Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

Isos wrote:

George1 wrote:

sheytanelkebir wrote:http://tass.com/world/991466


its almost certain that Iraq will receive S-400s.

excellent! Russia-Iraqi relations remind Al-Qasem era!

What about their airforce ? Do they plan to get some sukhois too ? It would be more usefull for them to have fighters instead of s-400. The cyclone "US freedom" already touched them badly twice I don't think there will be a third US attack so s-400 are not helpfull. 2 or 3 squadron of su-35 and 3 or 4 Nebo radar are more suited for them.

d_taddei2 wrote:

Isos wrote:

George1 wrote:

sheytanelkebir wrote:http://tass.com/world/991466


its almost certain that Iraq will receive S-400s.

excellent! Russia-Iraqi relations remind Al-Qasem era!

What about their airforce ? Do they plan to get some sukhois too ? It would be more usefull for them to have fighters instead of s-400. The cyclone "US freedom" already touched them badly twice I don't think there will be a third US attack so s-400 are not helpfull. 2 or 3 squadron of su-35 and 3 or 4 Nebo radar are more suited for them.

Su-30 and Su-24M2 with gefest is enough for Iraq maybe some mig -29M2. And upgrade it's Su-25 to SM3. Possibly some armed yak-130 Could bolster it's L-159.

1 squadron of Su -30SM
1 squadron of Su -24M2
1 squadron of mig -29M2
Su-25 upgraded to SM3
Some additional armed yak -130 and armed scout such as ansat 2RC. Add this to their current F-16, L-159 cessna 208, T6 Texan,  gazelles, mi-28, and mi-35. You have a capable airforce enough for iraqi needs. Couple that with the potential purchase of S-400 and the pantsir and avenger that they have already and possibly buy some Buk and your done. The iraqi's need more ground attack that air defence and interceptor there isn't a massive threat from the air so what I've mentioned above I think is enough.

d_taddei2 wrote:

Isos wrote:

George1 wrote:

sheytanelkebir wrote:http://tass.com/world/991466


its almost certain that Iraq will receive S-400s.

excellent! Russia-Iraqi relations remind Al-Qasem era!

What about their airforce ? Do they plan to get some sukhois too ? It would be more usefull for them to have fighters instead of s-400. The cyclone "US freedom" already touched them badly twice I don't think there will be a third US attack so s-400 are not helpfull. 2 or 3 squadron of su-35 and 3 or 4 Nebo radar are more suited for them.

Su-30 and Su-24M2 with gefest is enough for Iraq maybe some mig -29M2. And upgrade it's Su-25 to SM3. Possibly some armed yak-130 Could bolster it's L-159.

1 squadron of Su -30SM
1 squadron of Su -24M2
1 squadron of mig -29M2
Su-25 upgraded to SM3
Some additional armed yak -130 and armed scout such as ansat 2RC. Add this to their current F-16, L-159 cessna 208, T6 Texan,  gazelles, mi-28, and mi-35. You have a capable airforce enough for iraqi needs. Couple that with the potential purchase of S-400 and the pantsir and avenger that they have already and possibly buy some Buk and your done. The iraqi's need more ground attack that air defence and interceptor there isn't a massive threat from the air so what I've mentioned above I think is enough.

sheytanelkebir wrote:[
So:
24x SU-35
5x S-400 batteries
5x Russian origin long range radars

about $6Bn or so in total?

George1 wrote:MiG-35 would be ideal for Iraq

Isos wrote:

sheytanelkebir wrote:[
So:
24x SU-35
5x S-400 batteries
5x Russian origin long range radars

about $6Bn or so in total?

Much more with equipment and training ...I didn't know they had f-16 without air to air capabilities. How much did USA made them pay ? It wouldn't surprise me if it was 20 or 30 billion ...

George1 wrote:Russia to equip Iraqi armored brigade

Iraq is Russia's traditional partner, presidential aide for military and technical cooperation Vladimir Kozhin noted

MOSCOW, March 12. /TASS/. Russia is supplying equipment to one of Iraqi armored brigades, presidential aide for military and technical cooperation Vladimir Kozhin said on Monday.

"Iraq is our traditional partner and it has been boosting its potential by ordering our equipment. Today we are equipping there an entire armored brigade, our equipment is supplied there," Kozhin told the Rossiya 24 TV channel.

Iraqi Chief of General Staff Osman Ganimi said on February 20 that Iraq’s Defense Ministry had received the first batch of 36 T-90 S tanks under a military contract with Russia. By late April, the country will receive another 37 vehicles as part of the contract with the aim of "increasing combat capacity of armored troops."


More:
http://tass.com/defense/993528

dino00 wrote:Iraq to purchase Russia's S-400 missile systems

More:
http://tass.com/defense/1058382

AlfaT8 wrote:

dino00 wrote:Iraq to purchase Russia's S-400 missile systems

More:
http://tass.com/defense/1058382

Clearly someone else is paying for this, so they can get access to this system.
Russia would best not do this, unless they want to compromise all their allies.

AlfaT8 wrote:

dino00 wrote:Iraq to purchase Russia's S-400 missile systems

More:
http://tass.com/defense/1058382

Clearly someone else is paying for this, so they can get access to this system.
Russia would best not do this, unless they want to compromise all their allies.

Isos wrote:
ELINT News
@ELINTNews
·
2h
#UPDATE: Iraq’s Ambassador in Tehran: We are negotiating with Russia to buy the S-300 air defence system

Iraq submits request to purchase Russian S-400 system despite US threats

The Parliamentary Security and Defence Committee of Iraq submitted a detailed study requesting the purchase of Russian long-range, surface-to-air S-400 missile defence systems for the consideration of the country’s caretaker prime minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi on 18 April.

“The issue has already been discussed with relevant figures at the General Command of Armed Forces, and now awaits the prime minister’s agreement,” committee member Badr al-Ziyadi was quoted as saying by the Arabic-language newspaper al-Sabaah.

As he underscored the country’s need to enhance its defence capabilities, the parliamentarian explained that the acquisition of the S-400 missile system could be finalised after ratification of the deal by the new government that succeeds the current caretaker one, adding his parliamentary committee “will support the next Iraqi government’s decisions in this regard, and will present relevant proposals and pieces of advice to it”

“The approval to acquire such a sophisticated system requires large financial allocations and a political decision in order to diversify the sources to get the weapons as we cannot just rely on the Western camp, but rather need to incline towards the Eastern camp as well,” said Ziyadi.

In a number of previous instances, the Iraqi lawmaker had gone on record as voicing concerns over attempts to pressure Baghdad to forgo signing arms contracts with other states.

Thus, last month the Iraqi lawmaker had revealed that US and Israeli arms companies were urging his government to refrain from negotiating the purchase of sophisticated military equipment with other countries.

“There are companies and traders pushing to prevent Iraq from concluding contracts to purchase weapons from developed countries,” he was cited by the Arabic-language al-Maalomah news agency as saying on 18 March.

Earlier, on 20 January, Badr al-Ziyadi said Baghdad, in a bid to boost its security from any possible aggression, was mulling dispatching delegations to a number of countries to negotiate the procurement of advanced air defence missile systems.

“The delegations intend to visit countries like Russia, China and Ukraine to negotiate the purchase of modern systems to protect Iraq’s airspace… The Iraqi parliament is right now forming a joint executive and legislative delegation to visit developed countries and sign contracts on procuring advanced weapons,” al-Sabaah daily quoted the official as saying.

Baghdad has been considering buying Russian S-400 missile systems as concerns mount that Washington might withdraw support for Iraq, the Wall Street Journal quoted Karim Elaiwi, a member of the Iraqi parliament’s Security and Defence Committee as saying in January 2020.

“We are talking to Russia about the S-400 missiles but no contracts have been signed yet. We need to get these missiles, especially after Americans have disappointed us many times by not helping us in getting proper weapons,” said Elaiwi.

The move was confirmed by Abdul Khaleq al-Azzawi, another Iraqi parliament defence committee member, who said:

“We authorised the [Iraqi] Prime Minister to get air defence weapons from any country he wants and we authorised him to spend the money for it, from any country. From Russia or anyone.”

The Iraqi moves came amid heightened tensions between Iraq and Washington that were exacerbated after the American military on 3 January launched a drone attack that killed Iranian General Qassem Soleimani, the commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ elite Quds Force, near Baghdad International Airport.

George1 wrote:

Iraq submits request to purchase Russian S-400 system despite US threats

The Parliamentary Security and Defence Committee of Iraq submitted a detailed study requesting the purchase of Russian long-range, surface-to-air S-400 missile defence systems for the consideration of the country’s caretaker prime minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi on 18 April.

“The issue has already been discussed with relevant figures at the General Command of Armed Forces, and now awaits the prime minister’s agreement,” committee member Badr al-Ziyadi was quoted as saying by the Arabic-language newspaper al-Sabaah.

As he underscored the country’s need to enhance its defence capabilities, the parliamentarian explained that the acquisition of the S-400 missile system could be finalised after ratification of the deal by the new government that succeeds the current caretaker one, adding his parliamentary committee “will support the next Iraqi government’s decisions in this regard, and will present relevant proposals and pieces of advice to it”

“The approval to acquire such a sophisticated system requires large financial allocations and a political decision in order to diversify the sources to get the weapons as we cannot just rely on the Western camp, but rather need to incline towards the Eastern camp as well,” said Ziyadi.

In a number of previous instances, the Iraqi lawmaker had gone on record as voicing concerns over attempts to pressure Baghdad to forgo signing arms contracts with other states.

Thus, last month the Iraqi lawmaker had revealed that US and Israeli arms companies were urging his government to refrain from negotiating the purchase of sophisticated military equipment with other countries.

“There are companies and traders pushing to prevent Iraq from concluding contracts to purchase weapons from developed countries,” he was cited by the Arabic-language al-Maalomah news agency as saying on 18 March.

Earlier, on 20 January, Badr al-Ziyadi said Baghdad, in a bid to boost its security from any possible aggression, was mulling dispatching delegations to a number of countries to negotiate the procurement of advanced air defence missile systems.

“The delegations intend to visit countries like Russia, China and Ukraine to negotiate the purchase of modern systems to protect Iraq’s airspace… The Iraqi parliament is right now forming a joint executive and legislative delegation to visit developed countries and sign contracts on procuring advanced weapons,” al-Sabaah daily quoted the official as saying.

Baghdad has been considering buying Russian S-400 missile systems as concerns mount that Washington might withdraw support for Iraq, the Wall Street Journal quoted Karim Elaiwi, a member of the Iraqi parliament’s Security and Defence Committee as saying in January 2020.

“We are talking to Russia about the S-400 missiles but no contracts have been signed yet. We need to get these missiles, especially after Americans have disappointed us many times by not helping us in getting proper weapons,” said Elaiwi.

The move was confirmed by Abdul Khaleq al-Azzawi, another Iraqi parliament defence committee member, who said:

“We authorised the [Iraqi] Prime Minister to get air defence weapons from any country he wants and we authorised him to spend the money for it, from any country. From Russia or anyone.”

The Iraqi moves came amid heightened tensions between Iraq and Washington that were exacerbated after the American military on 3 January launched a drone attack that killed Iranian General Qassem Soleimani, the commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ elite Quds Force, near Baghdad International Airport.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iraq-submits-request-to-purchase-russian-s-400-system-despite-us-threats/

magnumcromagnon wrote:

George1 wrote:

Iraq submits request to purchase Russian S-400 system despite US threats

The Parliamentary Security and Defence Committee of Iraq submitted a detailed study requesting the purchase of Russian long-range, surface-to-air S-400 missile defence systems for the consideration of the country’s caretaker prime minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi on 18 April.

“The issue has already been discussed with relevant figures at the General Command of Armed Forces, and now awaits the prime minister’s agreement,” committee member Badr al-Ziyadi was quoted as saying by the Arabic-language newspaper al-Sabaah.

As he underscored the country’s need to enhance its defence capabilities, the parliamentarian explained that the acquisition of the S-400 missile system could be finalised after ratification of the deal by the new government that succeeds the current caretaker one, adding his parliamentary committee “will support the next Iraqi government’s decisions in this regard, and will present relevant proposals and pieces of advice to it”

“The approval to acquire such a sophisticated system requires large financial allocations and a political decision in order to diversify the sources to get the weapons as we cannot just rely on the Western camp, but rather need to incline towards the Eastern camp as well,” said Ziyadi.

In a number of previous instances, the Iraqi lawmaker had gone on record as voicing concerns over attempts to pressure Baghdad to forgo signing arms contracts with other states.

Thus, last month the Iraqi lawmaker had revealed that US and Israeli arms companies were urging his government to refrain from negotiating the purchase of sophisticated military equipment with other countries.

“There are companies and traders pushing to prevent Iraq from concluding contracts to purchase weapons from developed countries,” he was cited by the Arabic-language al-Maalomah news agency as saying on 18 March.

Earlier, on 20 January, Badr al-Ziyadi said Baghdad, in a bid to boost its security from any possible aggression, was mulling dispatching delegations to a number of countries to negotiate the procurement of advanced air defence missile systems.

“The delegations intend to visit countries like Russia, China and Ukraine to negotiate the purchase of modern systems to protect Iraq’s airspace… The Iraqi parliament is right now forming a joint executive and legislative delegation to visit developed countries and sign contracts on procuring advanced weapons,” al-Sabaah daily quoted the official as saying.

Baghdad has been considering buying Russian S-400 missile systems as concerns mount that Washington might withdraw support for Iraq, the Wall Street Journal quoted Karim Elaiwi, a member of the Iraqi parliament’s Security and Defence Committee as saying in January 2020.

“We are talking to Russia about the S-400 missiles but no contracts have been signed yet. We need to get these missiles, especially after Americans have disappointed us many times by not helping us in getting proper weapons,” said Elaiwi.

The move was confirmed by Abdul Khaleq al-Azzawi, another Iraqi parliament defence committee member, who said:

“We authorised the [Iraqi] Prime Minister to get air defence weapons from any country he wants and we authorised him to spend the money for it, from any country. From Russia or anyone.”

The Iraqi moves came amid heightened tensions between Iraq and Washington that were exacerbated after the American military on 3 January launched a drone attack that killed Iranian General Qassem Soleimani, the commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ elite Quds Force, near Baghdad International Airport.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iraq-submits-request-to-purchase-russian-s-400-system-despite-us-threats/

What is the Pentagon gonna do? They're already occupying Iraq, they have no influence on Iran so there's no reason from the Persians to prevent the transfer of S-400's through the Caspian Sea. Do they straight up attack parliament, proving that their imperialist cowards? That would mean the gloves are off on the personnel stationed in Iraq. What will likely happen is that they'll have combined IAD with Iran, and give them the option to respectfully bow out and walk away without an incident.

Viktor wrote:
Eventually it will happen but the process will be gradual. US needs to pour lots of ressources into a country they are not welcomed anymore so it could have its ways for no obvious

gain as they matrix of value commands and to Iran now after US "liberation" it is a friendly neighbouring state where stronger relation are a function of personal relations and time

unlike billions and billions of $ and threats and blackmail and so Smile

Iraq has stated that it wants a long range air defense system that is not western produced so independence from west is what is its primarily objective here. Iraq also views Russia

as its ally as it already saved Bagdad once by being over run by ISIS by flamethrower supply from its own stash or China from where Iraq is viewed in near term as next in line in its

one road one belt project so it awaits with lots of cash ready to invest.