Russian arms sales to Middle East & North Africa

Well that's a pretty big stake, and Russia also sell to it's allies what's wrong with that?

It is different, though Russia is learning now too.

Soft low interest loans to countries that are then used to buy weapons is the key, though the US takes it one step further and calls it "aide".

It is pretty much the same thing... except with the Russian model the Russian taxpayer lends the country in question some money at a very low interest rate which is then spent on Russian exports to that country... the difference is that eventually the country in question will pay back the Russian taxpayer.

Another difference is that Russia doesn't pretend to be some wonderful force for good helping its allies with "aide", that is in actual fact just a subsidy of the US military industrial complex.

Of course if Iraq actually want to use this equipment in service there would be the issue of the US developing effective counters to the Russian gear and then either directly using it against Iraq or handing it to Israel.

Kinda like India spending billions on a 5th gen fighter and then handing the information to China who then sells it or hands it over to Pakistan...

If they pay their money they will get export models of this equipment, and it will be in the terms and conditions that they don't share secret information.

Whether they are successful at that or not is another question... but if you want to keep something secret... don't sell it to anyone... even your own forces... super secret.   

TR1 wrote:

George1 wrote:Iraq could be a potential customer of MiG-35

That would be very bizarre and entertaining.

Don't rule it out. Iraqs government is not pro-western. The US has to treat it like an ally but that is something that will break.

http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/143978-qahwaji-to-russia-to-diversify-army-weapon-sources

Army chief General Jean Qahwaji is scheduled to travel to Russia soon to discuss ways that Moscow can provide the Lebanese army with military aid, news reports said on Wednesday.

Qahwaji aims to diversify the sources of military weapons provided to Lebanon within the $500 million quota allocated to the army and as part of the one billion Saudi grant in that regard, As Safir daily reported.

Former Premier and head of al-Mustaqbal Movement MP Saad Hariri announced on August 6 that Saudi Arabia will grant Lebanon one billion dollars to the military institution to “combat terrorism.”

Media information said that $500 million of the grant will be given in cash to the Lebanese army to get the weapons and ammunition needed.

Qahwaji had reiterated to his visitors that Hariri told him to “find the best suitable contract for the military institution, and we will be right behind you,” according to As Safir Wednesday.

It also revealed that the army chief will visit Russia soon after he held several contacts with the Russian Ambassador Alexander Zasypkin in Beirut to sign the arms deal with the leadership of the Russian army.

Qahwaji is expected to visit several western and eastern capitals to purchase the weapons, added the daily, pointing that the U.S. has put its weapons warehouses in Cyprus under the disposal of the Lebanese army since the latest incidents that flared in the northeastern border town of Arsal.

Hariri, who made a surprise visit to Lebanon at the beginning of August after three years abroad, had left back to Jeddah a few days afterwards to “hold discussions with Saudi leaders on the aid granted to the Lebanese army.”

In December 2013 Saudi Arabia had granted three billion dollars for the purchase of arms from France for the benefit of the Lebanese army.

Not about India, but there is nowhere else to put this...

Russia to supply military equipment to Tunisia

The Russian government has also agreed in principle to provide a 500 million U.S. dollar loan to Tunisia

TUNIS, September 05 /ITAR-TASS/. Russia will supply military equipment to Tunisia as part of security assistance efforts, Tunisian Foreign Minister Mongi Hamdi said on Thursday.

The supplies will include bullet-proof vests and night-vision devices, he told the Express FM radio.
The Russian government has also agreed in principle to provide a 500 million U.S. dollar loan to Tunisia.
Hamdi, who arrived in Moscow on September 2 on a working visit, has held talks with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. The discussion focused on the situation in the Middle East and North Africa.
The ministers also reviewed the implementation of the agreements reached at the 5th session of the Russian-Tunisian inter-governmental commission on trade, economic, scientific and technological cooperation, which was held in Tunis in May of this year.

 - This could be very big, as Tunisia has never bought Russian weapons before!

Fixed...

Thank you to both! 

http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/748207

I predicted this! Time to go buy a few lottery tickets...

Nice  

Moroccan king set to seal submarine deal during Moscow visit

Would that be the first exported Amur sub?

Amur or Kilo it ok
I like the deal

Viktor wrote:Nice  

Moroccan king set to seal submarine deal during Moscow visit

Hi friends, for Morocco navy subs, friend Russian source, no contract with Morocco.

Black-Swan wrote:

Viktor wrote:Nice  

Moroccan king set to seal submarine deal during Moscow visit

Hi friends, for Morocco navy subs, friend Russian source, no contract with Morocco.

Your Russian friend is named Putin right?

Hachimoto wrote:

Black-Swan wrote:

Viktor wrote:Nice  

Moroccan king set to seal submarine deal during Moscow visit

Hi friends, for Morocco navy subs, friend Russian source, no contract with Morocco.

Your Russian friend is named Putin right?

Very funny, no my russian friend work in shipyard Severnaya Verf, St-Pertersbourg.
I am not jealous because Morocan Navy buy russian submarine, I give just a information for the forum, sorry.

The Moroccan press (which is far from being reliable) has been talking about a submarine procurement for years now. One year it is a type 209, the next one it is an Amur 1650 and so on. Yet there are several problems concerning this acquisition. The first is the budget; then the submarine itself.

Atakor wrote:The Moroccan press (which is far from being reliable) has been talking about a submarine procurement for years now. One year it is a type 209, the next one it is an Amur 1650 and so on. Yet there are several problems concerning this acquisition. The first is the budget; then the submarine itself.

Saudis can finance this purchase, Morocco has the support of American and european.
It is true that Algeria will soon be six submarine so I think American and nato want rebalance power balance. I think the Moroccans want to buy submarines, but that the russian ? I think that the market would not be good for Algeria, for Russia too. In any case it is certain Algerians would be disappointed by this deal between a friend and an enemy.

Black-Swan wrote:

Atakor wrote:The Moroccan press (which is far from being reliable) has been talking about a submarine procurement for years now. One year it is a type 209, the next one it is an Amur 1650 and so on. Yet there are several problems concerning this acquisition. The first is the budget; then the submarine itself.

Saudis can finance this purchase, Morocco has the support of American and european.
It is true that Algeria will soon be six submarine so I think American and nato want rebalance power balance. I think the Moroccans want to buy submarines, but that the russian ? I think that the market would not be good for Algeria, for Russia too. In any case it is certain Algerians would be disappointed by this deal between a friend and an enemy.

An ennemy ? what ennemy are you refering ? didn't get enough from loosing each war since 60's ? just get your men trained and control your own country before looking outside. take it as an advice.

The first rule in any respectable forum is not to bring news such as ' a friend of my sister told the nephew of my oncle ....' otherwise it will be turned to a trashy blog.

sorry mod [/endOT]

Hachimoto wrote:...control your own country before looking outside. take it as an advice...

Perhaps you should also follow your own advice friend. Last i know Morrocco is a royal dictatorship under the US boot and supporting jihadist scumbags throughout the Middle East and Africa alongside the filthy KSA, GCC etc.

Morocco, Myanmar to Buy Some 60 Russian BMP-3 Infantry Fighting Vehicles

http://sputniknews.com/military/20150911/1026867729.html

George1 wrote:Which country? Maybe Syria??

Russian T-90MS tank completes test cycle in Arab country — manufacturer

Could be Pakistan, given that they were to test a T-90MS. Probably would have heard about it though.