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    Post  dino00 Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:10 am

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    dino00 wrote:The cost of creating two icebreakers of the project 22220 will be about 100 billion rubles

    Earlier it was reported that the contract for the construction of the fourth and fifth icebreakers could be concluded with the Baltic plant in the first quarter of 2019

    SAINT-PETERSBURG, December 5th. / TASS /. The construction of the fourth and fifth nuclear icebreakers of the project 22220 will cost about 100 billion rubles. Alexey Smirnov, Project Manager 22220 at the Baltic Shipyard, told this to journalists on the sidelines of the Arctic: Present and Future Forum.

    Earlier, a TASS source in industrial circles of St. Petersburg announced that a contract for the construction of the fourth and fifth icebreakers 22220 could be concluded with the Baltic Shipyard in the first quarter of 2019. Later, the deputy head of the Directorate of the Northern Sea Route, Maxim Kulinko, stated that the construction of these vessels would use a mixed financing scheme.

    "The cost of construction for two vessels combined in the amount of about 100 billion rubles, which includes both the cost of construction and indirect costs ... ensuring guarantees of contract execution, including insurance of the vessel during construction," said Smirnov. He noted that the contract provides funding for the contracting of equipment for both vessels at once, which will help reduce the cost of the order.

    https://tass.ru/ekonomika/5876084

    The two icebreaker cost as much as a nimitz carrier.

    Suspect your values are way wrong
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:51 am

    Singular_Transform wrote:The two icebreaker cost as much as a nimitz carrier.

    And are way more profitable
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:13 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Singular_Transform wrote:The two icebreaker cost as much as a nimitz carrier.

    And are way more profitable

    That's beside the point. They definitely do not cost $4 billion a piece.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:18 am

    Due to the use of variable draft, the icebreakers of this project are able to work equally effectively both in deep water and in shallow water in the beds of Siberian rivers. This feature allows these icebreakers to replace both icebreakers of the " Arctic " type and the " Taimyr " type and, therefore, to reduce the total cost of operating the atomic icebreaking fleet, while fully retaining all its capabilities.
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    Post  Singular_Transform Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:20 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Singular_Transform wrote:The two icebreaker cost as much as a nimitz carrier.

    And are way more profitable

    That's beside the point. They definitely do not cost $4 billion a piece.

    The two icebreaker cost as much su34 as many f18 can be bought from the price of a nimitz.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:47 pm


    Just a photo of Akademik Fedorov in Antarctica:

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:20 pm


    Icebreaker Evpatiy Kolovrat has been laid down In St. Petersburg

    Replacement for yet another one-off fiasco class Iliya Muromets... No

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/115071/

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    Post  George1 Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:10 am

    New icebreaker Andrey Vilkitsky departs from St. Petersburg heading for Ob Bay


    The vessel is almost 122 meters long and 26 meters wide


    ST. PETERSBURG, December 20. /TASS/. An official presentation of the Andrey Vilkitsky, an icebreaker built for Gazprom Neft’s Novoportovskoye deposit, was organized in downtown St. Petersburg, a TASS correspondent on board the icebreaker reported on Thursday.

    "The icebreaker will arrive [to the destination] in late January already," Gazprom Neft’s representative Denis Sugaipov said during the official ceremony. "After the ceremony, it will depart and along the Northern Sea Route will come directly to the Ob Bay."

    The Andrei Vilkitsky icebreaker was built at the Vyborg Shipyard. It is Finland’s project IBSV01. Another icebreaker, the Alexander Sannikov, which was ready in summer, 2018, is also made under the Time of Arctic program. The icebreakers have similar specifications and they are most mighty icebreakers in their class in Russia. They will work in the Ob Bay, assisting in development of the Novoportovskoye deposit.

    According to the client’s representatives, the icebreaker’s main features are the big capacity of 22MW and high maneuvering ability due to used Azipods (a gearless steerable propulsion system, which moves the icebreaker, at the same giving it the necessary direction). "The icebreaker’s maneuvering ability is very high as it has three Azipods, and besides an adjusting device, which allows the pilot to give precise positions, which will be kept despite of ice, wind or wave," the icebreaker’s Captain Yuri Akhromkin said. "Thus, the icebreaker can practically turn around and make various maneuvers."

    The icebreaker may be used to escort vessels, to be a supply vessel for oil platforms in the Arctic. It may be used in overcoming oil spills, in extinguishing fires at other sea facilities and as a search vessel.

    The vessel is almost 122 meters long and 26 meters wide. The Andrey Vilkitsky can break two-meter-thick ice at the speed of about two knots. The icebreaker is ecology-focused - all the waste is kept on board for further processing ashore.


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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:43 pm


    Andrey Vilkitsky passing Arktika in St. Pete:
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    And Viktor Chernomirdin:
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:51 pm


    Arktika has been relocated:

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    Post  Hole Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:40 am

    ITS ALIVE! cheers
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:42 pm

    Hole wrote:ITS ALIVE! cheers

    Not yet, just relocated for final phase of construction but it's getting there.

    I'm still not sold on paintjob though but I guess we'll have to wait until we see it against white backdrop.
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    Post  dino00 Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:48 am

    Nuclear icebreaker "Ural" plan to launch in May

    S.-PETERSBURG, Mar 15 - RIA Novosti. The universal nuclear icebreaker "Ural" of the project 22220 is planned to be launched in May 2019, according to the message of JSC "Baltic Plant" (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation).
    To date, the experts of the Baltic plant have loaded the last bow section of the tank deck (section 1801) onto the icebreaker Ural, completing the formation of the entire hull of the nuclear-powered icebreaker.

    Now the shipbuilders will have to work on the formation of the superstructure and carry out a set of works on the preparation for the solemn launch of the water order in May 2019," the report said.

    Three new universal nuclear-powered icebreakers of the project 22220 are under construction at the Baltiysky Plant in St. Petersburg at the request of Rosatom: the head icebreaker Arktika and the first production icebreaker Siberia are launched. The commissioning of these icebreakers was originally planned for 2017, 2019 and 2020, respectively, but then these dates were repeatedly postponed. Among the reasons for this were problems with the supply of turbine equipment for icebreaker propulsion systems. At present, the customer has been designated 2019, Siberia, 2020, and Ural, 2021, as the date of delivery for the Arctic.

    Universal nuclear icebreakers of the project 22220 with a capacity of 60 MW will be the largest and most powerful in the world compared to the existing nuclear powered ships. They are needed to ensure Russian leadership in the Arctic. The length of the vessel will be 173.3 meters, width - 34 meters, displacement - 33.5 thousand tons. These icebreakers will be able to conduct caravans of ships in arctic conditions, breaking through ice up to 3 meters thick. They will provide ships with hydrocarbon feedstock from the fields of the Yamal and Gydan peninsulas and from the Kara Sea shelf to the markets of the Asia-Pacific region. Earlier it was reported that two more nuclear icebreakers of the project 22220 would be built at the Baltic Shipyard.

    https://ria.ru/20190315/1551822420.html
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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:21 am

    PapaDragon wrote:I'm still not sold on paintjob though but I guess we'll have to wait until we see it against white backdrop.

    Same. I say paint it red... That will get the seppos a-clucking...
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    Post  kvs Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:02 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:I'm still not sold on paintjob though but I guess we'll have to wait until we see it against white backdrop.

    Same.  I say paint it red...  That will get the seppos a-clucking...

    The colour scheme is perfect for making it invisible on the horizon. Ice scatters blue light preferentially (that is why icbergs calving from glaciers can appear blue).
    Real stealth, not fanboi angle fetish stealth Smile

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    Post  GarryB Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:34 am

    In a snow storm it will be the lights that matter, but having distinct colours and solid colours rather than patchy colour patterns is what is important.

    For people working on board you don't want to dazzle them with the light reflecting off its surface on sunny days...
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    Post  George1 Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:57 pm

    Baltic Shipyard formed the hull of the mighty "Ural"

    "Ural" is the third nuclear-powered icebreaker of Lk-60Ya class together with the sister ships "Arktika" and "Sibir" she is being built by the Baltic Shipyard, Saint Petersburg.

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    Post  George1 Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:25 pm

    Nuclear-powered icebreaker "Arktika" lead vessel of LK-60Ya series. 28 March 2019, Saint Petersburg

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:27 am


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    Post  The-thing-next-door Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:17 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:

    Same.  I say paint it red...  That will get the seppos a-clucking...

    Red and gold with a large star on the bow deck and 2 on the sides of the bridge.

    Also don't forget the Pantsirs.
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    Post  dino00 Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:18 pm

    In Russia, by 2035 there will be 13 heavy icebreakers - Putin

    St. Petersburg. April 9th. INTERFAX - Russia's Arctic fleet by 2035 will have at least 13 heavy icebreakers, including nine nuclear ones, said Russian President Vladimir Putin at a plenary session of the Arctic Forum on Tuesday.
    "Three new nuclear icebreakers are currently being built in St. Petersburg: the Arctic, Siberia and the Urals. By the year 2035, Russia's Arctic fleet will consist of at least 13 heavy linear icebreakers, including nine nuclear ones," the president said.

    https://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=505774&lang=RU
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    Post  George1 Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:22 am

    Russia to complete building Arktika icebreaker in 2020


    The investments in the icebreaker's construction will total $572 million

    MOSCOW, April 26. /TASS/. The construction of the Arktika universal nuclear-powered lead icebreaker will be completed in 2020, according to a government resolution posted on the government’s legal information web portal on Friday.

    The government resolution’s previous version indicated that the icebreaker would be built in 2019. The investment in the Arktika icebreaker project has remained unchanged at about 37 billion rubles ($572 million).

    Russia plans to build the serial-produced nuclear-powered icebreaker Sibir by 2021 and the icebreaker Ural by 2022. The investments in the icebreakers’ construction will total about 41 billion rubles ($634 million) and 42 billion rubles ($649 million), respectively, the document says.

    Three Project 22220 universal nuclear-powered icebreakers Arktika, Sibir and Ural are currently under construction at the Baltiysky Shipyard. The icebreakers will operate new-generation nuclear reactors. Overall, the concept of the nuclear-powered icebreaker fleet development worked out by Russia’s civilian nuclear power corporation Rosatom envisages building five Project 22220 serial-produced icebreakers. The fourth serial-produced icebreaker will go into operation in 2024 and the fifth in 2027.


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    Post  Arrow Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:43 am

    What about Leader project?
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    Post  kvs Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:13 pm

    Arrow wrote:What about Leader project?

    Worry about the utter lack of any projects in the self-anointed masters of the universe land, the USA.

    The USA has big plans to cruise year round in Russia's EEZ showing Russia who is the boss. With their
    one functional ice breaker. LOL.

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