They brought a good camera this time
Also twice in the same month they laid off the bellicose 'zomg we stopped a Russkie invasion' stuff
Starting to sound more solid now but I still say Russia should complete the 6 for BSF.The Government of India intends in October to sign an agreement on the acquisition from Russia of four new frigates of Project 11356 for the country's Navy, there is a discussion of the latest details of the deal. On this Monday, September 17, reportsTASSwith reference to the newspaper The Economic Times .
According to the publication, an agreement on the delivery of frigates will be signed in October during the summit with the participation of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Russian President Vladimir Putin. The document in preparation implies the formula "2 + 2": two ships will be built at the shipyard in Indian Goa, and two more will be delivered from Russia.
According to the sources, at the present time the latest details are being coordinated. The total cost of the project is estimated at $ 2.2 billion. India, perhaps, will pay for the acquisition under the "rupee-ruble" scheme, because US sanctions against Russia have complicated calculations in dollars, the newspaper said.
hoom wrote:Essen broke away from Syria to pay a visit to Messina in Sicily.
verkhoturye51 wrote:hoom wrote:Essen broke away from Syria to pay a visit to Messina in Sicily.
Might be some politics in the background...if Kremlin-financed Salvini wouldn't be prime minister I wouldn't expect Russian warhips in NATO land.
For sure, its very interesting I think that Russia has continued to make these sorts of 'business as usual' visits quietly highlighting historical ties/good actions as if there isn't a huge info-war against Russia going on.Might be some politics in the background
Here & there UK/US media catches on -> make a big spoiling fuss like the Russian ship visits to Spanish Ceuta but they have long since forgotten stuff like Russian aid to Messina.
PTURBG wrote:This is absolutely disgusting. Russia needs new frigates. India doesnt and shouldnt get them because its friendly with the US.
Vladimir79 wrote:PTURBG wrote:This is absolutely disgusting. Russia needs new frigates. India doesnt and shouldnt get them because its friendly with the US.
Your trolling is disgusting, you claim to be a pro-Russian Bulgarian but I have yet to see you say one positive thing about us.
PTURBG wrote:This is absolutely disgusting. Russia needs new frigates. India doesnt and shouldnt get them because its friendly with the US.
PTURBG wrote:
How is this trolling? I'm criticizing the decision, not the product. Meanwhile all your posts are about how Russia is hopelessly dumb, corrupt and unable to compete with the west. You consider the rafale's RCS superior to the Su-57's(LOL) and french cruise missiles superior to Russian ones. You claim that canards cannot be stealthy even tho this western propaganda statement has been refuted at least a dozen times here. How's this not trolling on your part?
GunshipDemocracy wrote:PTURBG wrote:This is absolutely disgusting. Russia needs new frigates. India doesnt and shouldnt get them because its friendly with the US.
I udner stand your wish to support Russia but firstof all you need to read news not only headlines. Text clearly says:
The fate of the last ship of the series at the moment depends on the success in the production of domestic power plants, in particular gas turbine engines at NPO Saturn and gearboxes at PJSC Zvezda.
Russia is not going to build them as long as cannot produce power plants. This has nothing to do with India. India from the other hand didnt buy any frigates yet. It would be great tho if they did.
BTW Cruiser Moskva will be modernized. Oh well would be great to have radars, avionics and P-500 replaced by Onyx.
To suggest we should buy submarines from China or stop selling weapons to India... that is trolling. Making statements of fact is not.
PTURBG wrote:
I said AIPs, not submarines and I never said to stop exporting weapons to India, just not these frigates. Given that some people here want south korean and chinese shipyards to build Russian aircraft carriers, I have no idea why you suddenly consider my statement as trolling.
Also I ask again: how is your claim that canards are unstealthy and that rafale is stealthier than the Su-57 not trolling on your part?
We don't have a shipyard that can build a super carrier hull so to outsource it is not out of the question
Irrelevant. Stupid ideas are stupid.the people saying that have a long history of contributions to this forum.
stop selling Talwar frigates
Canards are unstealthy... it is a statement of fact.
The Rafale is 0.3m^2, the Su-57 is 0.5m^2... statement of fact from Dassault engineers and IAF officials respectively.
1. Jews arent a raceHow do you refer to a race as semitic goatherders and not call that trolling?
if it isn't trolling your posts certainly aren't up to the level of discussion I want here. Either pick up the quality of your content or pack your bags.
PTURBG wrote:Says the person ignoring Vann7 text walls for 5 years already.
PTURBG wrote:But its inevitable that Saturn will produce powerplants for these frigates so any proposals to sell them to a 3rd party should be out of the question.
Vladimir79 wrote:PTURBG wrote:Says the person ignoring Vann7 text walls for 5 years already.
How would you know about that when you joined two weeks ago? Previously banned user maybe...
GunshipDemocracy wrote:PTURBG wrote:But its inevitable that Saturn will produce powerplants for these frigates so any proposals to sell them to a 3rd party should be out of the question.
Im sure they will. But then on the contrary. To sell them even in larger numbers. Proven construction, adequate performance and longer series make them cheaper per unit.
PTURBG wrote:
It doesnt take a lot of effort to see his old textwalls in the syria, ukraine and Russian politics/economy threads
Vladimir79 wrote:PTURBG wrote:
It doesnt take a lot of effort to see his old textwalls in the syria, ukraine and Russian politics/economy threads
It actually takes quite a bit of effort to read through the thousands of posts going back 5 years.