The Situation in the Ukraine. #5

In Kuibyshev district delivered Ukrainians injured in airstrike on a checkpoint 

Aviation National Guard invaded Russian airspace 

Today, June 5, in the Central District Hospital Kuibyshev district of Rostov region medics brought the wounded citizens of Ukraine who were found in the border hamlet Repihovatom. This donnews.ru said the head of the Kuibyshev district Alexander Krivorotov. 
- Wounded several people. In the morgue, and delivered one corpse. Who are these people, I will now say with certainty will not undertake. I suppose that is wounded officers Ukrainian checkpoint, which today bombed Ukrainian aviation. However, now it does not matter who they are, the main thing - to save people - said Krivorotov. 
Beyond that, as airstrike occurred, residents watched Kujbyshevo. 
- We had seen the plane bombed the town. After his shock there is white smoke, then black clouded. And what is important: the plane space invaded Russia, it is for the next approach point unfolded over our fields. Why is no one on our side has not responded, it is unclear - said Alexander Krivorotov. 


Half an hour after firing head sent to the countryside Repihovaty located between two old checkpoints, ambulances and police. There they found the wounded and Ukrainians. 
In the state of CDH wounded sparingly commented: "go operation." It is known that one of the men seriously wounded.

Regular wrote:Have to steal this from mp

http://donnews.ru/V-TSRB-Kuybyshevskogo-rayona-dostavleny-ranenye-na-granitse-ukraintsy_15636

In Kuibyshev district delivered Ukrainians injured in airstrike on a checkpoint 

Aviation National Guard invaded Russian airspace 

Today, June 5, in the Central District Hospital Kuibyshev district of Rostov region medics brought the wounded citizens of Ukraine who were found in the border hamlet Repihovatom. This donnews.ru said the head of the Kuibyshev district Alexander Krivorotov. 
- Wounded several people. In the morgue, and delivered one corpse. Who are these people, I will now say with certainty will not undertake. I suppose that is wounded officers Ukrainian checkpoint, which today bombed Ukrainian aviation. However, now it does not matter who they are, the main thing - to save people - said Krivorotov. 
Beyond that, as airstrike occurred, residents watched Kujbyshevo. 
- We had seen the plane bombed the town. After his shock there is white smoke, then black clouded. And what is important: the plane space invaded Russia, it is for the next approach point unfolded over our fields. Why is no one on our side has not responded, it is unclear - said Alexander Krivorotov. 


Half an hour after firing head sent to the countryside Repihovaty located between two old checkpoints, ambulances and police. There they found the wounded and Ukrainians. 
In the state of CDH wounded sparingly commented: "go operation." It is known that one of the men seriously wounded.

I simply can't believe it

Slavyansk militia says shot down one more Ukrainian Air Force helicopter

SLAVYANSK, June 06 /ITAR-TASS/. Representatives of the people’s militia of the city of Slavyansk in eastern Ukraine’s embattled Donetsk Region have shot down a helicopter of the Ukrainian Air Force, the Novorossiya news agency quoted the militia command as saying.

The Mil Mi-8 transport helicopter was damaged by bullet fire and performed an emergency landing on Thursday.

Slavyansk people’s mayor Vyacheslav Ponomaryov told an Itar-Tass correspondent that at least two helicopters were shot during the battle.

“It happened to the east of Slavyansk,” he specified, adding that according to preliminary data, three tanks were also damaged.

Fierce clashes between Ukrainian military and militia near Slavyansk have been ongoing since June 3. Ukraine’s armed forces use attack aviation - fighters and helicopters.

According to Ponomaryov, during fighting on June 3, militiamen shot down two aircraft, including a Su-25 (NATO reporting name Frogfoot) attack aircraft, a Ukrainian Air Force helicopter, and damaged four armored vehicles. Another helicopter was shot down on June 4 after a regular air strike on the settlement of Semyonovka near Slavyansk.

Militias were formed in Ukraine’s southeastern Donetsk and Lugansk regions because the territories refused to recognize the legitimacy of central Ukrainian authorities brought to power amid riots during a coup in February.

The decision by residents of the Southeast to defend their rights was prompted by the Crimean Peninsula’s referendum and subsequent secession from Ukraine and reunification with Russia in mid-March.

Kiev has been conducting a punitive operation against federalization supporters in Ukraine’s Southeast. The operation, which involves armored vehicles, heavy artillery and attack aviation, has already killed dozens of people, including civilians.

Russia has repeatedly called on Kiev to stop what Ukraine calls an antiterrorism operation and start dialogue with the Southeast.

Referendums were held in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions on May 11, in which most voters supported independence from Ukraine.

Billionaire businessman and politician Pyotr Poroshenko won the May 25 early presidential elections in Ukraine, which were set by the coup-imposed Kiev authorities. He is to be sworn in on June 7. Poroshenko earlier told media he had funded anti-government protests that led to February's coup.

Head of Poroshenko’s district election headquarters found shot in Vinnitsy region

KIEV, 05/06/14, ITAR-TASS. The head of Ukrainian newly elected President Petr Poroshenko’s district election headquarters has been found dead in Ukraine’s western Vinnitsy region, the Ukrainian interior ministry said on Thursday.

“A man’s body with a gunshot wound in the head was found inside his own car parked in a street in the town of Nemirov,” the ministry said. The man headed Poroshenko’s election headquarters in a Vinnitsy region district during the recent election campaign.

The police have opened a criminal case.

New sanctions may be imposed against Russia in a month if Moscow does not change its policies over Ukraine, RIA Novosti quoted US President Barack Obama as saying Thursday. The G7 will assess Russia’s activities during next two to four weeks and if the policy is not changed “certain measures” will be taken, Obama reportedly said at a news conference in Brussels. He also said that “Russia needs to recognize that President-elect [Petro] Poroshenko is the legitimately elected leader of Ukraine and engage the government in Kiev,” AP reported.

etaepsilonk wrote:

arpakola wrote:DNR field commanders, Igor Bezler, ordered an execution of two  foreign combatants

Fake as hell.

That "Igor Bezler" is a well known provocateur.
If anyone wonders, it's not the first time he's announcing "the execution of POWs". Had this been for real, he would have been put down weeks ago by rebels themselves.

Asf wrote:

etaepsilonk wrote:

arpakola wrote:DNR field commanders, Igor Bezler, ordered an execution of two  foreign combatants

Fake as hell.

That "Igor Bezler" is a well known provocateur.
If anyone wonders, it's not the first time he's announcing "the execution of POWs". Had this been for real, he would have been put down weeks ago by rebels themselves.

It isn't Bezler. Look at the picture

Asf wrote:

etaepsilonk wrote:

arpakola wrote:DNR field commanders, Igor Bezler, ordered an execution of two  foreign combatants

Fake as hell.

That "Igor Bezler" is a well known provocateur.
If anyone wonders, it's not the first time he's announcing "the execution of POWs". Had this been for real, he would have been put down weeks ago by rebels themselves.

It isn't Bezler. Look at the picture

Regular wrote:I'm afraid that rebels will loose popular support from the locals. I think locals will rather surrender to UA troops than live under the shelling.   What do You think?

Q: First tell me how you ended up in Simonafka,
A: We came to Simonafka on the very first day...

Q: When is that... when the road block was formed?
A: In the days when there was no road block, in those days we held out the best we could. We thought they would advance but they never did, so we strengthened our positions. They sent us mortars(UA troops).

Q: This was before the column of soldiers was attacked?
A: Yes...

Q: Ok, what about the battle that sarted on the 3rd (of June)... In the morning there was... 6am
A: Preparations... I will tell you exactly, some time after 5am planes started flying over heard and began bombing, preparing for a weak attack, they though they killed everyone ...then came a tank morning time with the cover of BTR's (from the top), after the tanks came a column of soldiers, conscripts… they were trying to hide behind the road block. We opened fire on them...

Q: They were young,
A: Yes they were young boys, 18-19 year olds... We opened fire and they started falling. They could not realize where the fire was coming from, they tried to hide behind a tank but fell one by one. The column fell back and we opened up on the tank with everything we had. The tank stopped for a moment.. and then continued onwards.

Q: Maybe they radioed with their command?
A: Yes probably, I don’t know. Then slowly it began to move forward, ofcourse the BTR's...

Q: What side was the hill on?
A: Well there was a bridge, they came onto the hill (BTR's) and covered the tanks and the column.

Q: The tank traveled right along the road?
A: Yes right along the road,

Q: On the side of BZR? Simonafka?
A: Yes, towards the road block. And of course began to destroy the stone blocks.

Q: And the people inside, you had losses were there injured, killed?
A: Yes... that’s how it goes.

A: We shot at it with all the weapons we had, it was useless. It continued onwards, with no rush. It got all the way to the roadblock, and destroyed all of the stone blocks. We got a hit on it with a "shtora" head on, and damaged the turret. The tank stopped for a second and looked around, it was there by itself with no cover from troops so it began to slowly retreat. When it started to move back the su-25 joined in, at first they fired at us, but then they saw the retreating tank and opened fire. They opened fire on the tank and the retreating troops.

Q: Started firing where the tank was?
A: Yes... I don’t know who they fired at.. But somewhere in the vicinity of the tank. Slowly they pulled that tank bank, and the BTR also began to burn.. so they pulled back off the hill.

Q: You also said when the tank pulled back it ran over the injured soldiers?
A: Yes of course, the injured that fell, no one bothered to collect them. The spot where they fell with their weapons is where they remained when the tank drove over them... and they are still there. It’s a mess (literally). People are afraid to go there, the snipers operate consistently...

Q: Ok, but we are not preventing them from picking up their dead...
A: They don’t need them!

Q: If there was an ambulance to pick them, you wouldn’t fire on them.
A: Yes they are welcome to pick them up... Two cares drove onto bridge and where fired upon by the troops (UA).

Q: Regular cars?
A: Yes these where civilian cars, they came from Kharkov, the cars are there now burned. The Ukrainian army opened fire on them, the drivers where lucky to get out, one was in shock... they sent them on their way home. Those two burned out car chassis are still there on the bridge... and past them is where the corpses of the soldier are still laid out.. graves with Ukrainian soldiers over there are full to the brim...

Q: You can see them?
A: Well, all you got to do is look on the side of the road, they are in shallow graves. I don’t know where Western Ukrainians are looking. Do they consider them their people?

Q: Well their mothers probably do...
A: Of course a lot of our guys have died as well...

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In the remaining portion this guy describes how it was like to be under the rain of Ukrainian mortars, artillery, and tank shells. This portion is really interesting but can some one else can translate, its hard work . Basically he describes being able to duck from mortars within 2 seconds, but tank shells are trickier and don't produce any sound except the explosion when they hit near by... After being under the bombardment for two days the guy looks shell shocked as any person

Amb. Baer’s Response to Russia on OSCE Violations in Ukraine

05 June 2014
United States Mission to the OSCE
As delivered by Ambassador Daniel B. Baer
to the Permanent Council, Vienna
June 5, 2014
Reply to the Russian Federation regarding Ongoing Violations of OSCE Principles and Commitments by the Russian Federation and the Situation in Ukraine
I’d like to make four brief points:
First, I appreciate the range of issues that our distinguished Russian colleague has raised, some of which are real issues, some of which are a continuation of fiction, and it’s always hard to sort out the real issues from the fiction in these statements.
I would say that the Russian Federation has basically zero credibility on a number of the issues that were raised. I was interested to hear, for example, the Russian Federation’s concern about other States being accessories to the murder of civilians. And I wonder if that is a statement of policy the Russian Federation applies to Russia’s own behavior with regard to Syria?
I was interested to hear about Russia’s concern about the upholding of international law and I wonder whether that applies to Russia’s own illegal so-called annexation of Crimea? I was interested to hear about Russia’s concern about elections and unlawful authorities, given the fact that Russia’s own elections have been so deeply flawed. So there may be some real issues buried in the garbage that was spread out today. The Russian government is not a credible actor to opine on them, unfortunately.
Second, with regard to the incident in Luhansk -- because that was raised in particular -- we’ve also noted the conflicting reports about the June 2nd deaths at the Luhansk municipal administration building. Unfortunately, some reports indicate an accident with a separatists-fired MANPAD or other weapons may have caused the deaths. The OSCE SMM team, based on acknowledged “limited observation,” which I understand was not line-of-sight, reported the explosion could have been caused by a rocket fired from an aircraft. I would note that if one saw an aircraft flying by, that would not be inconsistent with a MANPAD gone astray if one then saw an explosion.
The team’s level of expertise in making such a determination is unknown, and we note that the Ukrainian government is proposing a resolution to investigate this incident.
Third, I think we should be careful: the Russian Federation continues to use the term “punitive operation.” This is not a “punitive operation,” this is about responding to a threat which emanates from, and is supported by, the Russian Federation.
And fourth, as I said, among the range of concerns that were raised by our distinguished Russian colleague are some legitimate concerns. Concerns about violence, certainly -- we are all concerned about violence, we all want a reduction of violence. However, it is important for all of us to remember: this would not be happening without Russia. Russia is THE critical ingredient. A solution, a de-escalation, will not happen until Russia decides to also be THE critical ingredient in that solution. If Russia is genuinely concerned by what is happening in Ukraine, Russia can take a range of actions which would start us down the path of de-escalation.
Thank you.

Asf wrote:

etaepsilonk wrote:

arpakola wrote:DNR field commanders, Igor Bezler, ordered an execution of two  foreign combatants

Fake as hell.

That "Igor Bezler" is a well known provocateur.
If anyone wonders, it's not the first time he's announcing "the execution of POWs". Had this been for real, he would have been put down weeks ago by rebels themselves.

It isn't Bezler. Look at the picture

arpakola wrote:

no need to know russian to get the outline of this..

etaepsilonk wrote:

Asf wrote:

etaepsilonk wrote:

arpakola wrote:DNR field commanders, Igor Bezler, ordered an execution of two  foreign combatants

Fake as hell.

That "Igor Bezler" is a well known provocateur.
If anyone wonders, it's not the first time he's announcing "the execution of POWs". Had this been for real, he would have been put down weeks ago by rebels themselves.

It isn't Bezler. Look at the picture

You were sayin'?   


And BTW, this picture alone sreams "provocateur" all over the place.

flamming_python wrote:
And of course if he was guilty of the crime shown in this video, he should be brought to justice swiftly.

etaepsilonk wrote:
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Marinovka. Looks like there may have been some action after all.



Soo, did they come from Russia??

etaepsilonk wrote:

Asf wrote:

etaepsilonk wrote:

arpakola wrote:DNR field commanders, Igor Bezler, ordered an execution of two  foreign combatants

Fake as hell.

That "Igor Bezler" is a well known provocateur.
If anyone wonders, it's not the first time he's announcing "the execution of POWs". Had this been for real, he would have been put down weeks ago by rebels themselves.

It isn't Bezler. Look at the picture

You were sayin'?   


And BTW, this picture alone sreams "provocateur" all over the place.

arpakola wrote:
In the video the only in common is the mustach.. else  the lad on the vid has a much slimer face.. (I think)