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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #2

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:07 am

    macedonian wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:Yuliya Tymoshenko wants to pick up assault rifles to kill Russians and use nukes to turn Russia in to ash:


    Yes, I've seen that.
    That bitch obviously has some serious issues.
    Wouldn't worry about it though - women often do in that period of their life...
    Don't hold your breath about seeing this in mainstream western media though...you KNOW 'democracy' and 'freedom of speech' never allow for opposite points of view to be aired...LOL

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:18 am

    LMAO the truth hurts Yatz:

    Yatsenyuk: Ukraine will have to buy Russian gas even at $500 per 1,000 cubic meters

    “Our country is fully energy dependent on Russia. It is impossible currently to give up Russian gas [imports],” he said

    KIEV, March 22, /ITAR-TASS/. Ukraine will have to buy natural gas from Russia even at $500 per 1,000 cubic meters should Moscow set such a price, Ukrainian parliament-appointed prime minister Arseny Yatsenyuk said on Ukrainian television.
    “Our country is fully energy dependent on Russia. It is impossible currently to give up Russian gas [imports],” Yatsenyuk stated Friday.
    Yatsenyuk returned from Brussels on Friday. “We continue talks on receiving gas from European Union member countries,” he told journalists in Borispol airport outside Kiev. He said he believes “gas from Europe will cost $150 less than Russian gas.”
    Russia slashed the natural gas price for Ukraine to $268 from some $400 per 1,000 cubic meters after the Ukrainian authorities suspended the signing of an association agreement with the EU at a Vilnius summit in November 2013 opting for closer ties with Moscow instead.
    The refusal triggered mass anti-government protests in Ukraine, which often turned violent and eventually ended with a coup in February. President Viktor Yanukovich had to leave Ukraine citing security concerns. Russia does not recognize the new Ukrainian leadership saying Yanukovich is the country’s legitimate leader.
    Russian energy giant Gazprom recently said the price for gas to Ukraine would be higher from April saying Moscow's partners in Kiev do not fulfill agreements reached when the lower price for Russian gas was discussed.

    http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/724884

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:40 am

    Most Japanese against expanding sanctions on Russia over Ukraine — poll

    52% of respondents believe that Japan should pursue “an independent diplomatic policy”, taking into account the importance of negotiations with Russia on the territorial issue and other factors.

    TOKYO, March 24. /ITAR-TASS/. The majority of Japanese believe that Tokyo should pursue a more independent policy in connection with the crisis around Ukraine, and should not just tighten sanctions against Russia together with the West, according to a public opinion poll conducted by the Nikkei Research centre and TV Tokyo. The poll was conducted by telephone by a random sample method among 1,500 citizens of the country.
    Only 31% of those polled supported the “tightening of sanctions against Russia in coordination with the United States and European Union. At the same time, 52% of respondents believe that Japan, in connection with the situation around Ukraine, should pursue “an independent diplomatic policy”, taking into account the importance of negotiations with Russia on the territorial issue and other factors.
    The Japanese government’s attitude towards the situation over Crimea is more reserved than that of its Western partners. After the signing of the agreement on the peninsula’s accession to Russia, Tokyo, however, announced the suspension of the consultations with Moscow on easing visa restrictions and froze the beginning of talks on a number of documents. However, Japanese government representatives have said that these measures are limited and do not affect economic relations.

    http://en.itar-tass.com/world/725003
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    Post  TR1 Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:43 am

    Sachko shot and killed.

    Awesome Smile .
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    Post  Regular Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:44 am

    Why awesome? Maybe for Ukrainian government. I've already predicted his faith Smile 
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:08 am

    TR1 wrote:Sachko shot and killed.

    Awesome Smile.

    Do you have a link, TR1?
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:54 am

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    That fat-slob should have never sided with the Chechen extremists, one cock-roach down...thousands left to go!
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    Post  Austin Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:54 am

    G7 threatens Russia with economic sanctions over Ukraine – Communique


    G7 countries have threatened Russia with sanctions against several sectors of the economy in the event of a further escalation of the situation around Ukraine, said in a Communique on the results of the Hague meeting of the leaders of G7 on Monday.






    Russian Foreign Ministry has previously stated that to held talks with Russia by using sanctions is inappropriate and counterproductive.

    Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov expressed hope that the West is aware of the futility of such pressure.

    His deputy, Sergei Ryabkov said that sanctions against Russian politicians reflect unwillingness of the West to accept the reality and the desire to impose on everybody their unilateral and unbalanced approaches that are far from the reality.

    As was noted by the president's press secretary, Dmitry Peskov, the presence of such lists for Russia is absolutely unacceptable, regardless of the names that are included.

    "We are ready to increase our efforts, including coordinated action by the sectors that will have a significant impact on the Russian economy, if Russia continues to escalate the situation" it is stated in the document.

    Leaders of G7 held a meeting at the residence of the Dutch premiere on Monday night. EU, US and Japan have adopted a series of sanctions against Russia due to its position in the Crimea.

    Japanese sanctions are one of the softest: Tokyo has frozen talks on visa facilitation and stopped the launch of the negotiations on investments agreements and agreement on the use of outer space.

    The US and Europe has imposed individual sanctions: the freezing of assets and a visa ban on a number of persons.

    French President Francois Hollande said that European leaders expanded their sanctions list, after consultation with our American partners.
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    Post  Austin Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:44 am

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    Post  Vann7 Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:36 am



    There are reports that say Sachko was killed in western Ukraine after a bar fight . He picked to wrong guys
    to mess.. others that he was killed by NATO paid deathsquads to silence him ,he was embarrassing the west with their support for right wing parties ultra nationals.
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    Post  Hannibal Barca Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:11 am

    Yes Sachko's death is a big blow for Russia. He was the best excuse and the best PR.
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    Post  Hannibal Barca Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:13 am

    I read today's Stratfor article and had a good laugh. If this is what Americans have in mind (but I doubt and I think it was only an article intending to increase moral)
    then they will have a very rough landing.
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    Post  Austin Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:08 am

    BRICS at Hague slam attempts to isolate Puti


    BRICS have slammed recent reports ahead of the G20 meet to isolate Russian President Vladimir Putin or to place any restrictions on his participation at the G-20 summit in Australia later this year.

    “The Ministers noted with concern, the recent media statement on the forthcoming G20 Summit to be held in Brisbane in November 2014.  The custodianship of the G20 belongs to all Member States equally and no one Member State can unilaterally determine its nature and character,” said a joint BRICS statement on Monday. Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop had said earlier that Putin could be barred from attending the G20 Summit in November.

    BRICS Foreign Ministers met on the sidelines of the Nuclear Security Summit in the Hague on Monday to review cooperation among the bloc of five after the adoption of the eThekwini Action Plan of 2013.

    The Ministers noted that the role of global governments should focus on “finance, security, information and production”.

    “The BRICS agenda is not centered around any specific country or related issue and shares a common vision which drives it to also increasingly identify common areas for cooperation to assist with finding global solutions to global challenges,” noted the joint communiqué.

    The BRICS meet convened by South African Foreign Minister Maite Nkoana-Mashabane was attended by her counterparts Sergey Lavrov, Salman Khurshid, Wang Yi and Carlos Antonio Paranhos, Under-Secretary General for Political Affairs of the Federative Republic of Brazil.

    The BRICS Ministers also discussed cybersecurity and challenges to peace and security, “notably the significant infringements of privacy and related rights in the wake of the cyber threats experienced, for which there is a need to address these implications in respect of national laws as well as in terms of international law”, said the statement.

    BRICS would “continue to act as positive catalysts for inclusive change in the transformation process towards a new and more equitable global order” asserted the Ministers.

    BRICS have opposed sanctions against the Syrian government and have argued for a negotiated settlement of the Iranian issue. They are also pushing for reforms of global financial institutions like the IMF.

    The five nations also agreed that the challenges that exist within the regions of the BRICS countries must be addressed within the fold of the United Nations.

    “The escalation of hostile language, sanctions and counter-sanctions, and force does not contribute to a sustainable and peaceful solution, according to international law, including the principles and purposes of the United Nations Charter,” said the statement.
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:10 am

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    Aviation assets in the Crimea that are now Russian, assuming they don't let them take it back.
    I think they should just let them have it, barely anything Russia wants or needs by the look of it.

    Considering that the Ukrainian armed forces are completely subordinate to a hostile right-wing Junta that has taken power in Kiev, returning anything at all would be endangering our own troops' security. Everything should be either salvaged or destroyed.
    Someone here mentioned the Syrians as possible recipients. Perhaps the Abkhaz or whoever might be interested in some of them light trainer aircraft too, or whatever there is.

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Yuliya Tymoshenko wants to pick up assault rifles to kill Russians and use nukes to turn Russia in to ash:


    LoL!  Razz 
    Da fuk is she gonna do?
    Pick up an assault rifle? And do what? Fight against T-90s, Su-34s, etc...?
    Nukes? What nukes? clown 

    Some serious delusionists here. Then again it goes with the whole theme of the country these days; the Maidan movement, EU association agreement, etc... just one delusion and nonsense piled on top of another.

    Regular wrote:Funny to see Ukrainian officials preferring Russian rather than Ukrainian. Klitchko as well speaks better Russian than Ukrainian

    Klitschko doesn't speak Ukrainian at all.

    Basically, most of the country is native Russian-speaking, despite the fact that most of the country are ethnic Ukrainians.
    It's a source of complexes for some people but most of them seem to be comfortable enough with it.
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    Post  Regular Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:42 am

    So that Sashko guy was shot by Ukrainian LEOs, SBU most likely. He resisted arrest and started to shoot at officers.
    Before that he expressed his worries on YouTube about him being target of new Ukrainian gov. His radical followers will know who to hate.
    By the way, Ukrainian National Guard isn't so successful, there are plenty people who refuses to join and rather form their own bands.
    I can give kudos to Ukrainian gov, even Yanukovitch wasn't so good at eliminating his enemies.
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:09 pm

    Sashko was a notorious, yet minor warlord in the scheme of things. He was affiliated with Pravyj Sektor and was a co-ordinator there, but I doubt he had much influence at least beyond his home province.

    The real big fish is Yarosh and of course the Ukrainian MVD hasn't dared yet to make a move against him and his wider Pravyj Sektor organisation. In fact he has a mid-level position in the Ukrainian government.

    No doubt the West is going to pressure the 'moderates' in the government to squeeze the most extremist people of their coalition out of power, and disarm the Pravyj Sektor militias; in fact they already are pressuring this because the main condition for the Ukrainian government receiving financial aid from the US/EU is exactly this.

    However, the killing of Sashko Belyj has led to a public divide between the current interim government (Turchinov, Avakov, Yatsenyuk, etc...) and Pravyj Sektor. Actually it has been building in the shadows over the past few weeks but now it's out in the open with Pravyj Sektor promising revenge against members of Ukrainian law enforcement agencies: http://www.baltija.eu/news/read/37153
    A most welcome development - assuming this schism persists which unfortunately there is no guarantee of.

    Anyhow, 1 down - 7 to go. And at each other's hands to boot.
    Avakov, Poroshenko, Lyashko and a few others are missing from the pic though.
    We need to make some kind of poker playing cards out of these people Smile
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    Other news: The acting Ukrainian president wanted to fire the newly appointed Defense Minister; Igor Tenyux, but he wasn't supported by parliament and the decision didn't go through. Tenyux himself said that he was ready to leave his post if a replacement could be found.
    This is the same guy that was screaming in a drunken stupor about how he was going to retake the Crimea Smile
    Trouble is that he claimed that he was in contact with all Ukrainian military units in the Crimea a few weeks back. But as it turned out, not one of his subordinates from the General Staff attempted to contact the local commanders in the Crimea in order to give them orders (hence that episode witht he Marine commander broadcast live on TV that was posted on this thread a few pages back).
    itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1072758

    The G7 countries are stopping their participation in the G8, effectively sounding the death kneel for that organisation.

    A source inside the Ukrainian General Staff claims that 80% of reservists that reported for duty - aren't fit for duty
    http://ria.ru/world/20140325/1000892506.html#ixzz2wv2DBqB7

    Israel is now demanding that the Ukraine pay for the treatment of several wounded from the Maidan events who were sent to Israel.
    Ostensibly this was done under the aegis of a free treatment agreement between the Ukrainian and Israeli foreign ministries, but it turns out that the Ukrainians sent their patients prematurely - Israelis were still deliberating when the patients arrived there (their flights were paid for with volunteer's donations) and no agreement was yet finalised.
    Now that the patients are there, the Israelis have evidently eventually decided against giving them free treatment, and are asking the Ukrainian government to forward money to them.
    http://podrobnosti.ua/podrobnosti/2014/03/24/966518.html
    Goes to show how much other countries care about building ties with the Ukraine and its new government. These ties as it turns out - are not even worth the price of a few medical bills.

    The Feodosiya Marine base was taken by storm yesterday morning. Apparently the Ukrainian marines wanted to leave their bases with all their equipment, arms and banners flying, but em' evil russkies didn't let them, captured the base apparently with no casualties on either side, and disarmed & detained the Ukrainians
    http://newsru.com/russia/24mar2014/crimea_3.html

    Apparently in Kiev someone opened fire in a subway with traumatic weapons.

    According to some info, Yanukovich has arrived in Kharkov and is getting ready to announce a military operation against Kiev.
    Gotta be BS though
    http://www.mk.ru/politics/world/article/2014/03/25/1003444-yanukovich-priehal-v-harkov-i-sobiraetsya-obyavit-o-nachale-voennoy-operatsii-protiv-kieva.html

    Ukrainian SBU group 'Alfa' in Odessa has arrested the vice-president.. of the Kiokushinkai Karate Federation, under suspicion of planning an armed uprising. The man in question is an Afghan war vet.

    Also in Odessa, a local head of the communist party was strangled to death. Among the people Ukrainian right-wing radicals are suspected but the local police has denied that information and claimed that it was just the result of an ordinary drunk dispute between the communist and some 30-year old acquaintance. Wouldn't be the first time the police has covered for the crimes of Maidanites and others protected by the new government.
    http://dumskaya.net/news/v-odesskoj-oblasti-ubili-chlena-kompartii-ukrain-034030/

    Another arms cache has been attacked.
    Latest is from Odessa province, albeit the assault was unsuccessful and nothing from the cache was stolen. There were over 10 attackers, who took an SKS Carbine off a guard before another guard raised the alarm and fired in the air to scare off the attackers.
    Apparently at least some of the attackers have now been found & detained.
    The target was a storage facility under the command of the Ukrainian emergency ministry (equivalent of Russian EMERCOM). The Ukrainian emergency ministry was demilitarised back in 2004-2005, but nontheless maintains a large inventory of mostly legacy, obsolescent small arms together with ammo for them at several caches around the country; including weapons such as the AKS-74Us, AKMs, SKS carbines, RPK-74s, Makarov pistols, TT pistols, RPDs, SVD rifles, RPG-2s, DT, KPVT and PKT vehicle-mounted machine guns, PK machine guns, APS underwater assault rifles, as well as grenades and other gear.

    Meanwhile, since February - thousands of firearms have been stolen from arms caches of the Internal Forces in the Lvov region alone, including 2741 Makarov pistols, over 5000 Kalashnikov assault rifles (1 less I guess now that Sashko has been committed to chalk), 123 RPKs, sniper rifles and 12 RPO-A 'Shmel' thermobaric rocket launchers. Oh yeah, and also about 1500 F-1 grenades, and thousands of rounds of ammo.
    Wow.
    http://news.mail.ru/politics/17374628/?frommail=1

    Finally, it looks like the Donetsk regional and city council was bullied into submission.
    On the 13th of March they issued a deceleration about the organisation of a referendum on the future status of the Donetsk region, consideration of Russia as the strategic partner of the region, creating of a municipal police force for defense against Ukrainian radicals, etc...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96QZmE9668c&feature=youtu.be

    Now, on 21st of March, they published their plans for the referendum.. all the key questions have been removed
    The most 'radical' thing that remains included is the status of Russian as a regional language in the Donetsk region, other than that it's just about the neccessity of not reducing social guarantees and benefits, etc...

    What a bunch of cowards.
    Looks like everyone who's not been thrown in jail and beaten to within an inch of his life (like the Donetsk self-appointed mayor was last I heard), is simply cowering in submission and swallowing their earlier words.
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    Post  Austin Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:44 pm

    Just saw press conf of Obama at Hague

    He said Sectorial Sanction will come into force if Russia crosses further into Ukraine.

    He also dismissed the notion to compare situation in Ukraine to Kosovo
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    Post  Austin Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:46 pm

    What are the chances that Russia will go into East Ukraine like it did with Crimea ?
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    Post  Viktor Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:07 pm

    Austin wrote:What are the chances that Russia will go into East Ukraine like it did with Crimea ?

    Putin explained the reason that might trigger Russian army on the march over the Ukraine. Killings of peaceful protesters!
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    Post  Austin Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:17 pm

    They can always use UN Peacekeeping Force for that
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    Post  Viktor Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:25 pm

    Austin wrote:They can always use UN Peacekeeping Force for that

    Under UN peacekeeping wachfol eye happened some of World most horified atocities and genocides.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:26 pm

    Viktor wrote:
    Austin wrote:They can always use UN Peacekeeping Force for that

    Under UN peacekeeping wachfol eye happened some of World most horified atocities and genocides.

    The Rwandan genocide comes to mind.
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    Post  Austin Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:28 pm

    If Russia goes into East then I think their economy will not be able to take strain.

    Better use Diplomatic or UN or OSCE means to solve the problem.

    Just targetted sanction against individual has let to $70 billion flowing out of economy , cant imagine what will happen if wide sanction are applied.

    Either way its not Russian Business to protect Ukrainian population unless there is something like Genocide happening.
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    Post  Hannibal Barca Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:32 pm

    Can you please stop panicking like p@@@y all the time? East seriously winning this economic war over Ukraine.

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