PAK-DA: News

GunshipDemocracy wrote:So either Piotr Butowski was using as base fanboys' art or fanboys knew something we dont

Austin wrote:PAK DA will be cheaper than Tu-160, but will be able to replace all long-range aircraft

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http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4730201

"One of the main tasks assigned by the military department to the creators of the long-range aviation complex of the long-range aviation (PAK DA) is to ensure that the new aircraft functions as all three current missile carriers (Tu-160, Tu-95MS and Tu-22M3) much cheaper than the Tu-160, "- said the agency's interlocutor. According to him, "the tactical and technical assignment for the PAK DA is approved by the military, in the near future, with the conclusion of the contract, the production of design documentation will begin, with the subsequent manufacture of prototypes."

Reducing the cost of development, production and operation of PAK DA will be partly facilitated by the fact that this aircraft will be subsonic.
The specialist did not specify the estimated value of the PAK YES, which appears in the customer's terms of reference.

The cost of Tu-160

Expert estimates of the cost of the Tu-160 aircraft range from $ 250 to $ 600 million (in 1993, the media called the sum of 6 billion rubles, which at the time corresponded to approximately $ 600 million). One hour of the missile carrier's flight (without combat use) costs, according to official figures for 2008, 580 thousand rubles (about $ 23.3 thousand). The cost of the American B-1B bomber, close to the Tu-160 for performance, is $ 317 million, the flight hour costs $ 57.8 thousand.

Isos wrote:What is "PAK YES" ?

George1 wrote:

Isos wrote:What is "PAK YES" ?

PAK-DA. It comes out "YES" in the google translation (da=yes)   , i will fix it

PapaDragon wrote:

Arctic_Fox wrote:not sure if i like this idea of "Smaller, cheaper and subsonic", seems like a downgrade to me in comparison with Tu-160.

They are still getting Tu-160s so no problems

Besides something has to do the low grade work, they can't run expensive birds for everything

Big_Gazza wrote:

GunshipDemocracy wrote:So either Piotr Butowski was using as base fanboys' art or fanboys knew something we dont

I always felt it looked too much like a Manta Ray to be taken seriously...

archangelski wrote:

More in line with the TsAGI model of a Tupolev design :

Isos wrote:What is "PAK YES" ?

GarryB wrote:

not sure if i like this idea of "Smaller, cheaper and subsonic", seems like a downgrade to me in comparison with Tu-160.

Affordable makes sense because they can have more in service...

Do you think the A-10 and Su-25 are rubbish because they are subsonic?

All those supersonic fighters and no supersonic inflight refuelling aircraft...

Supersonic costs money... why make a stand off cruise missile carrier supersonic?

Makes rather more sense to make the missiles hypersonic...

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

GarryB wrote:Shame they don't list the upgrades...

They actually did


in short:
Crew: 2 pilots
Engines same as Tu-160M2 - NK-32
avionics - based on 160M2 (I presume netcentric with new navigation to chase CVBGs)

Weaposn: Kh-32, Kindzhal, X-50 (scaled down X-101) and Gzur ( Ma-8 missile) both x6 and with range   ~1500 km (this form BMPD)

Attention: air-frame also will be modified (didn't say to what degree though)
Build in refueling bar too      


refurbished: 36 units. Not bad to fend off NTO fleet. + 50 Tu-160M2.






Updated missile carrier Tu-22M3M will receive a rigging Tu-160

https://rg.ru/2018/04/28/reg-pfo/obnovlennyj-raketonosec-tu-22m3m-poluchit-osnastku-tu-160.html

The creation of a deeply modernized bomber-missile carrier Tu-22M3M is nearing completion, the head of the Tupolev company Alexander Konyukhov said.

- On the prototype of a deeply modernized missile carrier, assembly work and preparations for the first take-off are being completed . It is planned for the third quarter of 2018. In the same year, modernization of combat aircraft will begin, "Interfax quotes Konyukhov .

The updated Tu-22 will receive new, more economical and durable engines, as well as on-board electronics, unified with the "older brother", the strategic missile carrier Tu-160. In particular, the aircraft will have a system of space communications and the ability to receive in-flight target designation - including from mobile sea and land terminals. Given that the main task of the Tu-22 is still hunting for aircraft carriers, the ability to take on-the-fly operational information about their whereabouts will not be superfluous. Another innovation will be the bar for refueling the aircraft in the air - this option will increase the already considerable combat radius of the missile carrier - with new engines the flight range of the Tu-22M3M will be almost 10 thousand kilometers.

In parallel with the modernization of the aircraft, a new weapon is being developed for him. The upgraded electronics will allow the aircraft to use the Kh-32, Kh-55, Kh-555, Kh-101/102 missiles, and prospective Kh-50, GZUR and Dagger .

"Modernization will significantly prolong the service life of Tu-22M family aircraft," Konyukhov stressed. According to open sources, Russia has more than 100 aircraft of this type.

Collecting new cars and modernizing the drill will be in Kazan, where at the Gorbunov Aircraft Plant there are at least four Tu-22 gliders preserved from the Soviet reserve. In addition, the company has accumulated experience in restoring production of Tu-160. The first "White Swan" from the new series  climbed into the sky in early 2018.

Russia will raise into the sky  a new missile carrier

The first flight of the upgraded long-range missile carrier Tu-22M3M is scheduled for August 2018, RIA Novosti reported at the Kazan aircraft plant.

https://rg.ru/2018/04/25/reg-pfo/rossiia-podnimet-v-nebo-novyj-raketonosec.html

"We intend to lift the Tu-22M3M in the air in August," the company representative said.

Photo: Grigory Sysoev / RIA Novosti
Preparation of the Su-57 for the Victory Parade was shot on video
Deep modernization and the resumption of the mass production of the most massive long-range aircraft was laid in the State Program of Armaments for 2018-2027. The aircraft is updated according to the scheme used for the "older brother" Tu-160: from the old Tu-22M, there is only a glider (and the one is modified).

Instead of the regular NK-25 engines, the missile carrier will receive the upgraded Tu-160 power units: with a similar thrust, they are more durable and much more economical - the range of the upgraded Tu-22 will grow by one and a half times. The aircraft will receive a retractable bar for refueling in the air and an on-board electronics similar to the Tu-160M2. The crew

will be reduced from four to two people.

In the arsenal of the missile carrier will enter as available weapons of destruction: cruise missiles X-55, X-555, X-32, X-101/102, and prospective: Kindzhal , X-50 and GZUR. The weapons compartment is likely to be enlarged. The aircraft will be equipped with a space link to obtain target coordinates in real time - including from portable land and sea terminals.

Collect the updated missile carriers and modernize the combat vehicles will be at the Kazan Aircraft Plant named after Gorbunov, where from the Soviet times at least four unfinished gliders have been preserved. The GPV provides for the modernization of 36 combat aircraft, mass production of the Tu-22M3M is planned to be deployed in the mid-1920s at a rate of three or four aircraft per year.

Hole wrote:You know that the Il-38 and Tu-142 are anti-submarine warfare aircraft?
Why should someone use a supersonic plane for ASW?
There´s no need for that!

Hole wrote:You know that the Il-38 and Tu-142 are anti-submarine warfare aircraft?
Why should someone use a supersonic plane for ASW?
There´s no need for that!