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ORSIS T-5000?
ORSIS T-5000?
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Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons
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Is that Barwari, the one who allegedly said there are MiGs in the russian deal, and expected soon? Unless Lavrov meant "helicopters" instead of "planes" (not unexpected)...could it be ?
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mack8 wrote:Is that Barwari,
yes.
the one who allegedly said there are MiGs in the russian deal,
he did not. somebody pretending to be him on a facebook group did!
and expected soon? Unless Lavrov meant "helicopters" instead of "planes" (not unexpected)...could it be ?
We don't know. The only "official" source we've had say Iraq is buying MiG35s has been the head of the US Iraqi defence and security cooperation...
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sheytanelkebir wrote:ORSIS T-5000?
Yes
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SD3 Exclusive: First pictures of Iraqi night Havocs
So far 23 Mi NE 28 has-beens Delivered to Baghdad, in two batches, 10 in 2013 and 13 in september january 2014.
Today Russia, Kenya and Iraq are the only Mid 28's operators. India and Venezuela are Regarded as serious future operators. Algeria HAS ordered Another Version of the Mi 28, with a dual training and attack role, and Improved avionics and weaponery.
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I'm afraid i do not believe the info posted above is accurate (no confirmation Kenya received Mi-28s and certainly Iraq did NOT received 23 Mi-28s already!), and i'm not sure if that is indeed an iraqi Mi-28NE. The paint is the normal VVS Mi-28N primer, and can't see yet any modifications (like the NE bort 38) or english (or maybe arabic) stenciling on the tail. We have to wait and see. Hopefully the first flight of an iraqi Mi-28NE is not too far though.
sheytanelkebir- Posts : 536
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agree with MACk8... that "news" is a complete fabrication right down to the urban myth of Kenyan Mi28s!
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32 Iraqi trainers graduate from a 42 day intensive training program to induct the KORNET-E missile into Iraqi service.
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on the BMPD blog. Rostvertol released its annual figures and it stated the unit price Iraq paid for the Mi35M last year to be 740M rubles (about $21M).
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Thanks for posting sheytanelkebir.
So now we can confirm the weapons apart of the Iraq weapons package being:
Mi-35M
Mi-28N
Pantsir-S1
KORNET-E
ORSIS T-5000
IGLA
Has there been any other new released recently?
Anymore news if Iraq is purchasing the MiG-29M/35 or any other aircraft?
So now we can confirm the weapons apart of the Iraq weapons package being:
Mi-35M
Mi-28N
Pantsir-S1
KORNET-E
ORSIS T-5000
IGLA
Has there been any other new released recently?
Anymore news if Iraq is purchasing the MiG-29M/35 or any other aircraft?
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Today in the latest edition of the official MOD publication "khaima" The commander of the 34th armoured brigade held a training session for officers of the 3rd tank regiment to prepare them for the imminent arrival of the new T90 tanks a large number of which have been bought as part of the Iraqi-Russian arms agreements.
http://www.mod.mil.iq/khaima/pdf/317.pdf
so another "detail" emerges!
http://www.mod.mil.iq/khaima/pdf/317.pdf
so another "detail" emerges!
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so now the details for the 1st contract that we know so far are:
Mi35M helicopters
Mi28NE helicopters
PANTSIR-S1 surface to air missiles
IGLA surface to air missiles
KORNET-E anti tank missiles
Orsis -T5000 sniper rifles
T90 Tanks
and we await more updates!!
Mi35M helicopters
Mi28NE helicopters
PANTSIR-S1 surface to air missiles
IGLA surface to air missiles
KORNET-E anti tank missiles
Orsis -T5000 sniper rifles
T90 Tanks
and we await more updates!!
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Good news.
Any idea yet what model of T-90 they are going to be?
Any idea yet what model of T-90 they are going to be?
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Flyboy77 wrote:Good news.
Any idea yet what model of T-90 they are going to be?
Hopefully the T-90MS.
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no idea about which version of T90 or quantities.
I would guess that the much vaunted "second contract" would include even more armour as well as fighter jets as alluded to by the air force commander earlier last month.
I would guess that the much vaunted "second contract" would include even more armour as well as fighter jets as alluded to by the air force commander earlier last month.
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By the look of the fighting, there needs to be a serious operational overhaul, or the new equipment will burn just as well as the old stuff 
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sheytanelkebir- Posts : 536
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yes indeed. what they would really need right now are some terminators to help in Falluja. MBTs are of little use in that environment and their lack of situational awareness (none of the iraqi MBTs have independent commanders sights, ERA, APS, not even abrams) makes them of little utility in that particular "zone"... but the T90 (as indicated by the iraqi MOD) will be used to equip 2-3 new armoured divisions for "external defence" not for urban combat. Most probably it won't be until 2020 until all the new divisions are stood up... by which time they could probably start buying ARMATA to replace some of their T55/T72s and have a fully "modernised" armour component.
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The T90 version is the T90S which will be upgraded later in Iraq.
Also the deal includes BMP3M for the armoured divisions again.
now the list of items in the First contract are:
Mi35M helicopters
Mi28NE helicopters
PANTSIR-S1 surface to air missiles
IGLA surface to air missiles
KORNET-E anti tank missiles
Orsis -T5000 sniper rifles
T90S Tanks
BMP3M Fighting Vehicles
That now accounts for 5 of the 7 "major items" that the MOD said is part of the first deal.
Also the deal includes BMP3M for the armoured divisions again.
now the list of items in the First contract are:
Mi35M helicopters
Mi28NE helicopters
PANTSIR-S1 surface to air missiles
IGLA surface to air missiles
KORNET-E anti tank missiles
Orsis -T5000 sniper rifles
T90S Tanks
BMP3M Fighting Vehicles
That now accounts for 5 of the 7 "major items" that the MOD said is part of the first deal.
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That sounds like too much stuff for just 4.2 billion! Either there is a separate contract, or this is one of the best defence bargains in this decade 
Although, come to think of it, the Mi-35Ms were SUPLIMENTARY to the main contract, so the total value might be around 4.5 billion. Still, 48 Pantsirs, 36 Mi-28NE, 800 Kornets, several thousands T-5000, likely over a hundred each T-90S and BMP-3M, likely several hundreds Igla and so on sounds like a lot of gear for that money.
Interestingly, most or all these items were part of the the strategic items list discussed back in 2012. Only missing are fighters (MiG-29M2 or Su-30MK2).
Btw, wonder if there was/will be a BTR-82A order.
Although, come to think of it, the Mi-35Ms were SUPLIMENTARY to the main contract, so the total value might be around 4.5 billion. Still, 48 Pantsirs, 36 Mi-28NE, 800 Kornets, several thousands T-5000, likely over a hundred each T-90S and BMP-3M, likely several hundreds Igla and so on sounds like a lot of gear for that money. Interestingly, most or all these items were part of the the strategic items list discussed back in 2012. Only missing are fighters (MiG-29M2 or Su-30MK2).
Btw, wonder if there was/will be a BTR-82A order.
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mack8 wrote:That sounds like too much stuff for just 4.2 billion! Either there is a separate contract, or this is one of the best defence bargains in this decade
Interestingly, most or all these items were part of the the strategic items list discussed back in 2012. Only missing are fighters (MiG-29M2 or Su-30MK2).
I was just thinking the same. Simply we dont have any credible info about whats going on other than first contract.
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mack8 wrote:That sounds like too much stuff for just 4.2 billion! Either there is a separate contract, or this is one of the best defence bargains in this decade :)Although, come to think of it, the Mi-35Ms were SUPLIMENTARY to the main contract, so the total value might be around 4.5 billion. Still, 48 Pantsirs, 36 Mi-28NE, 800 Kornets, several thousands T-5000, likely over a hundred each T-90S and BMP-3M, likely several hundreds Igla and so on sounds like a lot of gear for that money.
Interestingly, most or all these items were part of the the strategic items list discussed back in 2012. Only missing are fighters (MiG-29M2 or Su-30MK2).
Btw, wonder if there was/will be a BTR-82A order.
I agree, if the reports are true than I believe Iraq probably added some oil bartering in the background, I know Gazprom is trying to gain back those oil contracts thet lost in the Iraq war.
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That sounds like too much stuff for just 4.2 billion! Either there is a separate contract, or this is one of the best defence bargains in this decade
Cold be these are testing quantities to ensure they perform the way the Iraqis hope/expect.
Later orders of greater numbers to follow...
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yes. we really have no idea about quantities for the items.
I believe the second contract will (has!) include fighter jets. But what type we don't know. Also a GCI / Communications system for the Iraqi Air Defence Command, and radars and SAMs. Once again, no details on types, quantities or other info offered by the official magazine.
There was a $250M "supplement" for the first contract. I believe the contracts "total" nearly $9Bn for both.
Also the Iraqi Navy requested new missile corvettes from Russia... but no update on whether Russia has approved its sale to Iraq.
I believe the second contract will (has!) include fighter jets. But what type we don't know. Also a GCI / Communications system for the Iraqi Air Defence Command, and radars and SAMs. Once again, no details on types, quantities or other info offered by the official magazine.
There was a $250M "supplement" for the first contract. I believe the contracts "total" nearly $9Bn for both.
Also the Iraqi Navy requested new missile corvettes from Russia... but no update on whether Russia has approved its sale to Iraq.
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We know that there will be several contracts and 4.2 marks only first of many.
We know that Iraq wanted to obtain 2000 tanks and we can conclude much more in other armour
We know that Iraq wanted to obtain 2000 tanks and we can conclude much more in other armour
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i think Iraq as a former user MiG-29 could be a potential buyer for MiG-35..