Russia's reaction in case of US/West attack to Syria

US is saying they are going to topple Syria.

http://www.infowars.com/sen-graham-we-will-attack-syria-soon/

That's a Senator from the Armed Services Committee. Too bad Russia is losing Syria.

Well I think by now Syria got those 20 Pancir-S1 systems.

Yakhont missiles and MIG-29M/31 on order. Not much of advance weapons but still.

GarryB wrote:

I can guarantee the Russians will block any UNSC resolution

Turkey will take out Syria without the UN. (with secret help of course) Turkey is sending someone to read Syria's leader the "Riot Act"....what's that all about?

US naval movements around Syria. Hezbollah moves rockets, Iran says will strike Turkey If it attacks Syria .

Turkey is a NATO member..if they get attacked ..NATO will be required to respond. So these sudden U.S. movements makes sense.

Iranian/Hezbollah media says they will attack Turkey if they intervene in Syria

Syrian tanks have pushed toward more towns near the Turkish and Iraqi borders, expanding the crackdown as more Syrians flee their homes.

Turkish Foreign Ministry calls special meeting of Arab, Western ambassadors to discuss the situation in Syria

Arab League issues first condemnation of Syria violence

Arab states are “angry and actively monitoring” the crisis

Military and intelligence sources report that Monday, June 13, the US deployed the USS Bataan amphibian air carrier strike vessel opposite Syria’s Mediterranean coast with 2,000 marines, 6 war planes, 15 attack helicopters, including new V-22 Ospreys, and 27 choppers for landing forces aboard.Also this week, US naval units went operational in the Aegean, Adriatic and Black Seas as part of the joint US-Ukrainian Sea Breeze 2011 exercise.
The USS Monterrey cruiser armed with Aegis surface missile interceptors has additionally been stationed in the Black Sea. Western sources additionally report a build-up of ship-borne anti-missile missile strength in the Mediterranean basin.

This huge concentration of naval missile interceptor units looks like preparations by Washington for the contingency of Iran, Syria and Hezbollah letting loose with surface missiles against US and Israeli targets in the event of US military intervention to stop the anti-opposition slaughter underway in Syria.

Moscow, Tehran and Damascus, in particular, are taking this exceptional spate of American military movements in and around the Mediterranean as realistically portending American intervention in Syria.

This concentration of US might also the effect of deterring the Turkish government from going through with its decision to send Turkish troops into Syria. The plan was to create a protected buffer zone where the thousands of refugees in flight from the Assad regime’s military crackdown would be kept safe on Syrian side of the border and out of Turkey.

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyep Erdogan is averse to be seen working hand in glove militarily with any US interference in Syria. At the same time, Western intelligence sources in the Persian Gulf are sure Washington is coordinating its military movements with Ankara and that Erdogan quietly agreed to place Turkish bases at US disposal for an operation in Syria.

Debka file’s military sources also report that Monday, June 13, Hezbollah began shifting the long- and medium-range rockets it had stored in northern Lebanon to locations in the center of the country. Western military sources first thought the Lebanese Shiite group was taking the precaution of keeping its arsenal safe from a spillover of violence from Syria. Tuesday, however, they learned that Iranian intelligence had advised Hezbollah to remove its rockets out of range of a possible American operation in Syria.
Tuesday, Iran capped these events with three separate warnings to the Obama administration against military interference in Syria.

Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehman-Parast said Tuesday: “The Americans are not allowed to launch a military intervention in any country of the region including Syria.”

He accused “Israel and the USA of standing behind the riots in Syria, Iran’s closest ally in the Arab world… with particular aims…of provoking terrorist groups in Syria and in the region to carry out terrorist and sabotage operations.”

Another spokesman warned: “Western attempts to set the model of Libya in Damascus are doomed to failure.”

Iranian Vice President Reza Rahimi accused the United States of preparing and executing “the slaughter of Muslims” worldwide.

Iran’s ground forces commander Brig. Gen. Kioumars Heidari added this threat: Any new military move by the US in the region will impose heavy costs on the country far greater than the costs it paid in Iraq and Afghanistan

Obama NEEDS a World War.

Turkey will attack Syria. The middle east will go crazy.....the muslims in the US will take their guns to the streets and start shooting. This would PLEASE Obama. After he guns down the muslims in the US, he would use it as an excuse to abolish 2nd Amendment in the United States, no more right to have guns..Martial Law.

That's what it's all about. The NSA/CIA/Pentagon all know when nations secrets come out....the whole world will be mad at the mega Trillions spent/wasted....military outposts in Space...secret Spacecraft since '69.

There's nothing Russia/China will be able to do...either they fire off their ICBM's....or slowly die as their allies are whittled away....well there are some things they could do...

We will soon see if the Shanghai Cooperation has any teeth. Buy gas masks and spare filters. No one will know who used them first....but they will likely be used.

U.S and NATO are pushing this region towards hell ,

what is the point here ?! human rights , wow very kind people !

I wonder how much oil Libya has compared to Syria.

Hope!! Change!! Turn the corner!! Yes we can!!

There will be no bombing in Syria. US is done, Europe is done... no one left but Israel and that just makes it worse.

Syria is NOT a party to the Chemical Weapons Convention, yet has Chemical Weapons. Maybe why the US is saying they refuse to destroy their Chemical Weapons Stockpile by April 2012.

Because Russia is not forcing Syria to destroy its chemical weapons/join the Treaty.


This is all about the Chemical Weapons Convention and ridding the world of chemical weapons.


If Russia wanted to prevent Syria from being toppled, it merely has to get Syria to join the Chemical Weapons Convention.....then FORCE the US to comply with the April 2012 mandate....all chemical weapons destroyed.

GarryB wrote:It is not Russias role to dictate to anyone about chemical weapons stockpiles.

Yes they do, its in the Treaty. If Russia made it/abandoned it there...they gotta do something about it.


I think I was correct about Libya's Chemical weapons came from the US, the link below says the US gave Libya $$$ to safely get rid of its chemical weapons. The Treaty said Libya had to get rid of its chemical weapons by April 2011.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_Weapons_Convention

March 2011 the UN Security Council said bomb the pee out of Libya. Must be Gaddafi wasn't going to be able to comply with the April deadline.


Syria's next.

According to the Syrian state news network SANA, only 600 or so of these armed rioters have been killed in Syria since it all began.

For the lying shit bag UN to claim 'thousands' have died is a disgusting attempt at the usual disinformation.

There will be no attack on Syria. Russia, China and Iran have drawn the line.

No body in Russia, China and Iran wants to see more western run puppet regimes like the ones in Libya and Egypt right now.

lulldapull wrote:

No body in Russia, China and Iran wants to see more western run puppet regimes like the ones in Libya and Egypt right now.

Correction:
Egypt is not awestern puppet regimes, we have all relations with eastern countries ,military,economic,and political co-operation,hay we gave china some F-16 parts, N.korea some missile technology ,we refused CISOMA or establishing U.S military bases in Egypt.

Ahmed, that Tantawi bastard is still on the zionist payroll.......

The only "Ally" of any power is Russia but there is only so much murder we can take before we have to let the West do something. Even the Arab League and Turkey have dumped Assad. Iran is telling him to chill out. The Free Syrian Army is getting pretty active and is only a matter of time before they become the people's liberation front for an NTC with Western backing. With 20,000 Army defectors already it won't be long before half of it is gone fighting the other side.

The rift between Russia and the West over Syria and Iran has widened on Tuesday as Moscow sent warships to Syrian shores in a show of support for the regime of President Bashar al-Assad and slammed new United States sanctions against Iran as “unacceptable”.

Three Russian warships have entered Syrian territorial waters, Russian wire services reported on Tuesday citing Syrian sources. The news came a day after Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov accused the West and Arab monarchies of engaging in “political provocation” in Syria by rejecting dialogue between the opposition and authorities and welcoming armed attacks on government offices.

The Russian warships were reported to be heading towards the Syrian port of Tartus, where Russia has a naval base. A source close to the Syrian President said the Russian ships would patrol Syrian waters “to prevent any military interference”. Media reports said the ships may try to intercept small vessels that are smuggling weapons for Syrian opposition from the Lebanon and Turkey.

The Russian military refused either to confirm or deny the reports.

“We are not commenting on this information,” said Russian Navy spokesman Igor Dygalo.


I have no info on what ships it is, but its a serious statement from russia.
And i have no doubt that Nato warships are nearby.
Its a high risk game, as some nervouse seaman can spark a naval battle.

Where is Cruiser Moskva? In Syria??

"Russia has dispatched a naval fleet to the region, including a guided missile cruiser, two anti submarine ships and 47 fighter planes."

Apperently!!

Hope so, because at the same time, two US Carriers took up positions out of the coast of Iran. This can go awfully wrong..


"Monday, Nov. 21, presidential sources in Damascus announced three warships had entered Syrian territorial waters outside Tartus port

Those sources stressed the Russian ships would not anchor in the Syrian port, indicating that their mission was not just to show the flag for the Assad regime but was on operational duty along its coasts to resist any foreign intervention in Syria unrest.

Our military sources are watching to see whether the Russian flotilla targets the small craft transporting arms from Lebanon and Turkey to Syrian rebels fighting the regime. If so, Moscow would be able to present these strikes as actions against piracy which would fall under a UN Security Council resolution.

While Moscow and Damascus kept the identity of the Russian warships dark, Arab sources said at least two of them are equipped for gathering intelligence and electronic warfare.

As the Russian warships entered Syrian territorial waters, Canadian Defense Minister Peter McKay announced that in the light of the Syrian crisis, the Royal Canadian Navy would keep back in the Mediterranean until the end of 2012 certain vessels which took part in the Libyan campaign"

GarryB wrote:Well with Russian ships in Syrian waters you can be sure those coastal anti ship batteries should get sufficient data to attack ships at full range rather than just horizon range.

Good thinking Gary.
Its a powder barrel right now. Though i understand the Syrians wish to oust their dictator, i dont think a NATO bombing cicil war is the way to solve the situation.

If the Carriers in the persian golf attacks Iran, i guess all hell will break loose in the region. And soon the big K will be there also...
What about russian subs, any of those in there?