Russia and other developments in Hypersonic Research

PapaDragon wrote:

Rubezh was standard ICBM, this would be closer to SS-20 with Zircon as payload

Yakhont (especially Brahmos) had some issues related to aluminium cloud weakness. Did they fix that issue ?

GarryB wrote:They are upgrading Onyx missiles with material like fuel from the Zircon just so they can switch over to the new stuff quicker and more completely and don't have to make two different fuels for missiles doing essentially the same thing.

jhelb wrote:Hypersonic BrahMos cruise missile will take 7-8 years to be developed as per company official. One of the challenges being tackled jointly w/ NPO Mashinostroyeniya and MAI is the overheating of several structural elements at hypersonic speeds.

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/6808109

My question is how can overheating of structures be a problem for the Brahmos but not for Avangard and Kinzahl ???

dino00 wrote:

jhelb wrote:Hypersonic BrahMos cruise missile will take 7-8 years to be developed as per company official. One of the challenges being tackled jointly w/ NPO Mashinostroyeniya and MAI is the overheating of several structural elements at hypersonic speeds.

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/6808109

My question is how can overheating of structures be a problem for the Brahmos but not for Avangard and Kinzahl ???

Russians don't want to share the know how with the Indians, Zirkon works fine...

Cyberspec wrote:Check this out...a Il-76 based test system for hypersonic scramjet vehicles




https://twitter.com/KomissarWhipla/status/1165310972661252097

dino00 wrote:Russians don't want to share the know how with the Indians, Zirkon works fine...

magnumcromagnon wrote:They (Indians) flubbed on the two seat PAK-FA, and played footsie with US...MOD is not in a hurry to sell the tech to India for those stated reasons.

Hole wrote:Are you living under a rock? The west will never buy anything from Russia, except raw materials.

European values. Where were these values as the european countries looted 2/3 of the world and killed hundred of millions?

Hole wrote:Are you living under a rock? The west will never buy anything from Russia, except raw materials.

European values. Where were these values as the european countries looted 2/3 of the world and killed hundred of millions?

European values...like banning memes lol!

Ok. But did they ever face this issue with aluminum cloud during the test phase of a cruise missile ?

I understand that several cruise missiles in many countries faced this issue during the test phase.

So you would rather have Russia trade with these third world corrupt states like India ?

GarryB wrote:Western nations are even more corrupt... they just hide it better.

Come down to Russia, I'll be happy to around Moscow, St Pete,Volvograd so that you can see for yourself the number of students from third world countries like India, African states who flock to these universities. Many of them take up Russian citizenship.

On the other hand have you seen Russian students in universities across Africa or India ?

Citizens of third world states like India, Africa migrate en mass to the West. Again the opposite is not true.

Guess why. Because despite the problems that Russia, west faces they are in orders of magnitude better places to be than some third world shithole.

If Russia refuses to diversify its export base & sticks to poor, corrupt states like India, Russia will suffer big time and I can't see that happen.

Russia must target the prosperous European and Middle Eastern countries for exports.

Lockheed Martin received a contract for the promising US Army LRHW hypersonic missile system