Ukrainian Ground Forces:

Ukrainian Oplot tank was named the best among major armored vehicles of the world.
As reported by Censor.NET, Russian military experts modeled a virtual tank range and placed 12 major tank models of the world on it. The computer system ranked a Pakistani tank the worst, and named the Ukrainian Oplot tank made in Kharkiv the safest for a crew and most dangerous in a headlong collision.

GarryB wrote:Which raises another aspect of the INF treaty issue neither the Ukraine nor China are bound by it, so the Ukraine could make China some 2,000km range cruise missile or ballistic missiles... based on a small truck.

GarryB wrote:The MCTR is to prevent the spread of sophisticated modern missile technology from spreading... China already has missile technology that exceeds 300km in range and 500kgs in payload so it would not apply.

GarryB wrote:Two main aspects to consider.... first it could be claimed that China already has missiles capable of 2,000km range and over 500kgs payload so the MCTR provisions don't make much sense in this case.... and second the Ukraine is now Americas bitch so it can do no wrong...

Russia could complain but the sale of missiles from the Ukraine to China is a wonderful development that will improve the security and stability in the region. If it was a Russia system of course it would be a worrisome development that would threaten stability and security in the region...

You know the BS... 

Whether China has 2000km+ range missiles or not doesn't matter, you purposed above that Ukraine could export such missiles to China since they’re not bound to INF, i simply stated that MTCR is still in play, so that isn't gonna happen.

GarryB wrote:

Whether China has 2000km+ range missiles or not doesn't matter, you purposed above that Ukraine could export such missiles to China since they’re not bound to INF, i simply stated that MTCR is still in play, so that isn't gonna happen.

And what I am saying is that the MTCR is about limiting the spread of missile technology to countries that don't already possess it... the horse has already bolted in this case so MTCR does not apply.

For the same reason the US can sell pretty much anything to the UK.

The MTCR Guidelines restrict transfers of "missiles" -- defined as rocket systems (including ballistic missiles, space launch vehicles, and sounding rockets) and unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) systems (including cruise missiles, target drones, and reconnaissance drones) capable of delivering weapons of mass destruction (WMD) -- and their related equipment and technology. The Regime places particular focus on unmanned delivery systems capable of delivering a payload of at least 500 kg to a distance of at least 300 km, so called "Category I" or "MTCR-class" systems.

The MTCR Annex of controlled items is divided into two sections:

Category I Annex items include complete rocket and unmanned air vehicle (i.e., "missile") systems, capable of delivering a payload of at least 500 kg to a range of at least 300 km, and their major complete subsystems, production facilities, and related technology. Exports of Category I items are subject to a strong presumption of denial, except that transfers of specially designed production facilities for Category I items are expressly prohibited.

Category II Annex items include propulsion and propellant components, launch and ground support equipment, various other missile-related components, and related technology, as well as certain other missile systems. Exports of Category II items are subject to case-by-case review against specified nonproliferation factors, and are subject to a strong presumption of denial if the system is intended for WMD delivery.

MTCR export controls are not bans but regulatory efforts by individual Partners to prevent transfers of items that could contribute to delivery systems for WMD. Licensing such exports is consistent with the MTCR’s goal of curbing the flow of missile equipment and technology worldwide.

The MTCR Guidelines are open to all nations to implement, whether or not they are MTCR Partners. The United States encourages all governments to unilaterally adhere to the Guidelines.

http://www.state.gov/t/isn/rls/fs/120017.htm

The MTCR Guidelines are open to all nations to implement, whether or not they are MTCR Partners. The United States encourages all governments to unilaterally adhere to the Guidelines.

GarryB wrote:

The MTCR Guidelines are open to all nations to implement, whether or not they are MTCR Partners. The United States encourages all governments to unilaterally adhere to the Guidelines.

US Government also encourages all governments to impose sanctions on Russia... and to buy US made... and to say no to drugs... except the over priced legal drugs they sell.

The military handed tanks T-80, refurbished in Kharkiv
Anatoly majeure Published 07/13/2015

Kharkiv plant modernized 8 armored tanks T-80 fighters for the 95th Mechanized Brigade. Specialists of the company restored buildings and towers and tanks equipped with armor.