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Rebels got back their T-72B3.
with beutifful nasty T-72B3 whit Sosna-U sight and Thales thermal camera ??
My comments about Fedorov are eliciting some dismay. Sorry friends, I call it as I see it. So I would like to re-post here a comment I made yesterday: Fedorov and I probably agree on most goals and values, we are definitely on the "same side of the barricade", but I cannot say that I am impressed by his analyses which I find superficial and, no offense intended, simplistic. He does a lot of good stuff, with the Duma for example, and I have nothing against him, but he is does have a tendency to go into a "panic mode" which I don't like. Now, he is WAAAY better then Dugin, but both have this tendency to go "the house is burning! the house is burning!" when was it needed is slow, painstaking and meticulous daily work towards the goal. You might wonder whose analyses about the Ukraine I like most: Sergei Glazev's. Nikolai Starikov is often also very good.
sepheronx wrote:Werent white lines shown on Ukrainian military equipment?
Anyway, awesome footage. Although, still think giving t72b3 to rebels is dumb since it would be better in Russian services (not a cheap upgrade).
Figured! Thanks for confirming!GarryB wrote:Are you guys talking about that shaped piece of glass on the arm above the heavy machine gun?
That is an old prismatic sight in Soviet service for half a century...
Looks like any BTR-80 to me... The turret is somewhat suspicious, but who knows.NationalRus wrote:on the destroyed BTR pic you can see it CLEARLY its a BTR-82, why keep on deyning it, im actaully quite happy that we get some stuff trough to them, proves the fifth-column didnt taken over russia yet completly
here good quality
its ther, or was ther if it was only this one which got destroyed, and you might take out a tinfoil hat if you try to say tht a brand new BTR-82 which is not even in great nummbers in the russian army itself "accidentaly" got lost and ended up in donbass
higurashihougi wrote:The AA toy model has a twin 57mm cannon, isn't it ?
Probably a yes and no question... Like all abandoned tunnels, some will remain and others will collapse.Firebird wrote:I wonder if old tunnels are operational from Soviet times. Connected to the Donbass mines.. or not.
Would be funny for Willy Wanker of the Chocolate Factory to build a giant wall along the border. And then a load of cutting edge mil tech to appear from nowhere for the Resistance ..! : D
Looks like any BTR-80 to me... The turret is somewhat suspicious, but who knows.
No, it doesn't.... It appears to be a variant of a -80 and nothing more.NationalRus wrote:Looks like any BTR-80 to me... The turret is somewhat suspicious, but who knows.
it doesnt look like anything, it is a BTR-82, when i see a abrams tank i dont say it "looks like a abrams kind of tank" i say its a abrams
Mike E wrote:No, it doesn't.... It appears to be a variant of a -80 and nothing more.NationalRus wrote:Looks like any BTR-80 to me... The turret is somewhat suspicious, but who knows.
it doesnt look like anything, it is a BTR-82, when i see a abrams tank i dont say it "looks like a abrams kind of tank" i say its a abrams
Mike E wrote:No, it doesn't.... It appears to be a variant of a -80 and nothing more.NationalRus wrote:Looks like any BTR-80 to me... The turret is somewhat suspicious, but who knows.
it doesnt look like anything, it is a BTR-82, when i see a abrams tank i dont say it "looks like a abrams kind of tank" i say its a abrams
NationalRus wrote:Mike E wrote:No, it doesn't.... It appears to be a variant of a -80 and nothing more.NationalRus wrote:Looks like any BTR-80 to me... The turret is somewhat suspicious, but who knows.
it doesnt look like anything, it is a BTR-82, when i see a abrams tank i dont say it "looks like a abrams kind of tank" i say its a abrams
BTR-82 front hull? = check! TKN-4GA-02 = check! 2A72? =check! production = ФГУП Tula, Russia http://www.kbptula.ru/index.php/en/productions/small-arms-guns-grenade-launchers/guns-machine-guns/2a72 other facilietys for production = none existent, in ukraine? = none existent, sails of them to ukraine = none existent, production of the same turrent or ГШ cannons in other countrys = none existent, sales of them to other countrys in europe in that form = none existent
stop being delusional, its not even a bad thing
onwiththewar wrote:Hey isn't it a known truth that Russian para military are in there?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbass#Vostok_Battalion
"Vostok reportedly includes members of the original Vostok Battalion, a special forces unit of the Russian intelligence directorate (GRU) that participated in the Second Chechen and Russo-Georgian Wars. "
Why is it a surprise then to see Russian hardware there, if the Vostoks actually own them?
I don't get the logic. Someone enlighten me pls.
The Cossacks might have some of those too.
People seem to assume only Russian regular army has those hardware and only Putin is able to send them to Novorossiya, which might be a big assumption.
Mike E wrote:onwiththewar wrote:Hey isn't it a known truth that Russian para military are in there?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbass#Vostok_Battalion
"Vostok reportedly includes members of the original Vostok Battalion, a special forces unit of the Russian intelligence directorate (GRU) that participated in the Second Chechen and Russo-Georgian Wars. "
Why is it a surprise then to see Russian hardware there, if the Vostoks actually own them?
I don't get the logic. Someone enlighten me pls.
The Cossacks might have some of those too.
People seem to assume only Russian regular army has those hardware and only Putin is able to send them to Novorossiya, which might be a big assumption.
Wiki as a source? That's a big no=no...
TR1 wrote:Mike E wrote:No, it doesn't.... It appears to be a variant of a -80 and nothing more.NationalRus wrote:Looks like any BTR-80 to me... The turret is somewhat suspicious, but who knows.
it doesnt look like anything, it is a BTR-82, when i see a abrams tank i dont say it "looks like a abrams kind of tank" i say its a abrams
I just had to chime in.
Are your eyes not working, or are you honestly that far in denial?
This is incredibly entertaining to read, but honestly:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/BTR-82A_%281%29.jpg/1280px-BTR-82A_%281%29.jpg
BTR-82 @ the plant in Russia. What is noticeable? The new sight under the gun. No other BTR variant has that.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/BTR-80A%281%29.JPG
Good old BTR-80A. Note there is no big, new boxy sight right under the turret. And the IR projector is totally different. Also, note the different in the metal plates on the front face of the turret.
And now, the seperatist BTR:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvK5KtiCUAAsUMU.png:large
HMMMMM. Looks AWFUL similar, in terms of all 3 recognition features, among others.
Now the real question is:
1.) Can you not be bothered to take 5 seconds to research the vehicles in question?
2.) Can you not compare the vehicles and come to the same conclusion anyone with two functioning eyes can?
3.) Are you just in forceful, willful denial?
Given the T-72B3 denial in this thread, I would say all 3 apply.
onwiththewar wrote:Mike E wrote:onwiththewar wrote:Hey isn't it a known truth that Russian para military are in there?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbass#Vostok_Battalion
"Vostok reportedly includes members of the original Vostok Battalion, a special forces unit of the Russian intelligence directorate (GRU) that participated in the Second Chechen and Russo-Georgian Wars. "
Why is it a surprise then to see Russian hardware there, if the Vostoks actually own them?
I don't get the logic. Someone enlighten me pls.
The Cossacks might have some of those too.
People seem to assume only Russian regular army has those hardware and only Putin is able to send them to Novorossiya, which might be a big assumption.
Wiki as a source? That's a big no=no...
Well, sir, what's your opinion on the Vostoks then? They seem better trained and better armed, compared to locals such as the "Ghosts" for example.
onwiththewar wrote:Hey isn't it a known truth that Russian para military are in there?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbass#Vostok_Battalion
"Vostok reportedly includes members of the original Vostok Battalion, a special forces unit of the Russian intelligence directorate (GRU) that participated in the Second Chechen and Russo-Georgian Wars. "
Why is it a surprise then to see Russian hardware there, if the Vostoks actually own them?
I don't get the logic. Someone enlighten me pls.
The Cossacks might have some of those too.
People seem to assume only Russian regular army has those hardware and only Putin is able to send them to Novorossiya, which might be a big assumption.
"BTR-82 front hull? = check!" Uhhh, BTR's all have very similar hulls, there is very little to no difference in physical appearance.
I'm not being delusional, like I said, it is not nearly as convincing as the B3. - I'd like to see more Russian action in Uki, but this isn't it!