Russian arms sales to Middle East & North Africa

Vladimir79 wrote:Why not? we already lost $4 billion in Libya.

And lost another $4-6 billion in Iran. It seems we are just happy to
give up our weapon sales to appease French and American invasion plans.

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GarryB wrote:And lost 12 billion in Iraq in weapons and oil deals...

And lost another $4-6 billion in Iran. It seems we are just happy to give up our weapon sales to appease French and American invasion plans.

Given this situation, it seems that Russia’s arms exporters will have to focus primarily on Asia and Latin America in the foreseeable future.

Palestinian wrote:I heard Russia was going to supply Lebanon with some fighter jets a while ago. Any updates on that?

Lebanon asked for Mi-24s instead, and last I heard Russia agreed.

GarryB wrote:They already have Mig-29s, AFAIK the order was for about 12 new upgraded Migs and the upgrade of the rest of the existing fleet.

They already have Mi-24s as well and the change to helicopters presumably included a small batch of new helos and existing helos upgraded too.

You are mixing Syria with Lebanon Garry

George1 wrote:Iraq could be a potential customer of MiG-35

Russia might offer non-nuclear submarine to Morocco

ST.PETERSBURG, July 4 (Itar-Tass) - The Russian arms export/import agency Rosoboronexport has been promoting its non-nuclear submarine, the Amur 1650, on world markets. It intends to offer the submarine to Morocco if the tenders are held there, Rosoboronexport Deputy chief Viktor Komardin declared at an international naval show on Thursday.

If Morocco announces the tenders for a submarine we will take part and offer the Amur 1650, Komardin said.
Rosoboronexport intends to develop military cooperation with Morocco, Komardin said. He stressed the significance of an agreement on international economic cooperation that Russia had recently signed with Morocco. Recently, Russia has delivered to Morocco a batch of Msta-S self-propelled howitzers, he said.

Morocco is showing an active interest in weapons for air defense and ground troops, Komardin said. It is for Morocco to make a choice now, he added. Komardin highly appreciates the level of professional training of Morocco's officers who have recently attended a presentation show of Russian-made weapons.
The Amur 1650 submarine was designed by the Rubin Naval Design Bureau based in St.Petersburg which belongs to the United Shipbuilding Corporation.

The maximum diving range of the submarine is 300 meters. The submarine is capable to carry 18 missiles, torpedoes or mines.
Earlier, a number of media outlets said that Morocco intended to buy its first submarine. Russia and Germany were mentioned as possible exporters.

GarryB wrote:Also interesting that they are selling Kornet-E rather than the new Kornet-EM.

sheytanelkebir wrote:The Iraqi defence minister also met with rosoboronexport reps in Dubai.

AFAIK the French for example never had a "look" at any Iraqi MiG25s or SU24s in Iraq during the 1980s, when they were assisting with Mirages for example...

similarly Iraqis won't let Russians working on Iraqi Mi28/MiG35s to snoop around any Apaches/F16IQ they buy, and vice versa. This is relatively easy to do by having completely separate units/bases/depots for the "eastern" and "western" weapons, a standard operational procedure they've had for 40 years, keeping the different suppliers/types segregated. My uncle was an engineer in Nu'maniya during the 1980s in the "western" field factory for artillery and armour. They had French, South Africans, British etc... there was never a russian person there ever. and it was the "opposite" in Taji for example.

Most of the technology compromised due to Iraq in the past was the MiG21 flown to israel by a defector in 1966, one SU24 taken in 2003 and the various eastern european countries selling the allies data about Iraq's russian weapons to the allies during 1990 before the gulf war. In terms of electronics, the Iraqis already will have access to quite a bit of modern western radar/thermals/telco equipment, so russia has to be "competitive" with whatever the Iraqis are buying already.

flamming_python wrote:The only real reason the US is ahead right now is because of its client states and allies in Europe (particularly Eastern Europe), East & South-East Asia, the Arabian Gulf and the British Commonwealth who always buy from it.

Otherwise Russia would be powering through all the way:mg: