Only a dumbass would buy planes from Ukraine or China. No experience in that industry for both.
To be fair countries with no other choice would of course, but certainly Ukraine would not be a first choice for anyone...
By the time Russia gets her IL-476/8s & ready to sell more, the An-188 may be ready.
Il-476s are in production now... the factories exist and are building aircraft... An-188 is an idea that does not exist even in prototype form... and is a pipe dream between countries that don't have the funding or the need to do anything about making them.
It's not guaranteed that their price & support + operating costs will be le$$.
Of course it is... Russia is likely to buy hundreds of Il-476s to replace its existing Il-76s and to replace the 100 An-70s the VDV are not going to be buying now, and export customers who couldn't or weren't allowed to buy C-17s will be waiting to replace their Il-76s too.
The PAF uses only 4 IL-78s, & Ukraine is going to Upgrade them.
Hahahaha... upgrade in this case means strip them of parts for their own planes and then burn down the hangar and claim the insurance...
Look at the USAF- they planned to order dozens of F-22s & B-2s but ended up stopping their production at only double digits, with none exported.
Turning planes that were sold as being expensive but affordable into extremely expensive white elephants that are hangar queens and financially too much of a burden for a country that spends more than the other 20 top spending countries on the planet combined.
Not a path to follow really.
The Soviets & US produced 100s/dozens of An-12s/72/74s, IL-76s & C-17s respectively, but sold only a fraction of them abroad. C-141, C-5s & An-22/124s weren't exported at all.
They actually sold quite a few Il-76s...
NATO won't shed any tears if Turkey leaves- & some even called for it to be expelled.
Are you crazy... the Pentagon would go into melt down and start a military coup if a US president kicked Turkey out of HATO... it is more important to HATO in the US view than France.
It is not an accident that the biggest US bases are there and their nukes along with Italy and Germany...
And they are moving out of Germany towards the east...
Repair made by the Ukraine on russian produced equipment are already famous
Infamous...
Another case of promises made not quite matching reality. The only real question is do they know they are lying or do they think they can actually do it...
According to the director of the An-188 program Vladimir Shmyrev, such aircraft are designed in the world for billions of dollars within 8-10 years, and "Ukraine will make it cheaper and build in 4-4.5 years."..
Together with Russia how long did An-70 development take... it is not just a case of taking something that exists and slapping on a new set of engines... this will need essentially a full redesign because most of the avionics were Russian.
And here the developers prudently relied on compliance with NATO standards. However, it is too early to talk about the number of sold An-188s, because the plane is still "paper".
So all they have to do is take a design they never built in any quantity and revise its design to meet HATO standards... build it... test it... solve all the problems and then put it into serial production... yeah... be ready next week... if you pay in advance... the full amount...
As of 1 Feb 2012 - The cost of one An-70 was about $67M .
The cost per aircraft might have been 67 million when the Russians had orders for 100 aircraft for the VDV and would subsidise production and pay for half the development costs, but right now with one An-70 and all the development costs in one aircraft it probably cost more than a C-17.
A few years from now the An-188 would cost less as they'll be priced to sell fast & they' generate income from their support. To compare,1 IL-476 costs ~$ 45,843,260M
45 million for an Il-476 is a bargain and it will get cheaper as production numbers increase, but of course export aircraft will likely cost double that.... 90 million for Turkey or Pakistan... but that is still much cheaper than an A-400M which are about 175 million Euros.... which would probably be about 200 million US I am guessing... that is what Germany paid for theirs... the Il-476 has more flight range and much better payload and is faster...
Also their An-77 civ. version can get props it needs from Russia, if not from elsewhere. $ talks!
Dollars do talk and the Ukraine and Antonov don't have any spare dollars... that is their problem since they cut off communication and trade with their primary and main customer... Russia.
Russia didn't do it.... the Ukraine did.
They claim that this new plane is Without Russian parts - Antonov showed the new An-77 Only the propellers r from Russia.
So they said it does not have Russian parts and the propellers are Russian... so they lied?
Surprised?
Developing new aircraft is easy when you have no problem with telling lies, but customers wont invest money if you get caught lying... guess what....
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