e latest intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) DF-41. The ICBM is equipped with a separable warhead, which includes 10 to 12 individual guidance nuclear blocks. According to various estimates, the maximum flight range of the DF-41 is about 14 thousand km, which makes it one of the most long-range ballistic missiles in the world. Enlarge this image Click to see fullsize PLA Rocket Force (Nuclear weapons): News - Page 3 Df-4110 wrote:
These are much better parameters than the RS-24. Amazing that China has created a better solid fuel ICBM than Russia.
These are much better parameters than the RS-24. Amazing that China has created a better solid fuel ICBM than Russia.
Indeed. China has surpassed the declining and withering NATO in developing cutting edge missile technologies. Now China has cemented its capability to obliterate American cities in the event of American aggression in China’s sphere of interests. These are interesting times.
China has developed heavy ICBM for solid fuel . Capable of transporting 10MIRV over a distance of 14,000km. This is a great success. Yars has much worse parameters, and Sarmat has been using liquid fuel, and for two years it has not even started flight tests, except for starting from a silo.
The 14k km range means one thing : they still can't make good SSBN and don't trust the ones they have so they need a longer range ground based one to patrol larger parts in China.
More warheads means they have less power for eah one and contrary to what you may think a small nuk won't destroy a city.
Arrow wrote:China has developed heavy ICBM for solid fuel . Capable of transporting 10MIRV over a distance of 14,000km. This is a great success.
Has China ever shared concrete proof to suggest that this missile was successfully tested not once but several times ? Basically this is just one of their claims. Zero concrete evidence that these claims are true.
There is also the aspect of what it delivers... standard reentry vehicles can be intercepted by ABM systems... in fact an S-500 system located near the Chinese border could probably shoot down this missile before the warheads and decoys even separate.
In comparison the Russian missile can deliver warheads that can't be intercepted...
GarryB wrote:There is also the aspect of what it delivers... standard reentry vehicles can be intercepted by ABM systems... in fact an S-500 system located near the Chinese border could probably shoot down this missile before the warheads and decoys even separate.
In comparison the Russian missile can deliver warheads that can't be intercepted...
This is interesting. Putin has for the first time publicly confirmed that Russia is helping China to build its early-warning system for detection of missile attack, a critical part of modern nuclear deterrent.
Which would make China no longer and easy target... I think the US plan was to develop IRBMs that they could use to take out Chinas nuclear capability in about 10 minutes and likely undetected, and therefore take out its ability to directly respond in kind.
With a working warning system China will see an attack coming so the incoming intermediate range ballistic missiles or depressed trajectory SLBMs will hit empty silos as the Chinese should have enough warning of the scale and scope of the attack to launch their own attack before their ability to launch their weapons is taken away.
A nice kick in the balls for the US.
Also a huge confidence boost for China because they should now be much less vulnerable to a sneak attack from anyone... which should improve stability and reduce tensions.
Good for China and good for Russia... not so good for the people in the US like Bolton and Pompeo who think an attack is good diplomacy... but screw them anyway.
GarryB wrote:Which would make China no longer and easy target... I think the US plan was to develop IRBMs that they could use to take out Chinas nuclear capability in about 10 minutes and likely undetected, and therefore take out its ability to directly respond in kind.
In the process Russia is also compromising its own early warning systems enabling China to develop missiles that can evade Russian early warning systems.
Thereafter, China will simply reverse engineer this tech and export it to several countries.
What makes you think the system they are selling China is anything like the one Russia currently uses?
They could be selling an ancient setup they used in the 1980s but with modern components for all we know... which is going to be much much better than nothing which they have now.
But more importantly it is Russia that will have intimate knowledge of the Chinese defence system... the Chinese will learn about how the system Russia builds for them works but wont have any idea of what Russia has or how it works, so if you are going to be mr negative, it would actually prevent a sneak US attack (which benefits China) but would make a Russian attack easier because they know the system... which means nothing to Russia or China because why would Russia attack China?
China almost certainly will reverse engineer the technology... why wouldn't they?
Do you think Russia will ignore the plans for the Mistral ships they bought?
If they are making a new helicopter carrier then why not incorporate parts of that design to make something that suits them but is of a proven operational design...
The Chinese Type 56S which I had to hand back in to police was a copy of a Soviet AKM, but they changed the design... instead of a small hammer delay mechanism in front of the trigger group like they have on the Soviet AKM, the Chinese just put an extended piece of metal above the bolt that blocked the hammer from hitting the firing pin until the bolt carrier was fully forward in place. The Soviet solution prevented the hammer from hitting the firing pin until the bolt was locked to the chamber and the bolt carrier was fully forward... the Chinese solution did the same thing but just required an extra small triangle of metal be added to the rear of the bolt carrier instead of an interrupter arm and spring ahead of the trigger group.
Tsavo Lion wrote:China Hit Target Ship With 'Aircraft-Carrier Killer' Missiles
They should release some pictures of them hitting it.
Here i come!!!
An interesting report on the exercises of the PLA Missile Forces missile brigade with salvo launches of DF-21D medium-range anti-ship ballistic missiles.
The DF-21D is a two-stage solid-propellant ballistic anti-ship missile that entered service with the People's Liberation Army of China in 2015. Its estimated flight range is about 1.5 thousand km, which, when deployed in Guangdong province, gives it the ability to hit targets both in the Taiwan Strait and in the northern part of the South China Sea. Earlier, the Hong Kong edition of the South China Morning Post reported that at a scientific conference held in October 2020, organized by the National Development and Reform Commission of the People's Republic of China, a professor at the Beijing University of Aviation and Astronautics - Beihang University and one of the authors of the book "Unlimited War: Chinese Master Plan to Destroy America" Wang Xiangsui revealed some details of the exercises of the PLA Missile Forces on delivering a massive missile strike on the US Navy aircraft carrier group, which took place at the end of August 2020. According to a Chinese military expert, on August 26, 2020, a DF-21D ballistic anti-ship missile with a maximum range of 1,500 km from Zhejiang province and a DF-26B ballistic missile with a maximum range of 4,000 km from Qinghai province were launched at a moving target ship in the Paracel Islands region in South China Sea. The target was successfully hit. According to a Chinese military expert, on August 26, 2020, a DF-21D ballistic anti-ship missile with a maximum range of 1,500 km from Zhejiang province and a DF-26B ballistic missile with a maximum range of 4,000 km from Qinghai province were launched at a moving target ship in the Paracel Islands region in South China Sea. The target was successfully hit. According to a Chinese military expert, on August 26, 2020, a DF-21D ballistic anti-ship missile with a maximum range of 1,500 km from Zhejiang province and a DF-26B ballistic missile with a maximum range of 4,000 km from Qinghai province were launched at a moving target ship in the Paracel Islands region in South China Sea. The target was successfully hit.
For the first time on television, the PRC demonstrated the deployment of Chinese strategic missile systems with DF-31AG ICBMs. The DF-31AG is an upgraded version of the DF-31A ICBM (also shown in the report), which received a MIRV with several IN units. The range of a solid-propellant three-stage rocket exceeds 11,000 kilometers. KVO DF-31AG - about 150 meters. In terms of its capabilities, the missile is considered one of the most powerful in the arsenal of modern China, second only to the DF-41.
SCOOP – #China has stunned US intelligence and military officials by testing a #nuclear capable #hypersonic missile that traveled through low orbit in space, making a full circle around the globe before speeding towards its target. https://t.co/xBB8cSWQD0
I am pretty sure both Russia and US has also tested their weapons through space. Avangard and X-whatever. Both in space.
China is catching up a bit. But it really isn't hard to create a system that can fly through space in extreme speeds since, you know, lack of friction. But proof that China has the capabilities.
The title of that piece is like some sort of joke. All such missiles (ICBMs) are hypersonic. The news here is that it has such a long range like the Sarmat. The warhead delivery is within the range of what you would expect from an ICBM system.
Hypersonic missiles have a much narrower meaning and that is atmospheric missiles that do not go above 50 km during their trajectory. Their range is also relatively short because they expend their energy overcoming air friction and are not designed to be massive like ICBMs.
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