Azerbaijan vs Armenia [Nagorno-Karabakh conflict]

Militarov wrote:[

Well, Russia sold quite an amount of weapons to Turkey too for an example. Political situation changes.

Azeris are really old enemy of Armenia, that part never changed. And so is Turkey.


This is one of the moments that we can see why you should never sell weapons to enemies of your important ally, US never does this and so should Russia (especially because those enemies of your friends are usually your enemies as well).

Kadmos45 wrote:

Militarov wrote:

Kadmos45 wrote:How in the hell is even possible that azeri panturko-nazi terrorists have weapons from Russia like TOS-1A ?

Russians sold them ?

So Russia sold those weapons to biggest enemy of Armenia (Russia's only non hostile ally in the region ?) . Cute ally Russia is.

USA, UK, France, etc used to be Serbia's allies... until they were not. Interest comes first, get used to it.

marat wrote:

AttilaA wrote:

TheArmenian wrote:The Azeris may have captured a hill....But, for sure it is not this one.

Your own defence ministry admitted that Azerbaijan indeed gained lands.

TheArmenian wrote:Here is about the village of Talish that the Azeri forces attacked and kept control of for one day.
It was taken back by our forces.
Reporters went in and saw this:

A cheap propaganda way of saying "we got it back" and "murderous barbar Turks are executing our civilians".

TheArmenian wrote:There are reports that we are continuing our counter attack, have taken back al the lost positions and are even capturing territory on the Northern front.
Waiting for confirmations.

And Azerbaijan says that it still retains those positions. This is the same Armenian military that only "remembered" a day later that it had lost its positions.

AttillaA please what is your opinion regardin beheading of Armeniam solider. It is all over the net.
Cheap propaganda i gues?

Sorry for OT but marat its very nice to see you!

So what is going on lads?

I thought this was the usual one or two day shootout before the usual ceasefire is brokered and everything goes back to normal.

I read some reports of Armenians claiming that Azeris have 'islamic extremist' elements among them. Though they didnt specify whom.

This smells of Turks more and more. Turkey is playing a dangerous game here. 'It would be a shame if something were to happen to it.''

KoTeMoRe wrote:Same idea here...so I think the Armenians either mistaken or something (someone) else.

We were missguided by journalists. Aze did not use real UCAV, but rather what i like to call "SEAD suicide drone". Israeli IAI Harop.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfO9djSW8AAbUlS.jpg - Disturbing photo

Dead Aze SOF soldier wearing FIGHTEX combat uniform of israeli origin, produced by FIBROTEX Technologies.



More about it: http://www.miltechmag.com/2012/06/fibrotex-technologies-launches-fightex.html

Disturbing photos: Allegedly bodies of KIA Aze soldiers

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfOFq0OUsAIA0KU.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfOFq1KUUAAKM3p.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfOFq1eUsAA4fxE.jpg

Aze officially released list of 26 KIA with names till this point

Militarov wrote:Disturbing photos: Allegedly bodies of KIA Aze soldiers

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfOFq0OUsAIA0KU.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfOFq1KUUAAKM3p.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfOFq1eUsAA4fxE.jpg

You gone soft buddy...or maybe I gone numb...

Time to binge watch some Disney cartoons to filter out the accumulated filth from the brain.

PapaDragon wrote:

Militarov wrote:Disturbing photos: Allegedly bodies of KIA Aze soldiers

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfOFq0OUsAIA0KU.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfOFq1KUUAAKM3p.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfOFq1eUsAA4fxE.jpg

You gone soft buddy...or maybe I gone numb...

Time to binge watch some Disney cartoons to filter out the accumulated filth from the brain.

I had to, God damn GarryB made me hardlink everything, blame him!

Militarov wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:Same idea here...so I think the Armenians either mistaken or something (someone) else.

We were missguided by journalists. Aze did not use real UCAV, but rather what i like to call "SEAD suicide drone". Israeli IAI Harop.

You're à bit late bre, already posted.

More OSAs on the way

KoTeMoRe wrote:
You're à bit late bre, already posted.

Yet, noone is posting this nice as i am

Militarov wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:
You're à bit late bre, already posted.

Yet, noone is posting this nice as i am

True.  Anyway, money allows many things. Armenia might need polite neighbours soon.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Militarov wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:
You're à bit late bre, already posted.

Yet, noone is posting this nice as i am

True.  Anyway, money allows many things. Armenia might need polite neighbours soon.

Or couple hundred million USD aid in equipment... asap.

Militarov wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Militarov wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:
You're à bit late bre, already posted.

Yet, noone is posting this nice as i am

True.  Anyway, money allows many things. Armenia might need polite neighbours soon.

Or couple hundred million USD aid in equipment... asap.

The two are implicit. Also Azeris lost à whole stick/section of SoF like it was a good thing. Wtf.

I'm shocked that you guys haven't addressed how accurate and astute Russian intelligence has been in the last 3 weeks:

1.) Russia lent $200 million dollars of military aid to Armenia, and made a showcase of Mig-29's stationed there almost two weeks ago.

2.) Russia caught wind that there's a major Psy-Op campaign against VVP a week and a half ago.


...Addressing the concerns about TOS-1, it's a powerful system, but not invincible. Russia has already put in to service tracked ECM vehicles capable of causing MLRS munitions to explode in the air hitting false targets.

Naturally it makes sense to sure up the Armenian positions with Rtut-BM:

We have to be clear here on the "official" stuff vs what is actually going on.

Officially: Azerbaijan is launching/launched an attack on their breakaway republic of Nargono-Karabakh, that is backed by Armenia and is an ally of Armenia

Unofficially: Armenia is outright being attacked through Nargono-Karabakh that gained independence from Azerbaijan and is populated by Armenians.

The coverage of this is so grotesque it is hurting my head. I hear of "Armenia lost x amount of troops and equipment and now an HQ due to ballistic missiles from Azerbaijan". Issue is, Armenia isn't being attacked but Nargono-Karabakh is, which doesn't actually have land connection technically to Armenia. If Armenia was attacked outright, pretty sure Russia would have jumped in by now. And Scuds from Armenia would be hitting Azerbaijan. But that isn't the case.

I really feel for the people of Nargono-Karabakh. They are the ones getting ignored entirely.

magnumcromagnon wrote:I'm shocked that you guys haven't addressed how accurate and astute Russian intelligence has been in the last 3 weeks:

1.) Russia lent $200 million dollars of military aid to Armenia, and made a showcase of Mig-29's stationed there almost two weeks ago.

2.) Russia caught wind that there's a major Psy-Op campaign against VVP a week and a half ago.


...Addressing the concerns about TOS-1, it's a powerful system, but not invincible. Russia has already put in to service tracked ECM vehicles capable of causing MLRS munitions to explode in the air hitting false targets.

Naturally it makes sense to sure up the Armenian positions with Rtut-BM:

You were abit missguided by this EW system specs, while it truly is there to protect from artillery/MLRS fire, it works only aganist shells with radio controlled fuses, by making them explode alot earlier than intended. Shells equipped with radio controlled fuses are mostly used aganist manpower and soft targets, and they are fused to explode 5-10-15m above targets in trenches or behind the wall, this way allowing maximum effect on them.

Battle for Nagorno-Karabakh intensifies as both sides trade offensives

is this true from Colonel Cassad ... that the azeri have taken about half of Karabakh ??

http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2687994.html

sepheronx wrote:We have to be clear here on the "official" stuff vs what is actually going on.

Officially: Azerbaijan is launching/launched an attack on their breakaway republic of Nargono-Karabakh, that is backed by Armenia and is an ally of Armenia

Unofficially: Armenia is outright being attacked through Nargono-Karabakh that gained independence from Azerbaijan and is populated by Armenians.

The coverage of this is so grotesque it is hurting my head.  I hear of "Armenia lost x amount of troops and equipment and now an HQ due to ballistic missiles from Azerbaijan".  Issue is, Armenia isn't being attacked but Nargono-Karabakh is, which doesn't actually have land connection technically to Armenia.  If Armenia was attacked outright, pretty sure Russia would have jumped in by now.  And Scuds from Armenia would be hitting Azerbaijan.  But that isn't the case.

I really feel for the people of Nargono-Karabakh.  They are the ones getting ignored entirely.

So many errors.

Here are the clarifications:

1) This latest flare-up is not a full scale war (at least not yet), but is by far bigger than any of the daily skirmishes we had for years.

2) There is no full scale Azeri onslaught on Karabagh. The land exchanges we are talking about are minimal. Only one village (Talish) fell under their hands. We retook it back the next day. They are still holding a few of our border outposts and trenches. We are talking a few hundred meters inside our territories.

3) This flare-up started with their special forces attacking with tanks, artillery and helicopters our border outposts manned mostly by conscripts. A lot of soldiers died from both sides (you have seen photos and videos from both sides). Their special forces also entered the nearby village of Talish were they murdered 3 elderly civilians who had not fled. They were evicted from Talish the very next day.

4) Currently the fighting is on these border areas. Artillery, tanks and UAVs are being used extensively by both sides.

5) Karabagh is connected to Armenia since 1994. In that war, Armenia captured the whole area between Armenia and Karabagh. The map is like this:

Godric wrote:is this true from Colonel Cassad  ... that the azeri have taken about half of Karabakh ??

http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2687994.html

I guess you don't understand Russian.

The red areas are regions of Karabagh involved in the fighting.

An Azeri UAV shot down. Any thoughts about the drone type?