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RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

etaepsilonk

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etaepsilonk Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:08 pm

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Viktor wrote:Nice

most probably related to huge problems regarding construction of French subs

Indian Navy wants to buy Russia's two submarines of Project 677

If that's true, and considering the Rafale deal souring, and considering the Mistral deal souring...could this be the death nail for the French arms industry?

What about thales?

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Post n°152

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magnumcromagnon Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:03 pm

etaepsilonk wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Viktor wrote:Nice

most probably related to huge problems regarding construction of French subs

Indian Navy wants to buy Russia's two submarines of Project 677

If that's true, and considering the Rafale deal souring, and considering the Mistral deal souring...could this be the death nail for the French arms industry?

What about thales?

One or two significant French defense firms may survive, but many won't.

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Post n°153

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Hachimoto Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:30 pm

magnumcromagnon wrote:

etaepsilonk wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Viktor wrote:Nice

most probably related to huge problems regarding construction of French subs

Indian Navy wants to buy Russia's two submarines of Project 677

If that's true, and considering the Rafale deal souring, and considering the Mistral deal souring...could this be the death nail for the French arms industry?

What about thales?

One or two significant French defense firms may survive, but many won't.

One or two !!!

Are you serious ? French navy technologie is about to die ? can you explain why ? lack of export market ? lack of knowledge ?

Maybe they are not superb when it comes to subs, but in term of surface ships we should be realistic they got the best tech around .

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magnumcromagnon Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:32 am

Hachimoto wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

etaepsilonk wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Viktor wrote:Nice

most probably related to huge problems regarding construction of French subs

Indian Navy wants to buy Russia's two submarines of Project 677

If that's true, and considering the Rafale deal souring, and considering the Mistral deal souring...could this be the death nail for the French arms industry?

What about thales?

One or two significant French defense firms may survive, but many won't.

One or two !!!

Are you serious ? French navy technologie is about to die ? can you explain why ? lack of export market ? lack of knowledge ?

Maybe they are not superb when it comes to subs, but in term of surface ships we should be realistic they got the best tech around .

It's not that they lack knowledge, but the French leadership (if you can call it that) lacks courage. They lack the capability to tell America to fight their own battles, if the Mistral deal fizzles this may signal to the world, specifically India a long time ally of Russia, that the French military industry is an unreliable supplier (the U.S. has put sanctions on India and threaten India militarily in the past) and a country like India which is already upset that the Rafale deal is souring, may not buy from France and may cancel the deal all together...which translates to a loss of tens of billions of Dollars USD, and might translate to hundreds of billions in the next 2-to-3 decades.

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Sujoy Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:15 pm

Viktor wrote:Nice

most probably related to huge problems regarding construction of French subs

Indian Navy wants to buy Russia's two submarines of Project 677

Yes, this indeed is very good news Viktor .

The Indian Navy would want the Amur to fire the BRAHMOS and if Rubin can make that adjustment then this would be a great deal.

I suspect though that the Amur will be purchased/leased to replace the Kilo and not as a replacement for the Scorpene .

I would prefer a BUY over a LEASE .

magnumcromagnon wrote:and a country like India which is already upset that the Rafale deal is souring, may not buy from France and may cancel the deal all together...which translates to a loss of tens of billions

Actually the Rafale deal is going through . The Defense Minister has already announced it .

However, the SAM deal with France will probably not see the light of the day as the Indian Air Force is happy with Akash .

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/rs-30-000-cr-indo-french-missile-plan-in-deep-waters/article1-1247877.aspx

Re Mistral , France has already clarified that it is going ahead with the sale to Russia

http://en.ria.ru/news/20140730/191477624/Mistral-Deal-With-Russia-Unaffected-by-Sanctions--French.html

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Viktor Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:26 pm

Nice

two new deals in preparation

UAC is preparing a contract to develop a fighter FGFA

India plans to buy 3 radar reconnaissance aircrafts A-50 in Russia

and one done deal

Russia and India have begun to develop a cruise missile "Brahmos mini"

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Sujoy Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:11 pm

Viktor wrote:Nice

two new deals in preparation

UAC is preparing a contract to develop a fighter FGFA

India plans to buy 3 radar reconnaissance aircrafts A-50 in Russia

and one done deal

Russia and India have begun to develop a cruise missile "Brahmos mini"

Good links Viktor . And it is related to the desire on the part of India & Russia to trade in their own currencies , that is Rupee and Rouble .

http://in.rbth.com/economics/2014/08/05/india_russia_look_to_trade_in_rupees_roubles_37189.html

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1140813/jsp/nation/story_18716412.jsp#.U-5MQ-OSyfk

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Sujoy Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:05 pm

Russia to overhaul 5 IL 38SD for the Indian Navy

http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/745127

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George1 Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:08 am

India plans to purchase three A-50 AWACS aircraft
Russian Aviaton » Thursday August 21, 2014 12:29 MSK

India plans to purchase three Russian A-50 AWACS aircraft, ITAR-TASS reports with reference to a source close to the Military-Industrial Commission of Russian Federation. In 2003 India placed an order for three A-50 jets; the contract was implemented in 2010.

"We are considering the possibility of delivering three more A-50 aircraft to India; the negotiations are in progress", - the source said. He didn’t unveil possible date of signing the contract.

According to the source, the jets will feature the same configuration as the ones delivered under the contract signed in 2003. The source added that upon implementation of that contract India signed a contract for maintenance of its A-50 aircraft. The contract is being implemented successfully with the participation of Russian specialists.

A-50 was derived from Il-76MD aircraft and put into service in 1989. It is designed for detecting and tracking air targets and surface ships, alerting the command posts of automated systems and controlling other aircraft during targeting.

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George1 Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:52 am

Sukhoi Holding Company to develop a transport aircraft in cooperation with Indian companies
Russian Aviaton » Friday August 22, 2014 03:21 MSK

Sukhoi Holding Company plans to start the development of a multi-role transport aircraft in cooperation with its Indian partners, RIA Novosti reports with reference to the president of United Aircraft Corporation, Mikhail Pogosyan.

"We completed design feasibility study in 2013. Today we are discussing further implementation of this project and development of this aircraft", — Pogosyan said.

According to him, the parties need to agree on the project schedule “following the results of negotiations between us and our Indian colleagues".

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Viktor Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:48 pm

Apparently a done deal thumbsup

Russia Plans to Supply India With A-50 Aircraft – Aircraft Company

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Viktor Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:55 pm

India will modernize its Stela systems with Sosna thumbsup

Anti-aircraft systems "Sosna" get the first India - Military parity

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GarryB Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:29 am

Interesting they have chosen the SOSNA-R to replace the Strela-10M.

The latter is a low cost low emission passive IR guided weapon of modest performance... very much a Soviet Chapparal... though not based on any AAM.

the new missile is much faster, much simpler, with all the target tracking components in the launch vehicle.

The effective range is doubled (10km vs about 5km) and precision and effectiveness sharply increased against a range of targets.

the cost of new vehicles will not make it cheap, but new missiles will be cheap and simple.... if they can get local production of the missiles they could make enormous numbers... the low emissions design and ability to fire while moving make this a very potent system.

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higurashihougi Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:14 pm

India abandon the joint AA defense progam with Ukraina, and choose Russia's Sosna instead.

http://warfiles.ru/show-69050-indiya-otkazalas-ot-ukrainskogo-zrk-v-polzu-rossiyskogo-kompleksa-pvo-sosna.html (Russian)

http://soha.vn/quan-su/an-do-quay-lung-voi-ukraine-nga-vo-duoc-hop-dong-vu-khi-lon-20140925224204431.htm (Vietnamese)

Basically Vladimir Slobodchikova, CEO of Tochmas claimed that the Sosna system will be sold to India in 2015. The test for this system is planned to be completed in October 2014.

The reason why India abandoned the joint project with Ukraina, clearly, is because of the current war in Donbass.

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Russia offers India 3 additional Talwar class frigates

Hongloan Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:37 am

It is almost a done dealt.

http://in.rbth.com/economics/2014/10/20/russia_offers_india_3_additional_talwar_class_frigates_39143.html

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Mike E Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:21 am

Hongloan wrote:It is almost a done dealt.

http://in.rbth.com/economics/2014/10/20/russia_offers_india_3_additional_talwar_class_frigates_39143.html

Great... If India keeps on buying them, it must be a sign that they are a good ship!

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Sujoy Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:48 am

INDIAN GOVERNMENT CLEARS $250 MILLION DEAL FOR URAN MISSILES

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Narendra-Modi-govt-clears-defence-projects-worth-Rs-80000cr/articleshow/44935990.cms

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Sujoy Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:22 pm

ORDINANCE FACTORY BOARD, INDIA AND ROSOBORONEXPORT ENTER INTO ToT FOR MANUFACTURING AMK 339

The Ordnance Factory Board, Kolkata has entered into Transfer of Technology contract with Joint Stock Company Rosoboronexport of Russia for indigenous manufacture of AMK 339 tanks rounds.

This information was given by Minister of State for Defence Rao Inderjit Singh in a written reply to Dr. Chandan Mitra in Rajya Sabha today.

Guys this is a separate contract not to be mixed with a similar deal signed last March

http://pib.nic.in/newsite/PrintRelease.aspx?relid=112381

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George1 Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:12 pm

India Losing Patience With Dassault, May Order More Sukhois

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medo Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:00 pm

Sujoy wrote:

SOC wrote:Are they buying the FLANKERs outright, or is this an addition to the license contract for Nasik?

The technology to manufacture Super Sukhois ( nose-mounted AESA-based MMR & wing-mounted L-band AWESA T/R modules, plus an uprated AL-31FP turbofan with 20% more thrust than what is available now , underbelly-launched BrahMos-1 among others )do not exist in Nashik so they will have to come from Russia. This is the first order for Super Sukhois . A 100 more Super Sukhois will be purchased in tranches . As of now it is expected that the remaining 100 will be manufactured in Nashik.

I think domestic Su-30SM already use those more powerful AL-31FP engines as it is not logical, that Su-30SM have weaker engines than Su-30M2 with AL-31FM1 engines.

Indian Flanker wrote:And these are not Super Sukhois, they are just normally upgraded Flankers (with better NO11M Bars performance etc.).

I wonder if this better Bars-M radar is actually domestic Bars-R for Su-30SM.

Indian Flanker wrote:I don't think we'll see any Super Sukhoi until the AESA technolgy on T-50 completely matures.(don't think HAL will go for Mig-35's AESA version).

I don't think Russia will soon sell their Irbis and AESA from T-50 radars. I think even export AESA radar on export T-50 will be less capable than domestic Irbis radar in Su-35. Too important for RuAF.

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Viktor Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:03 pm

Nice ... this will be the second which togeather with Arihant will make 3 SSN up to 2020 (perhaps if India manages to pop out one or two of the Arihant class and there you go)

India will have to rent Russian nuclear submarine "Sperm Whale"

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George1 Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:14 pm

Russia and India are negotiating the construction of new frigates

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George1 Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:26 pm

India Invites Russian Defense Enterprises to Join 'Make in India' Program

The ambitious Make in India program plans to attract financing to 25 sectors of the economy, with 100 percent direct foreign investments allowed in most areas. The program aims at transforming India into one of the world's industrial leaders.

NEW DELHI, January 21 (Sputnik) — India's Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar invited Russian defense enterprises to participate in a new initiative by the Indian government titled Make in India, the Indian Cabinet said in a statement Wednesday.

"Mr. Parrikar mentioned India's policy of 'Make in India' and sought Russian defence enterprises' participation in a big way," the statement issued after Parrikar's talks with Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu read.

In September 2014, India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi presented to the country's business community the ambitious Make in India project, a program designed to transform the country into one of the world's industrial leaders. Through this initiative, India plans to attract financing to 25 sectors of the economy, from tourism to mining, with 100 percent direct foreign investments allowed in most areas.

A source in India's Defense Ministry told RIA Novosti that Indian defense companies are currently searching for potential Russian partners to cooperate on the new initiative.

On Wednesday, Shoigu visited New Delhi, where he held talks with his Indian counterpart and participated in the 14th meeting of the Inter-Governmental Commission on Military and Technical Cooperation, which aims at boosting Russia's military and counterterrorism cooperation with its South Asian partner.

The defense minister also visited the joint defense enterprise BrahMos Aerospace Limited, where he became acquainted with missile weapons produced by the company.

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Kyo Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:41 pm

Russia ready to supply AIP subs to India in case of tender

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Viktor Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:52 pm

Big one

Russian MiG-29 and Ka-31 will be based on the Indian aircraft carrier

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