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    Post  andalusia Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:53 am

    Hole wrote:2 more gold medals today, until now.

    Russian blood and urine samples were tested in GB for a few years. They found nothing. Still russians won titles and medals.

    Back in 1984 the laboratory in Los Angeles handling the samples from american athletes burned to the ground. Ups. What a coincidence!

    In 2003 we had the bay area lab scandal. Hundreds of american athletes caught with their pants down. The next 4 years the americans were striped off more then a hundred medals. But it was treated as if any athlete alone as to blame for that. The country could still compete at games.

    Even in the 1988 games, Flo Jo was suspected of using steroids and I personally believe she did do it.  1984 Los Angeles Olympics at least thirty-four American athletes tested positive or had possible positive “doping” results but were allowed to compete.

    https://www.thefreelibrary.com/FLO-JO+DID+USE+DRUGS+TO+WIN%3b+Steroids+transformed+her+says+training...-a060559543

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1989-09-21-8901150081-story.html

    https://www.quora.com/Do-you-think-Florence-Griffith-Joyner-Flo-Jo-took-steroids-during-her-track-and-field-career




    This is an article about failed drug test:

    http://www.passyourdrugtest.com/04-18-2003-news.htm

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    Post  Firebird Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:27 pm

    GarryB wrote:Doesn't one of the Williams sisters actually take illegal drugs... they claim it is for Asthma or some shit, but she gets a special waive of the rules....

    I must say I celebrate every time I hear one of them gets knocked out of a tournament these days.

    I think Mr Williams has also regularly taken steroids for "injury and illness recovery". The old Therapeutic Use Exemption fraud. Which was only widely exposed with the Fancy Bears hack.
    Williams also refused to answer the door of her home to drug testers and pretended to be out.

    When you consider how they fraudulently banned Sharapova (and the whole Russian Olympic team) its clear WADA, USDA etc are rotten to the core.
    I'm acutally surprised Russia and China bother with Olympics these days.

    But it was funny to see Steroids Simone Biles and co thoroughly humiliated.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Aug 01, 2021 12:01 am


    This article from that meme is pretty on point:

    US frustrations prompt doping accusations at Russians

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/us-frustrations-prompt-doping-accusations-at-russians-20210730-p58ei9.html

    ...It will rankle Rylov that when Murphy broke world records in both the 100-metre and 200-metre backstroke events in Rio as part of a dominant American team, no one questioned whether the then, blisteringly fast, 21-year-old was clean.

    It is only now, when Murphy is 26 and unable to match his times from five years ago, and Team USA without Michael Phelps has not matched its lofty expectations in Tokyo, that Murphy has raised concerns about his Russian rival.

    Friday was the first time the US left the pool at the end of finals session without a gold medal....

    Like I said elsewhere Ryan is a little bitch Razz


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    Post  GarryB Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:41 am

    The irony is that they probably are using officially supplied drugs and masking agents and they are still losing to Russia.... hilarious...

    Ooops... did I just make an unsubstantiated accusation.... imagine doing that....

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    Post  Hole Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:55 pm

    Well, Murphy told the truth. The race wasn´t clean, an american and a brit took part. tongue

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    Post  Hole Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:34 am

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    Post  andalusia Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:41 am

    What good does a mentally-ill homosexual freak like this add to human civilization? It does not advance human knowledge. It says nothing good about females since this creature is not a female. Nor does it speak well of males either, unless showcasing mental-illness before the entire world boosts the esteem of males. Does it? And finally, what good is gained even if this freak lifts 800 pounds? Or a thousand? What does it prove? Brute muscular strength is largely obsolete, even in otherwise physically-strenuous jobs. No job anywhere requires men to lift 800 pounds. Or 500. And rarely over 200. So the one thing "distinguishing" this abomination is otherwise worthless to mankind. Would even a ponderous creature like this make a good soldier? Maybe two thousand years ago, when men battled with broadswords. But today he would be a lumbering clunk-head quickly taken out with enemy machine gun fire, his gelatinous guts spewed all over the battlefield. So whether this crazed homosexual wins a medal or not he does not merit any admiration whatsoever.




    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/transgender-olympian-weightlifter-knocked-out-competition-early

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:23 am

    andalusia wrote:What good does a mentally-ill homosexual...
    ......
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/transgender-olympian-weightlifter-knocked-out-competition-early


    FUUUCK!!!!

    I had money on this... cry


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    Post  Kiko Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:03 pm

    Americans were excluded from fair play at the Olympics, by Victoria Nikiforova for RIA NOVOSTI. 03.08.2021.

    The Russian Olympians showed truly Byzantine cunning in Tokyo. We arrived with a team that was cut down to the most I can't: ten athletes instead of the usual hundred — how is it at all? We have withstood the ninth wave of the propaganda haight. They perform in a neutral form without a flag and an anthem. They pass doping tests almost around the clock - look at the bullying of Sofia the Great, at least. And they manage to win at the same time.

    Tchaikovsky's first concert has already been quite firmly drilled into the subcortex of the audience. "Tram-tam-tam-tam!" - American swimmers and French sabre players shudder at night.

    Wait. That's not what we agreed on. According to the plan, the Russian athletes had to come and lose everything. According to the Western partners, they are all on doping. How so? But the success of the Russian national team became a living and clear proof that this whole story with "doping", substitution of tests and Rodchenkov's mustache was another delusional fake-like endless stories about "Novichok".

    And today hundreds and thousands of Western — primarily American-athletes are sitting on the needle, and massively and quite officially. Their excuse is quite simple, it is called "therapeutic exclusion". Evil tongues call it a "doping license".
    It is not difficult to get it at all. The athlete submits a doctor's certificate to his national anti-doping committee and gets the right to use prohibited substances without any problems.

    The range of chemicals is extremely wide. There are also medications for asthma, which are consumed on an industrial scale by Norwegian skiers. And anabolics, the use of which is constantly suspected of tennis players, the Williams sisters. And a variety of psychotropic substances, which, in all probability, are associated with the problems of American gymnast Simone Biles at the Tokyo Olympics.

    It is interesting that the issuance of such permits and their content are strictly secret. This is like the medical data of athletes, a personal, intimate thing. The reports of the national anti-doping committees are compiled in such a way that no one understands anything.

    Australian activists trying to really fight doping found out, for example, that in 2012 the country issued therapeutic exemptions for 37 potent drugs — from insulin to ritalin. However, no one knows exactly how many permits were issued for each drug and to whom.

    Only a few hacker hacks of the WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency) databases allowed us to make sure of the obvious: leading Western athletes were regularly poisoned with various chemicals in an attempt to bypass competitors.

    A hellish cocktail of morphine, vicodin, triamcinolone was found in the tests of the legendary British runner Mo Farah. No one, however, questioned his Olympic gold. There was no question of disqualification. The Queen of Great Britain knighted him, and Mo continued his sports career. He would have gone to Tokyo-if he had managed to qualify for the national team.

    Banned substances have been found in the doping tests of the Williams sisters and Simone Biles for several years. But all three athletes were allowed to compete and won everything they could.

    The scale of the problem scared even the Americans who are used to many things. A few years ago, the popular magazine USA Today tried to conduct an investigation, wrote a letter to WADA. Like, is it really that bad with the Williams sisters ' tests? Isn't it worth taking and publishing data on therapeutic exceptions? Let the public know what the legendary athletes are doing.

    The World Anti-Doping Organization did not respond to the request. No information was declassified. The journalists had to be content with the official statement of the American Anti-Doping Agency that the Williams sisters and Biles, who joined them, were not to blame for anything.

    Biles then explained that since childhood she has suffered from hyperactivity and attention deficit, and therefore WADA allows her to take ritalin. The whole world saw what this led to in Tokyo.

    Ritalin is a powerful psychostimulant, colloquially called "cocaine for the poor". The rules for transporting it across the border are very complex, they were tightened even more during the pandemic. According to people familiar with the situation, Simone Biles ' coach was unable to bring the supply of ritalin required by his ward to Japan.

    Left without the usual medicine, the famous gymnast withdrew from the competition, abandoning her team to the mercy of fate. The American media proclaimed her a heroine, broke out with sentimental texts. Let's call things by their proper names, however. In front of the whole world, the leading American athlete was experiencing a banal drug withdrawal.

    To distract the public's attention from this shame, the head of the American Anti-Doping Agency, Travis Tygart, attacked Russian athletes: "Russia deserves severe punishment and continues to cheat."

    Listen, but this is the same Tygart who recently punished the American runner Sha'Curry Richardson with one purely symbolic month of disqualification. Richardson got high on marijuana right before the start. Usually, WADA disqualifies for such a thing for four years.

    And now Tygart accuses Russia of "state support of doping" and offers to publish all the doping tests of the Olympians. Well, good luck. Russian athletes have nothing to fear, the IOC has just confirmed that they have no positive samples. But it will be interesting to look at the tests of American athletes. It seems that the entire periodic table is already there.

    Russians are used to pressure at international competitions. But the politicization of the Tokyo Olympics is simply off the scale. Unable to win in a fair fight, Western partners are sophisticated in provocations, lies, outright assaults. "Oh, sport, you are war!" — the Americans should redo the Olympic slogan, now it is fashionable.

    All this causes only pity, of course. These unfortunate athletes project the hatred that is tearing American society apart from the inside out today. They are frantically trying to turn the peaceful Olympic Games into a battlefield. High-minded analysts call this "chaos export", they see strategic goals here. But increasingly it seems that this is just an instinct. Otherwise, the partners simply can not.

    The unpunished use of drugs and prohibited substances by American athletes may give them some victories. But at a long distance, this is a really scary thing. For several generations, American children have been accustomed to the idea that you can become a sports star only if you pump yourself up with various rubbish from an early age. This lawlessness will be covered by coaches, doctors, Travis Tygart, everyone up to the president. What is this, if not "state support for doping"? WADA should take care of the Americans — in the name of the future of big-time sports.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:48 pm

    andalusia wrote:
    Even in the 1988 games, Flo Jo was suspected of using steroids and I personally believe she did do it.  

    Oh, she did it alright.  How many elite athletes do you know who dominate in athletics and then croak of a heart attack at the age of 39?

    Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Man, she was wired so tight on roids she squeaked when she walked.

    Good riddance to the cheating censored  thumbsup

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    Post  GarryB Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:19 am

    Regarding transgender people, they have always been around but in the past have had to hide themselves from the world.

    There are mens and womens sports for a reason because men and women are physically different... if you don't agree then there should be no womens sports and no mens sports, just sports... the boxing would be interesting to watch.

    The point is that they are divided into two groups because of their physicalities, not for any reasons of sexism... there is no glass ceiling for women to break there.

    Transgender people seem to be a bit like the Jews... no criticism allowed... whatever.

    But if they want to compete in sport perhaps we need a new group or groups to compensate.

    If you think about it there is already paralympics and that is divided into groups... male female, as well as different groups as necessary... imagine a golf game... I bet the blind people would do best on the games held at night.

    The real question is... could a paralympian compete at the normal olympics... and they did with that south african guy who murdered his girlfriend... maybe a guy in a wheelchair could compete in the 100m... a souped up electric chair...

    The amusing thing is that as a man everyone thought he would clean up at the olympics and he didn't.

    With only one or two competitors.... (wasn't there a guy playing in one of the womens hockey teams?) there is little point in doing much at the moment but as more people identify as "don't know" and then realise how low the bar is in womens sport, then perhaps a new category of open or mixed competition could be looked at... especially in team games...
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    Post  kvs Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:55 pm

    I doubt that after the 1970s transgender people had any issues with getting jobs or living their lives relatively normally. Maybe they
    could not dress up in queen drag for their day jobs, but cry me a river. Being "forced" to wear what amounts to a uniform for a job
    is no sort of oppression.

    Before the 1970s, there may have been more of an issue but that depended on how much flaunting was of their "gender identity"
    was involved. But we have Edgar Hoover of the FBI as an example. He was a fruit and a transvestite. That did not prevent
    him from being head of the FBI.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:38 am


    ‘We will ROC you’: How Russians crushed the Tokyo Olympics under an alias

    Still banned from competing under their own flag or anthem, athletes of the Russian Olympic Committee are sweeping up medals beyond even their own expectations.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-olympics-roc-athletes-tokyo-doping-ban-medals-count-11628070680

    Russia’s not really at the Olympics. But that hasn’t stopped the world’s largest country from hauling gold out of Tokyo like a Siberian mine.

    The Russian Olympic Committee, as the athletes competing here are known, has 52 total medals at the Tokyo Games, putting them behind only China and the U.S. They can’t celebrate under their flag. Nor can they blare the Russian national anthem on the podium. Yet they’re walking away with hardware in some of the Olympics’ biggest and most prestigious events, even after the country was technically banned for a yearslong, state-sponsored doping scheme.

    For the athletes who did make it to Tokyo, it took surviving the twin blows of national ignominy and Covid-19. It turns out that these might have been the best things to happen to them. In the midst of a global pandemic, Russians discovered a secret training weapon that was available to few other athletes on the planet: their own geography.

    By locking themselves down in places like the far-flung Eastern city of Vladivostok or the Sakhalin island, many ROC stars were able to prepare in similar time zones and conditions as Japan.

    Others, like the gymnasts, may not have been 4,000 miles from Moscow, but practiced in intense Russian bubbles that transformed the pandemic into a grueling, non-stop grind.

    “We trained—a lot," said Russian gold medalist gymnast Angelina Melnikova, who was cooped up for months in a Soviet-built training camp called Round Lake where foreigners were prohibited from entering. “We were basically in a closed training camp for a year and a half working very hard without seeing our families or having normal lives."

    The Russian Olympic Committee arrived in Tokyo still under the cloud of a doping scandal dating back to the run-up to the Sochi Games in 2014. After a string of investigations, appeals, and punishments, Russian was ultimately banned from most international sports until the end of next year. A team of 330 Russian athletes was allowed to compete under the banner of the ROC and celebrate medals to the tune of a Tchaikovsky piano concerto instead of the anthem.

    Melnikova was part of the Russian team that wrested the women’s team gold away from the Americans after back-to-back U.S. titles in Rio and London. It was the first time a team awkwardly representing Russia had won the event since the Unified Team of former Soviet Union states prevailed in 1992. Melnikova also took two more bronzes, and the triumphs came after an extraordinary set of circumstances allowed her to practice in a way that other athletes across the globe couldn’t.

    When gyms in the U.S. and other countries closed their doors to stop the spread of a novel coronavirus, she and her teammates entered an unprecedented boot camp. It didn’t just give them a chance to continue working. It allowed them to do so without distractions.

    “Of course it was worth it," she said after earning her second medal, “and maybe it was for the best because we were more concentrated on the practice."

    Ahead of the Games, the ROC said it expected its athletes to win around 50 medals. They clinched that with six days left in the competition. They have been so successful that sometimes the only people stopping Russians from winning gold were other Russians.

    In the tennis mixed doubles final, the pair of Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova and Andrey Rublev defeated Elena Vesnina and Aslan Karatsev in the final. They knew the conditions well. A few weeks earlier, Russia’s tennis stars had sweated through a camp together on Sakhalin island north of Japan.

    “It’s very special to have Russians playing well in the Olympic Games," Rublev said. “We had a good preparation first of all, one week in Sakhalin. The Russian Federation made the opportunity to practice there to get used to the time zone and the weather conditions, so we came here prepared."

    Covid-19 prevented most countries from sending their athletes to Tokyo early to do the same. But the Russians had their own outpost on the Sea of Japan. Vladivostok is only some 600 miles west and an hour ahead of Tokyo and they were able to simulate similar conditions they’d be competing under.

    Known as Russia’s Far Eastern capital, the city became an Olympic Village of sorts, with athletes in some 15 sports, from archery to wrestling, training in the region. The swimmers were initially due to train in Osaka, Japan, but the camp was canceled due to the pandemic and they headed to Russia’s port city as well.

    The sports ministry invested in buying equipment and inventory for the athletes in Vladivostok.

    “The athletes have always trained here and have given good results," the region’s governor Oleg Kozhemyako said in July.

    The tennis mixed doubles wasn’t the only final with all-Russian intrigue. Sofia Pozdniakova outdueled Sofya Velikaya for the women’s sabre gold in fencing. And Vitalina Batsarashkina outshot Anastasiia Galashina when they finished first and second in the women’s 10-meter air rifle event.

    The country-that-shall-not-be-named even made some history at these Olympics. Maksim Khramtcov became the first-ever Russian to win gold in taekwondo. He wasn’t alone for long: Vladislav Larin won gold in another weight class just one day later. The Russians men’s gymnastics team, like the women, also reclaimed the gold and it was their first since 1996.

    “Do you remember the news about the typhoon this morning?" said Russian men’s gymnast Nikita Nagornyy. “Well, the typhoon has happened. We took the medal, so don’t worry about the typhoon any more."

    All of that success has turned up the heat on the Olympics’ lingering Cold War. Athletes haven’t hidden their feelings that all Russian athletes should have been banned from Tokyo along with their flag.

    “Seeing a crew who shouldn’t even be here walk away with a silver is a nasty feeling," American rower Megan Kalmoe tweeted after a Russian pair took second place. American swimmer Ryan Murphy said Friday’s 200-meter backstroke final was “probably not clean" after he lost to Russian Evgeny Rylov.

    The Russians have been even less shy in fighting back.

    “Yes, we are here at the Olympics. Absolutely right," the ROC said on Friday. “Whether someone likes it or not."

    “Forgive those who are weaker," the ROC continued. “God is their judge. And for us—an assistant."

    Russia’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova went even further in a clip she posted on Instagram where she pummels a boxing doll that features a PRESS tag—Russian officials have long argued that the doping allegations against the country were blown out of proportion by the Western media. “We will ROC you," she addresses Russia’s competitors, referring to a popular hashtag on social media #WeWillRocYou.

    Then she adds one more comment: “From Russia with Love."



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    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:43 am

    The presenter on NZ TV coverage of the olympics made an off the cuff comment about how New Zealand is doing very well in the medals tables and would be one place higher if ROC was not there, which he said they should not be... what a dick... to their credit the two people with him didn't say anything and just looked a bit uncomfortable... being kiwi athletes I think they were embarrassed that he said that... the sort of thing a biased Australian cricket commentator might say, but kiwi commentators are usually more reserved.

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    Post  George1 Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:08 pm

    Russia in proceeds in men's volleyball final!

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    Post  Kiko Fri Aug 06, 2021 2:48 pm

    Russian athletes to compete for top three in Olympic medal count, ROC chief says, 06.08.2021.

    Stanislav Pozdnyakov noted that there were still a number of important events ahead, where Russian athletes made it to the finals.

    TOKYO, August 6. /TASS/. Team ROC (the Russian Olympic Committee) will compete to make it to the top three in the Tokyo Olympics medal count, Stanislav Pozdnyakov, head of the ROC, told TASS.

    Team ROC is currently 5th in the overall medal count. Russian athletes boast 16 gold, 22 silver and 21 bronze medals. Chinese athletes are in first place (34-24-16), followed by the Americans (30-35-27) and the Japanese (22-10-15).

    "There are still a number of important events ahead, our athletes made it to the finals there. I am not able to categorically forecast. We are already in the top three by the total number of awards. Yet we will still try to fight for the gold medals," the ROC chief said.

    The Olympic Games will conclude on August 8.

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    Post  Kiko Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:06 pm

    Putin called attempts to politicize sport as insignificant and pointless, 06.08.2021.

    VILLAGE PERVOMAYSKY (Bashkiria), August 6 - RIA Novosti. The results of the Russian Olympians prove that all attempts to politicize sports are insignificant, harmful and senseless, Vladimir Putin said at a meeting with workers at the Cemix building mixtures plant in Bashkiria.

    "As for the anthem, the flag, etc. I believe that the decision of the sports arbitration court still has a political connotation to a certain extent. Why? Because when we talk about doping, then - this has always been the world practice - in view of the attitude of a particular athlete, athlete or his coach to this, the degree of his guilt was determined. Guilt is always individual, "the president added.

    Putin noted that all countries face similar problems, citing cycling as an example.

    "In hotels, they catch with this doping, on the tracks. What is not there. In all countries <...> Here it seems to me that, unfortunately, sports officials were unable to resist political pressure," the head of state said.

    He also commented on the situation with the ban on the flag and anthem of Russia at major competitions.

    "We are talking about the absence of the Russian flag. Yes, it would be better. But our athletes have the badge of the Russian Olympic Committee with the Russian tricolor on their uniforms. So what? Do they like Tchaikovsky's music more than Alexandrov's music? Well, I don't know, let them listen to music. Tchaikovsky, "Putin said.

    The Court of Arbitration for Sport published a decision on the dispute between WADA and the Russian Anti-Doping Agency on December 17, 2020, which states that Russian athletes cannot participate in the Olympic and Paralympic Games under the national flag until December 16, 2022. Nevertheless, at the Tokyo Olympics, athletes were allowed to use the colors of the Russian flag on their uniforms.

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    Post  andalusia Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:37 am

    How do Russians and others feel about the USA leading atop the medal table in the Summer Olympics since the breakup of the USSR? The Soviet Union used to lead in the medal table.  

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_at_the_Olympics

    Why doesn't Russia still produce top level women's basketball to challenge the US? The US has won about 52 straight games since 1996 and their last lost was to the Commonwealth of Independent States in 1992.  Russia used to give the US women's basketball team a tough challenge from the late 90s to mid 00s.

    Russia beat the US at the FIBA World Championship in 2006.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIBA_World_Championship_for_Women

    On another note why is Russia not good at Track and Field anymore because their medal count was low. Also why didn't Russia develop a good women's soccer team during the existence of the Soviet Union?

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    Post  Mir Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:10 am

    andalusia wrote:How do Russians and others feel about the USA leading atop the medal table in the Summer Olympics since the breakup of the USSR? The Soviet Union used to lead in the medal table.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_at_the_Olympics

    Why doesn't Russia still produce top level women's basketball to challenge the US? The US has won about 52 straight games since 1996 and their last lost was to the Commonwealth of Independent States in 1992. Russia used to give the US women's basketball team a tough challenge from the late 90s to mid 00s.

    Russia beat the US at the FIBA World Championship in 2006.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIBA_World_Championship_for_Women

    On another note why is Russia not good at Track and Field anymore because their medal count was low. Also why didn't Russia develop a good women's soccer team during the existence of the Soviet Union?

    The simple answer is the USSR consisted of many countries - all are now independent - which means Russia competes on it's own like all the other countries which were once the Soviet Union.

    ICYMI there is also the so-called "doping scandal" where many Russian athletes are excluded from competing. Those Russians that are allowed to compete can not do so under the banner of their National flag/anthem - hence ROC. Considering all the obstacles they are doing pretty fooken well.

    So if you exclude your competition it becomes a lot easier to win medals.

    During the Soviet era the steroid loaded GDR was also near the top of the medal count - yet today's Germany doesn't do as well as they're supposedly should?

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    Post  George1 Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:18 am

    andalusia wrote:How do Russians and others feel about the USA leading atop the medal table in the Summer Olympics since the breakup of the USSR? The Soviet Union used to lead in the medal table.  

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_at_the_Olympics

    Why doesn't Russia still produce top level women's basketball to challenge the US? The US has won about 52 straight games since 1996 and their last lost was to the Commonwealth of Independent States in 1992.  Russia used to give the US women's basketball team a tough challenge from the late 90s to mid 00s.

    Russia beat the US at the FIBA World Championship in 2006.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIBA_World_Championship_for_Women

    On another note why is Russia not good at Track and Field anymore because their medal count was low. Also why didn't Russia develop a good women's soccer team during the existence of the Soviet Union?

    besides what Mir said above you must consider also that IOC has included many shit new sports in Olympics who favor USA (skateboard, surfing, 3x3 basketball, BMX cycling) and which are sports for Youth Olympics actually. At the same time IOC reduces categories in sports that Russia could won more gold medals (wrestling, boxing, wheightlifting)

    Imagine for example if sambo included in Olympic program and also 4-6 more categories in wrestling, boxing, wheightlifting. Russia could have +10 golds!!

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    Post  Hole Sat Aug 07, 2021 12:33 pm

    Synchronized swimming comes to mind. You got 8 or 9 competitions at world championships but only 2 at the olympics.

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    Post  George1 Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:28 pm

    Just see here. IOC is getting more and more undemocratic. Earlier in July they gave hosting rights to Brisbane for 2032 without voting. Now a small team 9executive board) will decide which sports will be included nd which will be removed..


    The IOC Session is expected to pass the changes when it reconvenes tomorrow ©IOC

    The International Olympic Committee (IOC) Executive Board will be given the power to suspend sports from the Olympic programme without approval from the Session under changes being proposed to the Charter.

    https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1111347/ioc-charter

    Russia should withdraw from all next Olympics and other countries should do the same. Let them compete alone

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:46 pm


    andalusia wrote:How do Russians and others feel about the USA leading atop the medal table in the Summer Olympics since the breakup of the USSR?...

    Half the population = half the medals, this is logical setup

    And besides unlike back in USSR they have Russian athletes who are happy to come back home instead of defecting to West every chance they get

    Far superior situation​







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    Post  Mir Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:17 pm

    And then you get this kind of criminal BS Mad

    "‘BANDITS!’ Russians fume at Olympic judges as hot favorite Dina Averina denied gymnastics gold by Israeli rival who DROPPED ribbon"

    https://www.rt.com/sport/531414-dina-averina-scandal-rhythmic-gymnastics-tokyo/

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