliness in the 8 years that passed that the number of Kornet or Kornet-copy's of launchers in Iranian stocks (that are being handed out like candy or leaflets to Hezbollah) have grew exponentially, in all likelihood thousands of Kornet launchers and tens of thousands of missiles have been built since then. The question is that what's the likelihood the Trophy system on the Merkeva 4 tanks can withstand an onslaught of hundreds if not thousands of Kornet missiles being fired at them at once? Even a bigger question is if the Iranian's "do" have license production to build Kornet's, do they have rights to build Kornet-EM's? If so then it's quite possible Hezbollah may obtainined Iranian trucks with Kornet-EM's built in to them, meaning they have ATGM systems designed to defeat the Trophy APS system quite easily.

Kornet-EM fires two missiles within split seconds of each other which is way too fast for Trophy system to react, or it could fire 8 missiles within split seconds of each other for a sadists enjoyment in overkill, and another 8 can be automatically loaded and fired within minutes of the original 8 missiles guided with a laser-beam riding guidance that can't be jammed, all at a stand off range of 8-10km. Kornet-EM is a system that the Trophy APS designers have no chance of defeating. What's really interesting is that Kornet-EM still has tons of growth potential, whether they develop additional counter measures against APS such as a decoy rocket like the RPG-30, maybe that decoy rocket is full of chaff and contains a mini-EMP, may'be they develop a missile that flies normally but within the last few seconds that missile has a hypersonic sprint, maybe an extended future missile length may include a bigger warhead and or more propellant for greater range. Future launcher vehicles may go the Klub missile route, where a normal looking semi-truck with a container actually is secretly housing 8-10 Kornet-EM launchers with 8 missiles each with anywhere from 64, 80 or more missiles where the sides of the container have automatically controlled retractable curtains and or folding sides, and the passenger seat acts as the command guidance control center with drop down displays and lap tops attached to the ceiling of the driving compartment of the semi-truck.

How do we know this is Kornet ATGM? Does Hamas have them? Distance to the tank doesn't seem to be long, maybe it is around 1 km away, so the ATGM could as well be slower and older type as Konkurs / Fagot, TOW. Milan or similar. Trophy should work well against them. Kornet is faster, but could work well against them too (depend how far radar detect incoming missile and on reaction time).

Damn, I cant wait for the Kornet-EM to fully enter service does anybody have the date for the Korent-EMs to enter service?

Kornet-EM fires two missiles within split seconds of each other which is way too fast for Trophy system to react

Launching two missiles in rapid succession to defeat APS is almost stupid easy.

Austin wrote:Reportedly the first interception video of Kornet ATGM by Israel new APS

How do you know that there was an interception?

Nice   

Russian General Staff: bullying in the Russian army has virtually disappeared

Zivo wrote:

Kornet-EM fires two missiles within split seconds of each other which is way too fast for Trophy system to react

Launching two missiles in rapid succession to defeat APS is almost stupid easy.

Or launching good old fashioned ATGM's in tandem with Your friend..

Russia to Present Unique Communications System at High-Tech Exhibition

MOSCOW, August 1 (RIA Novosti) - Russian high-tech corporation Rostec has created a unique sixth-generation radio communication system called Chance, which it will present at the Russian Defense Ministry’s Innovation Day, the company’s press-service said in a statement on Friday.

According to the Rostec statement, the Chance communication system is part of the army’s automated communication and control systems. Chance was built, using software-defined radio technology, and can create a self-organizing, auto-restorable network with almost no involvement of an operator.

The communications system has received factory approval and in the near future is to be tested by troops.

The Chance system enables transmission of all types of messages, digital data and video information. Each operator has access to the Internet and the GLONASS and/or GPS navigation systems. The network’s radio stations are also able to eliminate noise interference.

The system consists of portable radio communication stations that can be installed in military vehicles to pass information from one operator to another.

According to the press statement, even if one radio station is destroyed, its data will be automatically picked up and saved by neighboring stations.

The Innovation Day international exhibition, organized by the Russian Defense Ministry, is to take place on August 4 - 5 near Moscow.

Russia develops new mine-clearing systems

The standard BMR-3M armoured de-mining vehicle is based on a modified T-72 MBT hull. The standard KMT-7 roller type mine clearing system is on the front of the hull with the pole-type EMT device above and track wide mine clearing blade to the rear. Source: Christopher F Foss

Russia's Stankomash has completed development of the engineering tank mine-sweeping system TMS-S.

The TMS-S is mounted on the front of Russian BMR-3M armoured demining vehicles, recognisable by their raised rear roofline, providing space for the two crew and three combat engineers.

Latest Russian TMS-S mine clearing system installed on the front of the BMR-3M armoured deminer, showing the mine clearing rollers, two pole-type electromagnetic devices and the explosive reactive armour over the frontal arc. (Stankomash)Latest Russian TMS-S mine clearing system installed on the front of the BMR-3M armoured deminer, showing the mine clearing rollers, two pole-type electromagnetic devices and the explosive reactive armour over the frontal arc. (Stankomash)

The system features eight mine-clearing rollers installed on hinged arms, which cover the full width of the vehicle. A blade is mounted on either side to cut through command detonation wires.

Mounted above the rollers are two pole-type electro-magnetic attachments and a mine 'trawl' (known locally as a UTPBM), which is claimed to be able to neutralise mines activated by the acoustic, thermal and seismic signatures of the vehicle.

The combat training center has been canceled...look how many sacrifices, capitulations Russia has made, guys like Gorbachev and Yeltsin are looking like jackasses thinking that the powerful entity they destroyed (USSR) and ruined was worth it just to have pitiful and mediocre relations with the West! Yeltsin should have gotten the guillotine, and Gorbachev should still get it...the Cold War never ended, but just had a pause in events, and Russia is significantly worse off:

Rheinmetall deal with Russia: Gabriel's veto was matched with Chancellor

Economy Minister Gabriel has defended his veto against a 100 million-euro arms deal with Russia by Rheinmetall. He had for the backing of the Chancellor.

Berlin - Economy Minister Sigmar Gabriel (SPD) has in his own words the full backing of Prime Minister Angela Merkel (CDU) for the stop of the delivery of a combat training center in Russia. The decision was consistent with the Chancellor's Office, Gabriel said in Berlin on Monday.

For possible damages from the company Rheinmetall he did not comment. Currently, stood to his knowledge, no other projects where a delivery stop is also to be expected. Without naming details, he said there had already been other projects that have been withdrawn for export licenses.
Gabriel had the authorization given by the black and yellow previous government permission for the construction of a combat training center in March in response stopped the Crimean crisis provisionally .

Background of revocation members are now imposed by the EU sanctions against Russia for the escalation of the Ukraine crisis. Germany thus goes beyond the EU sanctions beyond. This provides, among other things, a moratorium on arms sales, already agreed transactions, however, are to be excluded from.

Actually Rheinmetall wanted to pass the-art combat training facility this year in the town of Mulino in the east of Moscow in the Russian army. In such an exercise centers each year, up to 30,000 soldiers are trained to simulation tools. The business has a magnitude of about one hundred million euros.

A Rheinmetall spokesman said on Monday: "We are in discussion with the federal government on this issue." An oral completion in March revocation of the government has already reached also in writing. Rheinmetall boss Armin Papperger had seen in March, no need to worry for his company. The Hundred-million contract was nearly executed and almost paid in full, he had said at the press conference.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/gabriel-und-rheinmetall-ruestungsveto-war-mit-kanzlerin-abgestimmt-a-984342.html

magnumcromagnon wrote:The combat training center has been canceled...look how many sacrifices, capitulations Russia has made, guys like Gorbachev and Yeltsin are looking like jackasses thinking that the powerful entity they destroyed (USSR) and ruined was worth it just to have pitiful and mediocre relations with the West! Yeltsin should have gotten the guillotine, and Gorbachev should still get it...the Cold War never ended, but just had a pause in events, and Russia is significantly worse off:

The better question is not if or when cold war has ended, but when it actually started.
Because it sure as hell ain't 1946  

From Milex: Belarus take on the Kornet-EM system, using their Shershen ATGM (with 5 km range) and applying it to a Tigr "Beast of Crimea" truck, pretty cool but surprisingly still a downgrade compared to them Kornet-EM version (for obvious reasons):



http://englishrussia.com/2014/07/10/milex-2014-exhibition-of-arms-and-military-machinery/

sepheronx wrote:http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/743724

Seems Rheinmetal now lost out on 120M Euros. Transaz will build the training simulator site

Without a doubt some of the most laughably ineffective sanctions I've ever witnessed.    Good for Tranzas.

(btw Sepheronx, haven't seen you posting over on MP.net. You get banned?)

sepheronx wrote:Got suspended due to insulting someone because of their double standards and misreading what I said in the Ukrainian thread. I stopped altogether going there as the anti anything Russian was disgusting. Im OK with criticism of any country, but they go to lengths that they think they speak truth but go as far as being racist.

...It's a Neo-Con fear-mongering website, what do you expect? Neo-Con's are irrational solipsists by nature, the outside world doesn't exist outside their mind...or their mother's basements.  

Take for example their patently absurd support for Israel against Hamas, they can't seem to reconcile with the fact that the Israel Defense Force created Hamas, even if it comes from the mouths of former leaders of the IDF, even if it comes from a famous newspaper that comes from the Neo-Con sphere of influence (Wallstreet Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch, and before he bought the newspaper the Wallstreet Journal militantly supported the WMD's in Iraq theory and the consequent invasion):

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB123275572295011847

Another example is their patently absurd support for the Iraq war and Afghanistan war, even though the respective govt's put in power such as Maliki's and Karzai's govt's were not only Pro-Russian and Pro-Putin, they were also Pro-Iranian, and not only just that but Karzai is on record saying he would side with Pakistan against the United States if they would ever go to war with each other  :

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/24/world/asia/karzai-says-afghanistan-would-back-pakistan-in-a-conflict-with-us.html?_r=0

...   Ooops we spent trillions of Dollars to put pro-Iranian govt's in power, when we declared Iran as our enemy   ...

These things could come in handy in Russian Artic brigades

Russia's Defense Ministry plans to buy a large consignment of tractors "GAZ-3344-20"

Engineering Technologies exhibition is starting tomorrow.
It is also known as MAKS for TANKS.
Possibly there will be some novelties revealed.

http://www.oboronexpo.ru/