Ukrainian Aviation Industry: Discussion

This variant will essentially be a four jet engine powered heavy-medium transport with modernized NATO- compatible western cockpit, slightly enlarged wings, winglets and aerial refueling capabilities.
The An-188 is intended to fill the gap between a C-130 and C-17 while being a direct competitor to the A400M. Plans include incorporating a western engine option along with the D-27 to appeal to western markets and reduce dependency on eastern markets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-70#Variants

Ukraine cannot build the D-27 propfan now as the fan is made by Russian Aerosila. Antonov plans to power the aircraft by Ukraine made Ivchenko Progress D-436 FM turbofan engines, but also have plans to offer western power plants. The turbofan engines will increase the thrust from current 7.5 metric tons (16,534 pounds) to 8.2 metric tons (18,078 pounds) with a fuel consumption of 4600 kg / hour. The An-188 will have capabilities similar to Airbus A400M turboprop airlifter, with its maximum take-off weight of 140 tonnes and maximum payload of 40 tonnes, sitting in between that of the Lockheed Martin C-130J (79/20 tonnes) and the Boeing C-17 (255/75 tonnes) strategic airlifter. The aircraft will have Short Take Off and Landing (STOL) capability and ability to operate from unpaved runways with a length of about 1 km.
In 2017, Turkey canceled development of a dual use regional jet family powered by both turboprop and turbofan engines, based on the German Dornier 328 and 628 aircraft.
http://www.aviationanalysis.net/2018/04/ukraine-offers-turkey-joint-an-188-production.html

An-188, or An-70 "on steroids"
The An-188 aircraft, capable of transporting loads of up to 50 tonnes, are to be an intermediate link between the C-130 Hercules (about 20 tonnes lifting capacity) and C-17 Globemaster III (about 75 tonnes), being an interesting alternative to the turboprop A-400M Atlas. The use of turbojet engines instead of turboprops is to have a positive effect on performance and, above all, on operating costs. ..
There are planned as many as three versions of the powerplants, which due to the arrangement of high-wing with classic, single gondolas:
An-188-100 is to be equipped with four Iwczenko-Progress D-436-148FM engines, also used in An-148/158 passenger aircraft and An-178 transport aircraft.
An-188-110 will have a new type of AI-28 engines, which Iwczenko-Progress is currently working on. They are created as the successor to the D-436 family, but with higher efficiency and lower fuel consumption.
An-188-120 is to be the most "NATO" version, equipped with CFM56-7B CFM International (CFMI) engines with the FADEC digital control system, used in the Boeing 737NG aircraft. ..
The range with a standard load of 20 tons is to reach 7,700 km, more than a thousand km than in the case of An-70 and 1,300 km more than the Airbus A400M. The operational ceiling is to be 12,100 meters and the cruising speed will be over 800 km/h.
As for the transport capabilities, the An-188 will have the flexibility provided by the well-developed two-level An-70 hold. It allows simultaneous transport of 110 soldiers on the upper deck and a wide range of cargo on the lower deck, including large dimensions, containers or pallets. Inside the cargo holds, for example, a Puma helicopter or an armored personnel carrier, and there is still room for over 40 soldiers with full equipment. From the deck, it will be possible to drop with the use of parachutes, e.g. 130 soldiers and vehicles or 20 tons of cargo on pallets. The total space of the holds is over 400 m 3 , which can be filled with 50 tons of cargo or 300 soldiers.
While the real performance will be close to the assumed level, the An-188 planes can enjoy great interest of both armed forces as well as other organizations that use landing sites of small size. Currently, not only Turkey and Ukraine, which are to cooperate in this project, but also the United Arab Emirates expressed interest in obtaining such machines.
http://www.defence24.pl/antonow-an-188-odrzutowa-konkurencja-dla-a400m-analiza

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Of course. There wasn't a solid order. Nothing was set in stone. It was all promises.  The best they will get is sale of blueprints and maybe (maybe at best) royalties.

Antanov is dead.

Btw, Antonov's parent company, "Ukroboronprom", will be liquidated

In Kiev, decided to liquidate "Ukroboronprom"

April 29, 2019 at 11:48 Topic: Foreign

The Council of National Security and Defense (NSDC) of Ukraine intends to liquidate the state-owned concern Ukroboronprom and create instead a separate body with expanded powers. According toKommersant With reference to the deputy secretary of the National Security and Defense Council Sergey Krivonos, the enterprises participating in the concern will be subordinated to the new structure.

According to him, according to the new bill, a very large number of existing companies will be eliminated. As part of the reorganization, it is also planned to increase the level of transparency of the state defense order. 

In March, the Ukrainian authorities announced a large-scale reform of Ukroboronprom, a key element in the corrupt procurement scheme for the country's army of smuggled parts from the Russian Federation. It turned out that the business partner of the current Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko could be involved in the scheme. 

Also, Sergei Krivonos spoke about the need to audit the concern "Ukroboronprom", which will cost the country about 5 million dollars. “This step will show foreign investors that Kiev is ready for cooperation,” Krivonos stressed.

Tsavo Lion wrote:Kiev won't allow export of dual-use planes locally produced to Russia
under the present political system.

Antonov stalls An-132D programme

Ukrainian "Antonov" degrades without money and components from Russia

Tsavo Lion wrote:Building a new plant in SA will take years & $Bs. They won't fish in muddy water & will deal with other partners instead.
Turkey may proceed with An-188 as she has strained relations with EU/NATO.

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:https://naukatehnika.com/samolyoty-antonova-zachem-ubivayut-aviaprom-ukrainy.html

There is no one waiting for the Antonov planes ... Why are the aviation industry of Ukraine killed?

Posted by: Max Bosmerman May 22, 2019  

Despite optimistic assurances about the resumption of serial aircraft construction at the giant aircraft manufacturing company Antonov, which sounded, in particular, after signing a contract with a division of Boeing last year, the situation has not changed for the better.

Tsavo Lion wrote:China is feasting on Ukrainian talent:
https://pikabu.ru/story/antonov_motor_sich_i_yuzhmash_stanut_kitayskimi_brendami_5217634

https://invoen.ru/vms/palubnaya-aviatsiya-kitaya/