PapaDragon wrote:AlfaT8 wrote:...............
No Paket??
It's a freakin destroyer. It will have torpedoes no problem.
But Paket is also an anti-torpedo interceptor.
PapaDragon wrote:AlfaT8 wrote:...............
No Paket??
It's a freakin destroyer. It will have torpedoes no problem.
Hmm, I'd kind of assumed they'd give BSF & Baltic 1 each to be Slava class replacement Flagship & S-500 umbrellafour for the Northern and Pacific fleets. On the other fleets - the Baltic and the Black Sea - the destroyers" Leader "service to bear will not be,"
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Ministry of Defense has decided to order eight nuclear destroyers "Leader"
Northern Design Bureau should complete the creation of the technical design of the destroyer in the fourth quarter of 2017
Russia's Defense Ministry plans to order eight nuclear destroyers like "Leader", the construction of the first ship is scheduled to begin in 2018. This was announced today Tass source in the military-industrial complex.
According to him, the Northern Design Bureau should complete the creation of the technical design of the destroyer in the fourth quarter of 2017, after which the Defense Ministry will sign a contract with the United Shipbuilding Corporation to build a series of ships of this type.
"Construction of the head of" Leader "is due to start in early 2018 and be completed by the end of 2022, that is, it will last for five years," - a spokesman said.
"It was originally supposed to build for the Navy a series of 12 destroyers, then this number has been reduced to eight units - four for the Northern and Pacific fleets. On the other fleets - the Baltic and the Black Sea - the destroyers" Leader "service to bear will not be," - said the source.
He said that the "leader" were armed with missiles "Caliber" and "Onyx", anti-aircraft missile systems S-500 "Prometheus" and "Poliment-Redoute" (currently being tested at the head frigate of project 22350 "Admiral Gorshkov"), and and rocket-gun complex "Carapace-M".
https://defence.ru/mashino-stroenie/minoboroni-reshilo-zakazat-vosem-atomnikh-esmincev-lider/
George1 wrote:i think project 21956 is dead. What the purpose of building to such ships since leader will be universal design (cruiser, destroyer, large ASW ship)
marat wrote:George1 wrote:i think project 21956 is dead. What the purpose of building to such ships since leader will be universal design (cruiser, destroyer, large ASW ship)
Leader will be extremely expensive.
I would like to see those ships in service,.
PapaDragon wrote:marat wrote:George1 wrote:i think project 21956 is dead. What the purpose of building to such ships since leader will be universal design (cruiser, destroyer, large ASW ship)
Leader will be extremely expensive.
I would like to see those ships in service,.
Honestly, I am fairly certain that Lider class will be completed without too much hassle if nuclear icebreakers are anything to go by.
Size is similar, they use same nuclear reactors and vast majority of equipment and weaponry is either off the shelf stuff or will be by the time they are to be installed.
I am very optimistic about this class despite the size. There are not many unknowns in this equation.
PapaDragon wrote:marat wrote:George1 wrote:i think project 21956 is dead. What the purpose of building to such ships since leader will be universal design (cruiser, destroyer, large ASW ship)
Leader will be extremely expensive.
I would like to see those ships in service,.
Honestly, I am fairly certain that Lider class will be completed without too much hassle if nuclear icebreakers are anything to go by.
Size is similar, they use same nuclear reactors and vast majority of equipment and weaponry is either off the shelf stuff or will be by the time they are to be installed.
I am very optimistic about this class despite the size. There are not many unknowns in this equation.
I think the big question is if they can get a decent Radar/AA Missile system up & working properly given the amount of difficulty they've had with doing much smaller ones.Honestly, I am fairly certain that Lider class will be completed without too much hassle if nuclear icebreakers are anything to go by.
Size is similar, they use same nuclear reactors and vast majority of equipment and weaponry is either off the shelf stuff or will be by the time they are to be installed.
PapaDragon wrote:marat wrote:George1 wrote:i think project 21956 is dead. What the purpose of building to such ships since leader will be universal design (cruiser, destroyer, large ASW ship)
Leader will be extremely expensive.
I would like to see those ships in service,.
Honestly, I am fairly certain that Lider class will be completed without too much hassle if nuclear icebreakers are anything to go by.
Size is similar, they use same nuclear reactors and vast majority of equipment and weaponry is either off the shelf stuff or will be by the time they are to be installed.
I am very optimistic about this class despite the size. There are not many unknowns in this equation.
SeigSoloyvov wrote:12 10k+ ships by by 2025?.
No way they would be lucky to get two out in that timeframe.
Militarov wrote:SeigSoloyvov wrote:12 10k+ ships by by 2025?.
No way they would be lucky to get two out in that timeframe.
Well seems they now want to build only 8 of them with first to enter service in like 2027-8.
Isos wrote:http://concern-agat.ru/en/production/radiolocation-radio-electronic-systems-and-complexes/radar-with-rotating-l-band-active-phased-array
Hope we will see this type of radar on Lider.
Militarov wrote:Isos wrote:http://concern-agat.ru/en/production/radiolocation-radio-electronic-systems-and-complexes/radar-with-rotating-l-band-active-phased-array
Hope we will see this type of radar on Lider.
I am abit skeptical about these ranges they claimed here.
Isos wrote:Militarov wrote:Isos wrote:http://concern-agat.ru/en/production/radiolocation-radio-electronic-systems-and-complexes/radar-with-rotating-l-band-active-phased-array
Hope we will see this type of radar on Lider.
I am abit skeptical about these ranges they claimed here.
If you look at the detection ranges of the other radars, it seem like they don't lie. However, Lider is meant to carry S-500 so it will need a radar like this one for ABM role.
Militarov wrote:Isos wrote:Militarov wrote:Isos wrote:http://concern-agat.ru/en/production/radiolocation-radio-electronic-systems-and-complexes/radar-with-rotating-l-band-active-phased-array
Hope we will see this type of radar on Lider.
I am abit skeptical about these ranges they claimed here.
If you look at the detection ranges of the other radars, it seem like they don't lie. However, Lider is meant to carry S-500 so it will need a radar like this one for ABM role.
No, no i am not saying they are lying, just that they are being abit optimistic
SeigSoloyvov wrote:Militarov wrote:Isos wrote:Militarov wrote:Isos wrote:http://concern-agat.ru/en/production/radiolocation-radio-electronic-systems-and-complexes/radar-with-rotating-l-band-active-phased-array
Hope we will see this type of radar on Lider.
I am abit skeptical about these ranges they claimed here.
If you look at the detection ranges of the other radars, it seem like they don't lie. However, Lider is meant to carry S-500 so it will need a radar like this one for ABM role.
No, no i am not saying they are lying, just that they are being abit optimistic
Most people here ar optimistic when it comes to the Russians Navy and building ships of this size.
If I hear the Ice Breaker Excuse again I swear.