Russian Auto Industry

Ministry of Industry: to support the car industry should be 27.2 billion rubles for 3 years

Couple of news:

Avtovaz Lada Vesta in CNG form

Ford has started producing cars with engines of the Russian manufacture

Kaliningrad enterprise "Avtotor" started assembling Hyundai Elantra

Started production of "Gazelle Next» with a more powerful engine

"GAZ Group" has launched serial production of "Gazelle NEXT» with all-metal body

UAZ Patriot - universal offroad vehicle

New Patriot modified on request by Russian army will be avialable for civilian market too. Patriot passed all Russian army tests and will soon enter full scale production said Artjom Zoltikov chief of department for cooperation with state structures on Interpolitex. Difference between civilian and military Patriot is in chasis, full steel forged rims, it lacks roof baggage holders, instead it will have holders for fuel, oil, water, weapons and hand tools (axes, shovels).



Judging by informations given by central army region of Minstry of Defence they already use 30 UAZ-3163 vehicles which replaced older UAZ platforms. It includes Patriot-Okapi intelligence gathering platform (radar, TV channel, Thermal channel - http://www.gorizontrostov.ru/ru/uaz.html)



New Patriot was modified that way so it can survive exploatation in most harash conditions including Arctic. Patriot can serve as platfom for wide range of weapons and systems, like command vehicle, intelligence gathering, ATGM launcher up to weight of 1t. When Compared to Hummer, Patriot offers better offroad capabilities and exploatation on bad roads. It will be used to fill gaps in roles made by Tigr platform, using it for tasks which for Tigr is an overkil (not literall translation here ). For now its not offered for export.

Sources:

http://www.crveneberetke.com/uaz-patriot-univerzalno-terensko-vozilo-video/
http://russia-insider.com/en/business/russias-answer-humvee-uaz-start-production-patriot-suv/ri10885

Feast your eyes on LADA XRAY, sales start February 2016.







http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/70097/

PapaDragon wrote:
Feast your eyes on LADA XRAY, sales start February 2016.
http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/70097/

Bout bloody time, btw is there any electric lada under dev??

SEZ “Togliatti” opened up production for engine parts - My Site English
Sdelanounas Link

essentially, the plant is just building various parts for engines. And many parts are to be exported to Turkey, Greece and others through Renault.

AlfaT8 wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
Feast your eyes on LADA XRAY, sales start February 2016.
http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/70097/

Bout bloody time, btw is there any electric lada under dev??

Lada Ellada. Ugly looking thing.

sepheronx wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
Feast your eyes on LADA XRAY, sales start February 2016.
http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/70097/

Bout bloody time, btw is there any electric lada under dev??

Lada Ellada.  Ugly looking thing.

I wouldn't say ugly, if anything it looks average, nothing really stands out, anyway it's an old design from 2012 if they do bring it to fruition it'll most likly be updated to XRAY desing.

No idea really. I think that yes they are working on one as I recall reading on how Lada was investing R&D in electric automobiles. But for Russia, Electric is kinda useless besides a city vehicle. Outside a city and it becomes a problem. CNG automobile like the one being touted for Lada Vesta on the other hand makes so much sense.

sepheronx wrote:No idea really.  I think that yes they are working on one as I recall reading on how Lada was investing R&D in electric automobiles.  But for Russia, Electric is kinda useless besides a city vehicle.  Outside a city and it becomes a problem.  CNG automobile like the one being touted for Lada Vesta on the other hand makes so much sense.

Yea, in Russia electric would be pretty useless, a hybrid would make more sense, any dev work on those??

When petrol/diesel is so cheap in Russia who in their right fucking mind would buy hybrids? Should I even begin about their reliability?

Regular wrote:When petrol/diesel is so cheap in Russia who in their right fucking mind would buy hybrids? Should I even begin about their reliability?

Actually the Russian gasoline price is close to the US price. It is Venezuela and Saudi Arabia that have super cheap subsidized prices.

http://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/

Why bother with hybrids when conventional fuels are cheap?

Because they might not always be so cheap.

Because there is money in alternative technologies that might end up even cheaper and more practical.

Because new technology is transferable and can be used for previously unthought of applications.

At high latitudes solar power might not be much use during winter, but during summer it is quite useful for a variety of applications... so on its own it might not be so great but in combination with perhaps wind generation it could be a fairly useful all year round source of free energy for some applications.

AlfaT8 wrote:

sepheronx wrote:No idea really.  I think that yes they are working on one as I recall reading on how Lada was investing R&D in electric automobiles.  But for Russia, Electric is kinda useless besides a city vehicle.  Outside a city and it becomes a problem.  CNG automobile like the one being touted for Lada Vesta on the other hand makes so much sense.

Yea, in Russia electric would be pretty useless, a hybrid would make more sense, any dev work on those??

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2015/10/20151012-lada.html

I posted it earlier. A CNG/Petrol dual tank Lada Vesta with rated 1000KM distance on full tank. CNG is roughly 4x cheaper per L and thus a demand for automobiles to run off of it. As KVS pointed out, there are no subsidies to petrol and thus prices are higher (but Euro5 is much better quality than ours in North America) and CNG is dirt cheap. So long as there are CNG tanks at the petrol stations throughout the country (like propane here), then it only makes sense. Dual tank of just CNG would also work very well with similar performance.

sepheronx wrote:No idea really.  I think that yes they are working on one as I recall reading on how Lada was investing R&D in electric automobiles.  But for Russia, Electric is kinda useless besides a city vehicle.  Outside a city and it becomes a problem.  CNG automobile like the one being touted for Lada Vesta on the other hand makes so much sense.

not only cheaper and less polluting ,it would free up more oil for export and oil is more profitable then gas.
unlike liquid petrol gas who switch from petrol to gas after few minutes in winter because evaporator needs to heat up ,cng cars switch from petrol to cng after 10 sec in every wheather, since cng is already in gas state in the tank. (all cars start up with petrol then switch to other fuel.)

sepheronx wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:

sepheronx wrote:No idea really.  I think that yes they are working on one as I recall reading on how Lada was investing R&D in electric automobiles.  But for Russia, Electric is kinda useless besides a city vehicle.  Outside a city and it becomes a problem.  CNG automobile like the one being touted for Lada Vesta on the other hand makes so much sense.

Yea, in Russia electric would be pretty useless, a hybrid would make more sense, any dev work on those??

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2015/10/20151012-lada.html

I posted it earlier. A CNG/Petrol dual tank Lada Vesta with rated 1000KM distance on full tank.  CNG is roughly 4x cheaper per L and thus a demand for automobiles to run off of it.  As KVS pointed out, there are no subsidies to petrol and thus prices are higher (but Euro5 is much better quality than ours in North America) and CNG is dirt cheap.  So long as there are CNG tanks at the petrol stations throughout the country (like propane here), then it only makes sense.  Dual tank of just CNG would also work very well with similar performance.

autonomy on cng is low but russia has massive natural gas infrastructure , then you only need compressor stations -easy to link up to pipelines, and you can have NG pumps everywhere.

Well this has turned into an interesting discussion, anyway petrol/CNG hybrid seems like a good idea, specially since it will lead to the development of a gas infrastructure that will later be modified for hydrogen.

I wonder whats up with the high number of Dislikes in the video

Project Canada wrote:I wonder whats up with the high number of Dislikes in the video

Lack of subtitles maybe (really wanna know what there talking about, but no subs, so dislike)

Project Canada wrote:


I wonder whats up with the high number of Dislikes in the video

Check comments, people are disappointed with fact its basically french design.