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Middle East air war: Israel - Egypt - Syria

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Middle East air war: Israel - Egypt - Syria

nemrod Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:04 pm

To understand the past air war, the present, and the future, it would be interresting to take a look what's happened in the middle east. This topic could be one of the most interresting subject -not because me Very Happy

- the work of Tom Cooper is in this regard very very precious. It helped us to understand the scale of the israeli propaganda, and worst, the overall western propaganda. You could notice that most of the syrian victories occured thanks to soviet aircrafts. You can notice that as, Israel, during the air battle war in 1973, just only 5 air to air arabs victories occured. Figures completly stupid as we will see next.

http://www.acig.info/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=34&Itemid=47
List of confirmed, claimed, and probable air-to-air victories scored by Syrian pilots since 1948

Last Update: 22 April, 2006
Date Unit Aircraft Pilot Weapon Victim Country
10Jul48 T-6 Harvard M.a-Din Wadi (gunner) 7.62mm S-199 101Sqn/IDF/AF
6Nov56 Meteor F.Mk.8 al-Garudy 20mm Canberra PR.Mk.7* RAF (shared)
6Nov56 Meteor F.Mk.8 Assasa 20mm Canberra PR.Mk.7* RAF (shared)
5Jun67 MiG-17F Z.el-Baowab 23/37mm SMB.2 105Sqn/IDF/AF (pilot Sigiri)
5Jun67 3 Sqn MiG-17F M.A.Qubaisi 23/37mm SMB.2 105Sqn/IDF/AF (pilot: Mordechai)
5Jun67 5 Sqn MiG-21PF H. 2xR-3S Vautour 110Sqn/IDF/AF
5Jun67 5 Sqn MiG-21PF ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ 101Sqn/IDF/AF
5Jun67 77 Sqn MiG-19S G.el-Wazwazy 23/37mm Mystére IDF/AF
5Jun67 MiG-17F ? debris Mirage IIICJ ?Sqn/IDF/AF (Hankin OK)
6Jun67 77 Sqn MiG-19S S.Fathi 30mm SMB.2 IDF/AF (damaged)
7Jun67 MiG-21 R-3S Mirage IIICJ 29 IDF/AF (Dothan OK)
24Feb69 MiG-21FL R-3S Vatour IIN IDF/AF (damaged)
8Feb70 MiG-21FL R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged)
2Mar70 MiG-21FL R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
2Apr70 MiG-21PFM B.Hamshu R-3S F-4E 69Sqn/IDF/AF (Magen/Nahmani)
26Jun70 MiG-21 ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ ?Sqn/IDF/AF (Eitan PoW)
4Nov71 MiG-21FL F.Mansour? R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (Slapak?)
14Nov71 MiG-21FL ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
8Jan73 MiG-21MF R-3S Mirage IIICJ 68 117Sqn/IDF/AF
13Sep73 MiG-21FL A.el-Gar R-3S RF-4E IDF/AF
13Sep73 MiG-21FL Halabi R-3S Nesher S IDF/AF (pilot Simchoni)
13Sep73 MiG-21FL A.el-Gar R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
6Oct73 5 Sqn MiG-21MF B.Hamshu R-3S A-4E IDF/AF
6Oct73 5 Sqn MiG-21MF ? R-3S "Mirage" IDF/AF
7Oct73 5 Sqn MiG-21MF M. Badawi R-3S F-4E 177? 69Sqn/IDF/AF (Alkalai/Wolfson Pow)
7Oct73 MiG-21FL Kokach R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
7Oct73 MiG-21 ? R-3S F-4E 615 201Sqn/IDF/AF
7Oct73 MiG-21FL EAF Pilot 23/37mm F-4E IDF/AF (damaged)
7Oct73 MiG-21FL ? A-4E IDF/AF
7Oct73 MiG-21FL Sarkees R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
7Oct73 MiG-21FL Dauvara R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged)
7Oct73 MiG-21FL Dibbs R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
7Oct73 5 Sqn MiG-21MF B.Hamshu 23mm A-4E IDF/AF
7Oct73 5 Sqn MiG-21MF B.Hamshu 23mm Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (Lahav? KIA)
7Oct73 5 Sqn MiG-21MF ? R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
8Oct73 MiG-21FL al-Hamidi R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
8Oct73 MiG-21FL Asaf R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
8Oct73 MiG-21FL Kahwaji R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
8Oct73 MiG-21FL Jelyi R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
8Oct73 MiG-21FL al-Zo'aby R-3S A-4E IDF/AF
9Oct73 MiG-21FL A. el-Gar R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
8Oct73 5 Sqn MiG-21MF Kokach R-3S RF-4E IDF/AF
9Oct73 MiG-21FL A. el-Gar R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
10Oct73 MiG-21FL G.E.Khaddam R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (Karmi? OK)
10Oct73 MiG-21FL G.E.Khaddam R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
10Oct73 MiG-21FL R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
10Oct73 MiG-21FL R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
10Oct73 MiG-21FL 23/37mm F-4E IDF/AF
11Oct73 5 Sqn MiG-21MF B.Hamshu 23mm A-4E IDF/AF
12Oct73 MiG-21FL M.Mansour R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (Roke’ach? OK)
12Oct73 MiG-21FL R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
12Oct73 MiG-21FL A.H. R-3S F-4E 201Sqn/IDF/AF (Regev/Shmueli OK)
12Oct73 MiG-? ? ? F-4E 151 107Sqn/IDF/AF (Goren/Oren recovered)
12Oct73 MiG-21FL M.Mansour R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
12Oct73 MiG-21FL R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
12Oct73 MiG-? ? ? F-4E 618 201Sqn/IDF/AF (Benaya/David recovered)
13Oct73 MiG-21FL R-3S Mirage IIICJ 74 IDF/AF (Lanir? KIA)
16Oct73 MiG-21FL Asaf R-3S Nesher S IDF/AF
16Oct73 MiG-21FL A.el-Gar R-3S+23mm F-4E* IDF/AF (shared)
16Oct73 MiG-21FL Zo'aby R-3S+23mm F-4E* IDF/AF (shared)
17Oct73 MiG-21FL Kokach R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
17Oct73 MiG-21FL el-Ali R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
17Oct73 MiG-21 ? fuel starvation Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (Adar OK)
18Oct73 MiG-17F N.Galaby 23/37mm F-4E IDF/AF
20Oct73 MiG-21MF ? R-3S F-4E 142 119Sqn/IDF/AF (Sagi/Bartov)
21Oct73 5 Sqn MiG-21MF al-Hamidi R-3S F-4E 201Sqn/IDF/AF (Barnea/Harau)
22Oct73 8 Sqn MiG-21MF al-Taweel R-3S Nesher S IDF/AF
22Oct73 8 Sqn MiG-21MF A.el-Gar R-3S Nesher S IDF/AF
22Oct73 8 Sqn MiG-21MF E.al-Masry R-3S Nesher S IDF/AF
22Oct73 8 Sqn MiG-21MF al-Taweel R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
23Oct73 MiG-21 Shakruw R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
23Oct73 MiG-21 S.Habal R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
26Oct73 MiG-21MF M.Mansour R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
15Apr74 MiG-21 ? Mirage IIICJ 52 IDF/AF
19Apr74 MiG-23MS E.al-Masry R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
19Apr74 MiG-23MS E.al-Masry R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
19Apr74 MiG-21MF M.Mansour R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
19Apr74 MiG-21MF M.Mansour R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
26Apr74 67 Sqn MiG-21F-13 S.Alvi (PAF) Mirage IIIRJ IDF/AF (Note 1)
4Jun74 MiG-21MF ? Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
26Apr81 MiG-21MF R-13M A-4E IDF/AF
26Apr81 MiG-23MS ? R-13M A-4E IDF/AF
29Jun81 1 FIS MiG-25PD(e) R-40R F-15 IDF/AF
6Jun82 MiG-23MF Zachariah R-23R BQM-34 IDF/AF
7Jun82 MiG-23MF Merza R-23R F-16A IDF/AF
7Jun82 MiG-23MF Merza R-23R F-16A IDF/AF
8Jun82 MiG-23MF Hau R-23R F-16A IDF/AF
8Jun82 MiG-23MF Hau R-23R F-16A IDF/AF
8Jun82 MiG-21 A-4H IDF/AF
8Jun82 MiG-21 A-4H IDF/AF
9Jun82 MiG-21bis Harra R-60 F-15D IDF/AF (damaged)
9Jun82 MiG-23MF Deeb R-23R F-16A IDF/AF
9Jun82 MiG-23MF Nahhas R-23R F-16A IDF/AF
9Jun82 MiG-21bis R-60 Kfir C.2 IDF/AF
9Jun82 MiG-23MF Ali F-4E* IDF/AF (shared)
9Jun82 MiG-23MF Toma F-4E* IDF/AF (shared)
10Jun82 MiG-21bis ? R-13M F-4E IDF/AF
11Jun82 MiG-23MF al-Kherat R-13M F-4E IDF/AF
11Jun82 MiG-23MF Zo'aby R-13M F-4E IDF/AF
11Jun82 MiG-21bis R-60 F-4E IDF/AF
11Jun82 MiG-23MF R-24R E-2C IDF/AF
3Jul82 MiG-21bis F-15 IDF/AF
??Oct82 5 Sqn MiG-21MF al-Masry R-60 RF-4E IDF/AF (damaged)
4Dec83 MiG-23ML F-15 IDF/AF
4Dec83 MiG-23ML F-4E IDF/AFF
21Oct89 MiG-21bis 23mm BN-2A-3 Islander (TC-KUN, c/n 272) TGDLR (Note 2)
??Apr02 ? MiG-23ML/S ? R-60? UAV IDF/AF

Additional infos from:

Yasser al-Abed and Hubert Seliger

Note 1:

The IDF-AF lost no Mirage IIICJ or IIIRJ (recce-version) on this day. It is possible, however, that there is a mix-up in relation to the date, and that this Pakistani claim stands in some relation with the loss of an IDF/AF Mirage IIIRJ on 6 May 1974.

Note 2:

Turkish Photographic-survey aircraft of type Britten-Norman BN-2A-3 Islander, belonging to Turkish General Directorate of Land Registry (annexed unit of Ministry of Public Works and Settlement) - hence an unarmed government aircraft - was shot down by two Syrian MiG-21 (which violated Turkish airspace) in Samandag District of Hatay, Turkey, killing a crew of two and three technicians. Special thanks to Mr. Kursad A., Mr. Feridun Tasdan, and Mr. Turhan Gungor for details.

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Middle East air war: Israel

nemrod Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:10 pm

http://www.acig.info/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=199&Itemid=47

Israeli Air-to-Air Victories in 1973 PDF Print E-mail
Contributed by ACIG Team
May 11, 2009 at 09:50 PM
List of confirmed, claimed, and probable air-to-air victories scored by the Israeli pilots in October 1973

Last Update: 19 May, 2003
Date Unit Aircraft Crew Weapon Victim Unit/Nation
6Oct73 ?? Sqn F-4E M.Melnik/I.Amitai ? AS-5 EAF
6Oct73 ?? Sqn F-4E M.Melnik/I.Amitai ? AS-5 EAF
6Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ 59 E.Carmi 30mm AS-5 EAF
6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Nahumi AIM-9D MiG-17F 201AW/EAF
6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Nahumi 20mm MiG-17F 201AW/EAF
6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Nahumi AIM-9D MiG-17F 201AW/EAF
6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Nahumi AIM-9D MiG-17F 201AW/EAF
6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E D.Shaki AIM-9D MiG-17F 201AW/EAF
6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E D.Shaki AIM-9D MiG-17F 201AW/EAF
6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E D.Shaki AIM-9D MiG-17F 201AW/EAF
6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E D.Shaki maneuver MiG-17F 201AW/EAF
6Oct73 1?? Sqn Mirage IIICJ Y.Nir Shafrir Mk.2 Su-7BMK 223AW/EAF
6Oct73 1?? Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Harish Shafrir Mk.2 Su-7BMK 223AW/EAF
6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S Y.Keidar Shafrir Mk.2 Su-7BMK EAF
6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S Y.Keidar 30mm Su-7BMK EAF
6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S A.Y.Shavit ? Su-7BMK EAF
6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S M.Sharon 30mm MiG-21 EAF
6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S M.Sharon Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-17F EAF
6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S A.Ben-Nun ? MiG-21 EAF
6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S O.Marom ? MiG-21 SyAAF
6Oct73 201 Sqn F-4E S.Egozi/R.Manof AIM-9D Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 201 Sqn F-4E S.Egozi/R.Manof AIM-9D Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 201 Sqn F-4E S.Egozi/R.Manof AIM-9D Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 201 Sqn F-4E S.Egozi/R.Manof 20mm Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 201 Sqn F-4E S.Egozi/R.Manof AIM-9D Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E D.Yoffe/? AIM-9D+20mm Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E D.Yoffe/? jetwash Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E B-A.Peri/I.Amitai AIM-9D Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E B-A.Peri/I.Amitai AIM-9D Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E B-A.Peri/I.Amitai 20mm Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E B-A.Peri/I.Amitai ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E E.Peled/?? ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E E.Peled/?? ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher A.Gilad ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher A.Gilad ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E ? ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E ? ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E ? ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E ? ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E ? ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 201 Sqn F-4E ? ? MiG-17F ?AW/EAF
6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S A.Ben-Nun ? MiG-21 EAF
6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S M.Shmul ? MiG-21 EAF
7Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E R.Goren 30mm Mi-8 EAF
7Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ O.Marom 30mm Su-7BMK 5Sqn/IrAF
7Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ E.Carmi ? MiG-21 EAF
7Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ O.Marom ? Hunter F.Mk.59 702Sqn/IrAF
7Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Lapidot ? MiG-21 EAF
7Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E Z.Raz ? MiG-21 SyAAF
7Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E J.Feldschuh ? MiG-21 EAF
7Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ T.Vered ? MiG-21 9Sqn/IrAF
7Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher Y.Kheidar? Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 EAF
7Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher Y.Kheidar? Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 EAF
7Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E ??/?? ? Su-7BMK QJJ
8Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S D.Sever Shafrir Mk.2 Su-7BMK EAF
8Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher S M.Hertz 30mm MiG-21 EAF
8Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher M.Hertz ? MiG-21* EAF (shared)
8Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher E.Carmi ? MiG-21* EAF (shared)
8Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher E.Carmi ? MiG-21 EAF
8Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Dagan ? MiG-17 SyAAF
8Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher Y.Geva 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
8Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher E.Yiari AIM-9D MiG-21 SyAAF
8Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher A.Ben-Nun ? MiG-21 EAF
8Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher A.Cohen Shafrir Mk.2 Su-20 EAF
8Oct73 113 Sqn Mirage IIICJ M.Katz Shafrir Mk.2 Su-7BMK EAF
8Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher A.Lanir ? MiG-17 SyAAF
8Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher A.Lanir ? MiG-17 SyAAF
8Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E E.Ben-Eliyahu ? MiG-21 EAF
8Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Shalmon AIM-9D Hunter F.Mk.59 702Sqn/IrAF
8Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Shalmon 30mm Hunter F.Mk.59 702Sqn/IrAF
8Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ 58 O.Marom 30mm Hunter F.Mk.59 702Sqn/IrAF
8Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ 58 O.Marom ? MiG-17 SyAAF
9Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Harish ? MiG-17 SyAAF
9Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Harish ? MiG-17 SyAAF
9Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ T.Vered 30mm Mi-8 SyAAF
9Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ K.Richter 30mm Mi-8 SyAAF
9Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ O.Marom ? ? SyAAF
9Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E G.Regev/E.Shmueli ? MiG-21 SyAAF
9Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage/Nesher ? ? Hunter F.Mk.59 702Sqn/IrAF
9Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage/Nesher ? ? MiG-21PF 9Sqn/IrAF
9Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage/Nesher ? ? MiG-21PF 9Sqn/IrAF
10Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E Y.Spector ? MiG-21 EAF
10Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E O.Afek/Z.Zeevi ? MiG-21 SyAAF
10Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E N.Maimon/O.Polig ? MiG-21 SyAAF
10Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher D.Tavor ? MiG-21 EAF
10Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher ? ? Su-7 EAF
10Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher ? ? Su-7 EAF
10Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher ? ? Su-7 EAF
10Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher ? ? Su-7 EAF
10Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher ? ? Su-7 EAF
10Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher ? ? Su-7 EAF
10Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher ? ? Su-7 EAF
10Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ Y.Koren 30mm MiG-17 SyAAF
10Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ I.Baharav ? MiG-17 SyAAF
11Oct73 69 Sqn F-4E ??/?? ? MiG-21 EAF
11Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E ??/?? 30mm MiG SyAAF
11Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Rokach ? MiG-21 SyAAF
11Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Rokach 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
12Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher S.Levi Shafrir Mk.2 Su-7BMK 54Sqn/SyAAF
12Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher S.Levi Shafrir Mk.2 Su-7BMK 54Sqn/SyAAF
12Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher S.Levi 30mm Su-7BMK 54Sqn/SyAAF
12Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Rokach 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
12Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Rokach 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
12Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ 58 A.Lanir 30mm MiG-17 SyAAF
12Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Sion ? Su-7BMK 54Sqn/SyAAF
13Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E D.Halutz/?? 30mm MiG-21 EAF
13Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Nahumi/?? ? MiG-21PF 9Sqn/IrAF
13Oct73 69 Sqn F-4E ??/?? ? MiG-21PF 9Sqn/IrAF
13Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ Y.Koren ? Hunter F.Mk.59 702Sqn/IrAF
13Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ Y.Koren ? Su-7BMK 5Sqn/IrAF
13Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage ? ? Su-7BMK 5Sqn/IrAF
13Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage ? ? Su-7BMK 5Sqn/IrAF
13Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher M.Hertz Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21MF 17Sqn/IrAF
13Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher ? ? MiG-21MF 17Sqn/IrAF
13Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher ? ? MiG-21PF 9Sqn/IrAF
13Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher ? ? MiG-21PF 9Sqn/IrAF
13Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Lanir ? MiG-17 SyAAF
13Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E N.Maimon/I.Raz ? MiG-21 EAF
13Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E N.Maimon/I.Raz 30mm MiG-21 EAF
14Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E E.Ben-Eliyahu 20mm MiG-21MF 104AW/EAF
14Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Nahumi AIM-9D MiG-21MF 104AW/EAF
14Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Nahumi 20mm MiG-21MF 104AW/EAF
14Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher A.Ben-Nun 30mm MiG-21 EAF
14Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher U.Aven-Nir ? MiG-21 EAF
14Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E Y.Spector 20mm MiG-21 EAF
15Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E Y.Spector 20mm MiG-21 EAF
15Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Snir/A.Katz 20mm MiG-21 EAF
15Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher Y.Sela ? F-4E IDF/AF
16Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ H.Bodinger ? MiG-17 SyAAF
16Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher S.Levi ? MiG-17 EAF
16Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher S.Levi ? MiG-17 EAF
16Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher ?? ? MiG-17 EAF
16Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher ?? ? MiG-17 EAF
16Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher A.Cohen ? MiG-17 EAF
16Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher A.Cohen ? MiG-21* EAF (shared)
16Oct73 114 Sqn Nesher ?? ? MiG-21* EAF (shared)
16Oct73 114 Sqn Nesher A.Cohen ? MiG-21 EAF
16Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ Y.Koren ? MiG-21 SyAAF
16Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Sever 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
17Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher M.Hertz 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
17Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Harish ? MiG-17 EAF
17Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Harish ? MiG-21 EAF
17Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Harish ? MiG-21 EAF
17Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E M.Melnik/E.Lior ? MiG-21 SyAAF
17Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E M.Melnik/E.Lior ? MiG-21 SyAAF
17Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E A.Snir/C.Katz ? MiG-21* SyAAF (shared)
17Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E M.Melnik/ ? MiG-21* SyAAF (shared)
17Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ 58 M.Tzuk ? MiG-21 SyAAF
18Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher S.Levi Shafrir Mirage 5D EAF/LARAF
18Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher ? maneuver Mirage 5D EAF/LARAF
18Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher ? ? Mirage 5D EAF/LARAF
18Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Harish ? MiG-21 EAF
18Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher G.Aven 30mm Mi-8 EAF
18Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ M.Tzuk 30mm MiG-21 EAF
18Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ G.Livni 30mm MiG-21 EAF
19Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher M.Hertz ? MiG-17 EAF
19Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher M.Hertz ? MiG-17 EAF
19Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher M.Hertz ? MiG-17 EAF
19Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher 61 G.Aven AIM-9D Su-7BMK EAF
19Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher 61 G.Aven Shafrir Mk.2 Su-7BMK EAF
19Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher 61 G.Aven ? Su-20 EAF
19Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher 61 G.Aven ? Su-20 EAF
19Oct73 ??? Sqn ?? U.Aven-Nir ? MiG-21 EAF
19Oct73 ??? Sqn ?? U.Aven-Nir ? MiG-21 EAF
20Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher G.Aven Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 EAF
20Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher G.Aven Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 EAF
20Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher G.Aven 30mm MiG-21 EAF
20Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher G.Aven 30mm MiG-21 EAF
20Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher Y.Geva 30mm MiG-21 EAF
21Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E D.Halutz/Y.Gal ? MiG-21 SyAAF
21Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E N.Merchavi/?? ? MiG-21 EAF
21Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher Harry 30mm MiG-21 EAF
21Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher S.Levi Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 EAF
21Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher S.Levi Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 EAF
21Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher Y.Geva ? MiG-21 EAF
21Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ U.Even-Nir 30mm Mirage 5D EAF/LARAF
22Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher Avik ? MiG-21 EAF
22Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher S.Lahat ? MiG-21 EAF
22Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher S.Lahat ? MiG-21 EAF
22Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher Sari ? MiG-21 EAF
22Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher G.Livni ? MiG-17 EAF
22Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher G.Livni ? MiG-17 EAF
22Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ M.Tzuk ? L-29 EAF
22Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher S.Levi Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 SyAAF
22Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher S.Levi Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 SyAAF
22Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ E.Carmi 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
23Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ H.Bodinger 30mm MiG-21 EAF
23Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ H.Bodinger 30mm MiG-21 EAF
23Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ G.Livni ? MiG-21 EAF
23Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ H.Bodinger 30mm MiG-21 EAF
23Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ I.Baharav 30mm MiG-21 EAF
23Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E Y.Stavi ? MiG-21 SyAAF
23Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E D.Halutz/Y.Gal ? MiG-21 SyAAF
23Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E D.Halutz/Y.Gal 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
23Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Nahumi/?? 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
23Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher A.Cohen 30mm MiG-17 EAF
24Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIIBJ 86 G.Aven AIM-9D MiG-21 EAF
24Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIIBJ 86 G.Aven AIM-9D MiG-21 EAF
24Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIIBJ 86 G.Aven 30mm MiG-21 EAF
24Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher I.Baharav 30mm MiG-21 EAF
24Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher I.Baharav 30mm MiG-21 EAF
24Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ E.Carmi ? MiG-21 EAF
24Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ E.Carmi ? MiG-21 EAF
24Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ E.Carmi ? MiG-21 EAF
24Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ I.Gonen Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 EAF
24Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ I.Gonen 30mm MiG-21 EAF
24Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ S.Gordon ? Su-7BMK 223AW/EAF
24Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Shalmon ? MiG-21 EAF
24Oct73 1?? Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Eschchar 30mm MiG-21 EAF
24Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ M.Tzuk ? MiG-21 EAF
24Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher 11 E.Ye’ari ? MiG-21* EAF (shared)
24Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ 51 D.Sever ? MiG-21* EAF (shared)

Confirmed entries are in GREEN
New entries are in RED
Corrected entries are in YELLOW
Fratricide entries are in LIGHT BLUE
Claims and unconfirmed entries are in WHITE
Damaged and Close Calls entries are in VIOLET

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Post n°3

Middle East air war: Israel (2)

nemrod Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:11 pm

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Israeli Air-to-Air Victories since 1974 PDF Print E-mail
Contributed by ACIG Team
May 11, 2009 at 10:07 PM
List of confirmed, claimed, and probable air-to-air victories scored by the Israeli pilots since 1974

Last Update: 9 February 2014
Date Unit Aircraft Pilot Weapon Victim Country
19Apr74 Mirage IIICJ 58 A. Shalmon Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21F-13 67Sqn/SyAAF
19Apr74 Mirage IIICJ 58 A.Shalmon 30mm MiG-21 67Sqn/SyAAF
29Apr74 F-4E AIM-7F MiG-21 SyAF
29Apr74 F-4E 101 AIM-7F MiG-21 SyAAF
29Apr74 F-4E AIM-9D MiG-21 SyAF
29Apr74 F-4E AIM-9D MiG-21 SyAF
27Jun79 133 Sqn F-15A M.Melnik AIM-9 MiG-21MF SyAAF (shared)
27Jun79 133 Sqn F-15A E.Ben-Eliyahu 20mm MiG-21MF SyAAF
27Jun79 133 Sqn F-15A Y.Fladshow AIM-7F MiG-21MF SyAAF
27Jun79 133 Sqn F-15A Y.Peled AIM-9 MiG-21MF SyAAF
27Jun79 101 Sqn Kfir C.2 Eshel Shafrir-II MiG-21MF SyAAF (shared)
27Jun79 133 Sqn F-15A G.Golan AIM-9 MiG-21MF SyAAF (shared)
24Sep79 133 Sqn F-15A 659 ? AIM-9 MiG-21MF SyAAF
24Sep79 133 Sqn F-15A 692 ? 20mm MiG-21MF SyAAF
24Sep79 133 Sqn F-15A MiG-21 SyAAF
24Sep79 133 Sqn F-15A MiG-21 SyAAF
24Aug80 133 Sqn F-15A MiG-21 SyAAF
24Aug80 133 Sqn F-15A MiG-21 SyAAF
31Dec80 133 Sqn F-15 Y. Peled AIM-7F MiG-21 SyAAF
31Dec80 133 Sqn F-15 MiG-21 SyAAF
4Jan81 119 Sqn F-4E(S) 498 G.Sheffer Maneuver MiG-21MF 84FS/IrAF
13Feb81 133 Sqn F-15 B.Zinker AIM-7F MiG-25PD 1FS/SyAAF
28Apr81 117 Sqn F-16A 112 Rafi 20mm Mi-8 SyAAF
28Apr81 117 Sqn F-16A Z.Raz or D. Yoffe AIM-9L Mi-8 SyAAF
28Apr81 110 Sqn F-16A Z.Raz or D. Yoffe AGM-65 Mi-8 SyAAF
14May81 200 Sqn IAI Scout UAV Maneuver MiG-21MF SyAAF
14Jul81 110 Sqn F-16A 219 A. Nahumi AIM-9P MiG-21 SyAAF
29Jul81 133 Sqn F-15A AIM-7F MiG-25PD 1FS/SyAAF
20Apr82 133 sqn F-15A MiG-23BN SyAF
20Apr82 133 sqn F-15A MiG-23BN SyAF
25May82 133 sqn F-15 AIM-7F MiG-21 SyAF
25May82 133 sqn F-15 AIM-7F MiG-21 SyAF
26May82 117 sqn F-16 Z.Raz AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAF
26May82 117 sqn F-16 Z.Raz AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAF
26May82 117 sqn F-16 AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAF
6Jun82 133 sqn F-15A AIM-7F MiG-23MS SyAF
7Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A 658 O.Lapidot Python-3 MiG-23 SyAAF
7Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A 646 ? ? MiG-23 SyAAF
7Jun82 F-16 MiG-23MF SyAF
8Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 Y. Peled AIM-7F MiG-21 SyAAF
8Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 Y. Peled Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
8Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 MiG-23 SyAF
8Jun82 F-16 MiG-23BN SyAF
8Jun82 F-16 Python-3 MiG-23BN SyAF
8Jun82 F-16 Python-3 MiG-23BN SyAAF
8Jun82 F-16 Python-3 MiG-23BN SyAAF
8Jun82 F-16 20mm MiG-21 SyAAF
8Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 AIM-9L MiG-23BN SyAAF
9Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A 646 "R" AIM-9L MiG-23MF SyAAF
9Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A 646 "R" manoeuver MiG-21MF SyAAF
9Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A 646 "R" manoeuver MiG-21MF SyAAF
9Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 Y. Peled Python-3 MiG-21 SyAAF
9Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A 695 MiG-21 SyAAF
9Jun82 133 sqn F-15 "R" AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAF
9Jun82 133 sqn F-15 MiG-21 SyAF
9Jun82 133 sqn F-15 MiG-21 SyAF
9Jun82 133 sqn F-15 MiG-23 SyAF
9Jun82 133 sqn F-15 MiG-23 SyAF
9Jun82 133 sqn F-15 MiG-23 SyAF
9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAAF
9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAAF
9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAAF
9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAAF
9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAAF
9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAAF
9Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A A.Nahumi Python-III MiG-2? SyAAF
9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A Z.Raz AAM MiG-2? SyAAF
9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? ? MiG-2? SyAAF
9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? ? MiG-2? SyAAF
9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? ? MiG-2? SyAAF
9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? ? MiG-2? SyAAF
9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? ? MiG-2? SyAAF
9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? ? MiG-2? SyAAF
9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? ? MiG-2? SyAAF
9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A E.Shkedi AIM-9L MiG-2? SyAAF
9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A E.Shkedi AIM-9L MiG-2? SyAAF (shared)
10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 "F" MiG-21 SyAAF
10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 Y.Fladshow MiG-21 SyAAF
10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 X ? MiG-21 SyAAF
10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 X ? MiG-21 SyAAF
10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 X ? MiG-21 SyAAF
10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 X ? MiG-21 SyAAF
10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 Y.Peled AIM-7F MiG-23 SyAAF
10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 Y.Peled AIM-7F MiG-23 SyAAF
10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 ? AIM-9L SA.342 SyAAF
10Jun82 ? Sqn F-16A ? Python-III SA.342 SyAAF
10Jun82 ? Sqn F-16A ? Python-III SA.342 SyAAF
10Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A A.Nahumi Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
10Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A A.Nahumi Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
10Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A ? Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
10Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A ? Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
10Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A ? Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
10Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A ? Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
10Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A ? Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
10Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A Ethan AIM-9L MiG-23MF SyAAF
10Jun82 105 Sqn F-4E Ben-Ami Peri Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
11Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A 658 O.Lapidot Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
11Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A 646 ? ? MiG-21 SyAAF
11Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 ? AIM-7F MiG-23 SyAAF
11Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 ? AIM-7F MiG-23 SyAAF
11Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 ? 20mm MiG-21 SyAAF
11Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 ? 20mm MiG-21 SyAAF
11Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A ? Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
11Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A ? Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A 258 Rafi 20mm MiG-23MS SyAAF
11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A 258 Rafi 20mm MiG-23MS SyAAF
11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A 258 Rafi 20mm MiG-21bis SyAAF
11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A ? 20mm MiG-21bis SyAAF
11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A 107 Ethan AIM-9L MiG-23BN SyAAF
11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A ? AIM-9L MiG-23BN SyAAF
11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A ? AIM-9L MiG-23BN SyAAF
11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A 107 Ethan AIM-9L MiG-23BN SyAAF
11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A 107 Ethan 20mm Su-22M-2K SyAAF
11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A 107 Ethan AIM-9L SA.342M Gazelle SyAAF
24Jun82 F-16A Python-III MiG-23BN SyAF
24Jun82 F-16A Python-III MiG-23BN SyAAF
25Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A MiG-23MF SyAAF
25Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A MiG-23MF SyAAF
2Jul82 133 Sqn F-15C ? AAM MiG-21bis SyAAF
2Jul82 133 Sqn F-15C ? AAM MiG-21bis SyAAF
31Aug82 133 Sqn F-15 MiG-25RB SyAAF
20Nov85 106 Sqn F-15D 957 N. Ronen MiG-23ML SyAAF
20Nov85 106 Sqn F-15D 957 N. Ronen MiG-23ML SyAAF
2Jun89 106 Sqn F-15C ? AAM MiG-29A 697FS/SyAAF
2Jun89 106 Sqn F-15C ? AAM MiG-29A 697FS/SyAAF
24May01 127 Sqn AH-64 Hellfire Cessna Civilian
14Sep01 106 Sqn F-15C ? Python-IV MiG-29A SyAAF
14Sep01 106 Sqn F-15C ? AIM-9M MiG-29A SyAAF
7Aug06 110 Sqn F-16C 364 ? Python-V Misrad-1 (Ababil 3) UAV Hezbollah
13Aug06 109 Sqn F-16D 074 ? Python-V Misrad-1 (Ababil 3) UAV Hezbollah
16Dec10 ? F-16 ? ? baloon ?
Nov11 ? F-16 ? ? Seeker UAV Hezbollah
06Oct12 201 Sqn F-16I 844 ? 2 x Python-V UAV Hezbollah
25Apr13 117 Sqn F-16 C ? Python-V UAV Hezbollah

Credits:

'Israeli Fighter Aces' Peter B. Mersky Specialtypress 1997

*Shared kill

Notes:

14 May 81: The Syrian MiG-21 tried to tip the UAV with it's wing but stalled out and crashed

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Post n°4

Middle East air war: Egypt - Syria

nemrod Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:13 pm

You could notice that most the egyptian air to air victories was du to the exceptional and very effective Mig-21.

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Egyptian Air-to-Air Victories since 1948 PDF Print E-mail
Contributed by ACIG Team
Feb 20, 2008 at 12:03 PM
List of confirmed, claimed, and probable air-to-air victories scored by the Egyptian pilots since 1948

Last Update: 11 August, 2004

Date Unit Aircraft Pilot Weapon Victim Air Force
22May48 1 sqn Spitfire LF.9 20mm Dakota RAF
4Jun48 1 sqn Hawker Fury Abu Zayd 20mm Argus IDF/AF
7Jun48 1 sqn Hawker Fury Abu Zayd 20mm Auster J-1 IDF/AF
25Jun48 6 sqn Spitfire V Forced land Auster UN
9Jul48 3 sqn Lysender M.Miqati Maneuver Avia S-199 IDF/AF
16Oct48 1 sqn Spitfire V 20mm Avia S-199 IDF/AF
16Oct48 1 sqn Spitfire V 20mm Avia S-199 IDF/AF
19Oct48 1 sqn Hawker Fury Abu Zayd 20mm Beaufighter IDF/AF**
28Dec48 1 sqn Spitfire LF.9 20mm Piper Cub IDF/AF
28Dec48 1 sqn Spitfire 20mm Avia S-199 IDF/AF
28Dec48 1 sqn Spitfire 20mm Spitfire IDF/AF** (Dam)
30Dec48 2 sqn Macchi MC205V 20mm Fighter IDF/AF*
30Dec48 2 sqn Macchi MC205V 20mm Fighter IDF/AF*
7Jan49 2 sqn Macchi MC205V 20mm P-51D IDF/AF*
30Oct56 1 sqn MiG-15 23/37mm Piper Cub IDF/AF
30Oct56 1 sqn MiG-15 Manoeuver Meteor 117 sqn IDF/AF
30Oct56 1 sqn MiG-17 23/37mm Mystere IVA IDF/AF** (Dam)
30Oct56 1 sqn MiG-17 23/37mm Mystere IVA IDF/AF**
30Oct56 1 sqn MiG-17 23/37mm Mystere IVA IDF/AF*
31Oct56 1 sqn MiG-15 23/37mm Ouragan IDF/AF*
31Oct56 1 sqn MiG-15 23/37mm Ouragan IDF/AF** (Dam)
31Oct56 1 sqn MiG-15 F.al-Ghazzavi 23/37mm Ouragan IDF/AF**
31Oct56 10 Sqn Meteor NF.Mk.13 CO 10 Sqn EAF 30mm Valiant RAF (evaded)
1Nov56 ? Sqn MiG-15 ? 23/37mm Canberra Pr.Mk.7 WH801 RAF (dam.)
3Nov56 5 Sqn? Meteor F.Mk.4 or 8 ? 30mm F-4U Corsair 14F Aéronavale
4Nov59 MiG-17F Maneuver SMB.2 IDF/AF
14Feb60 MiG-17F 23/37mm Mystére IVA IDF/AF
Nov65 2 sqn MiG-17F N.al-Masri 23/37mm Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged)
5Jun67 MiG-21PF R-3S SMB.2 105Sqn IDF/AF
5Jun67 MiG-21PF A.Hamdi R-3S SMB.2 105Sqn IDF/AF
5Jun67 42 or 45 Sqn MiG-21PF A.M.Mursi R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
5Jun67 42 or 45 Sqn MiG-21PF A.M.Mursi R-3S Mirage IIICJ ?Sqn IDF/AF
5Jun67 Fuel Starvation Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
5Jun67 MiG-21PF N.Shoukry R-3S Mirage IIICJ ?Sqn/IDF/AF (Neuman KIA)
5Jun67 20/21 Sqn MiG-19S F.Selim 30mm Noratlas 103Sqn IDF/AF
5Jun67 20/21 Sqn MiG-19S A.R.Sidki 30mm Noratlas 103Sqn IDF/AF
5Jun67 UARAF SAM SA-2 - S-75 MiG-21 42 or 45Sqn/UARAF
6Jun67 MiG-21FL A.Nasr S-5K 57mm rockets SMB.2 IDF/AF
6Jun67 55 Sqn Su-7B Khamis 30mm Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
6Jun67 Su-7B 30mm S-58 IDF/AF (forced down)
6Jun67 Su-7B R-3S S-58 124Sqn/IDF/AF (forced down)
6Jun67 SyAAF MiG-19S Fathi 30mm Nordatlas 103Sqn/IDF/AF
7Jun67 MiG-17F 30mm SMB.2 105Sqn/IDF/AF (pilot Shochat)
8Jun67 MiG-17F SMB.2 105Sqn/IDF/AF
8Jun67 MiG-21 fuel starvation Mirage IIICJ ?Sqn/IDF/AF (Poraz OK)
5Jul67 MiG-21F-13 Mirage IDF/AF (damaged)
5Jul67 MiG-21F-13 Mirage IDF/AF (damaged)
15Jul67 Big Sqn MiG-21F-13 R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (Egozi OK)
3Apr68 MiG-21FL Wafai R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged)
23Oct68 MiG-21PF Mirage IDF/AF
23Oct68 MiG-21PF Mirage IDF/AF
23Oct68 MiG-21PF Mirage IDF/AF
3Nov68 26Sqn MiG-21PF S.Marei R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (pilot?)
3Mar69 ?Sqn MiG-21PF ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged?)
8Mar69 ?Sqn MiG-21PF ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged?)
2Apr69 MiG-21FL R-3S SMB.2 IDF/AF
14Apr69 MiG-21PF S.A.Mikhail R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged; pilot Rozen)
19May69 MiG-19 A.Rami 30mm Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (pilot?)
22May69 25Sqn MiG-21PF Mani R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (pilot?)
26Jun69 MiG-21FL Abdallah R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
30Jun69 102AB MiG-21PFS T.F.A.Allah R-3S Mirage IIICJ ?Sqn/IDF/AF
30Jun69 26 Sqn MiG-21F-13 ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ ?Sqn/IDF/AF
30Jun69 26 Sqn MiG-21F-13 ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ ?Sqn/IDF/AF
20Jul69 MiG-21FL ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ 45 117Sqn/IDF/AF (Zohar)
20Jul69 MiG-21FL R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (Ben-Eliyahu OK)
19Aug69 MiG-21FL ? R-3S A-4E IDF/AF
11Sep69 104AB MiG-21PFM S.A.Mikhail R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (pilot Weintraub)
11Sep69 104AB MiG-21PFM F.Salama R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (pilot G.Rom)
11Sep69 104AB MiG-21FL Ghema R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (pilot Roun)
9Dec69 MiG-21F-13 A.Atif R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
9Dec69 MiG-21 ? R-3S Mirage IDF/AF
9Dec69 MiG-21 ? R-3S Mirage IDF/AF
8Feb70 MiG-21PFS R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
9Feb70 MiG-21PFS Urfan R-3S Mirage IIICJ 57 IDF/AF (Keldes PoW)
9Feb70 MiG-21PFS Ismail R-3S Mirage IDF/AF
2Mar70 MiG-21? ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ 70 117Sqn/IDF/AF (Neuner OK)
18Apr70 135AR MiG-21MF K.Korotyuk R-3S RF-4E IDF/AF **
8Jun70 ? MiG-21MF F.el-Ashmawy R-3S F-4E IDF/AF (Note 1)
8Jun70 ? MiG-21MF Rauf el-Din R-3S F-4E IDF/AF (Note 1)
8Jun70 135AR MiG-21 Oleg Tsoy R-3S F-4E IDF/AF (Note 1)
8Jun70 135AR MiG-21 Oleg Tsoy R-3S F-4E IDF/AF (Note 1)
20Jun70 MiG-21MF ? 3xR-3S A-4E IDF/AF
22Jun70 135AR MiG-21MF Salmikov R-3S A-4E IDF/AF*
27Jun70 ? MiG-21MF ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
23Jul70 135IAP MiG-21MF Salmikov R-3S A-4E IDF/AF (damaged)
30Jul70 135IAP MiG-21MF Ivlev R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged)
7Aug70 135IAP MiG-21MF Oleg Tsoy R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
4Nov71 MiG-21MF ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ 34 101Sqn/IDF/AF
14Nov71 MiG-21MF ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ 41 101Sqn/IDF/AF
13Jun72 MiG-21MF R-3S RF-4E IDF/AF (damaged)
6Oct73 MiG-17F ? 23/37mm F-4E IDF/AF*
6Oct73 MiG-21 Nesher IDF/AF*
7Oct73 MiG-17F ? Bell 205 IDF/AF*
7Oct73 104AB MiG-21MF K.al-Hamid F-4E IDF/AF
7Oct73 104AB MiG-21MF F-4E IDF/AF
7Oct73 MiG-21 R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
7Oct73 MiG-21 R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
7Oct73 MiG-21MF ? 23mm A-4E IDF/AF
8Oct73 MiG-21MF R-3S Nesher S '93' IDF/AF (Karmi OK)
8Oct73 SyAAF MiG-17F M. F. al-Jindi 23/37mm A-4E IDF/AF
8Oct73 SyAAF MiG-17F M. F. al-Jindi 23/37mm A-4E IDF/AF
8Oct73 MiG-21MF ? 2xR-3S F-4E IDF/AF
11Oct73 MiG-21MF R-3S/23mm F-4E 673 (68-0525) 201Sqn/IDF/AF (Ophir/Cohen KIA)
11Oct73 MiG-21MF 23mm F-4E 640 (68-0456) 201Sqn/IDF/AF (Hayon/Arad PoW)
11Oct73 45Sqn/104AB MiG-21PFS M.el-Malt R-3S or 23mm (gunpod) Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
14Oct73 104AB MiG-21MF N.Mussa 23mm F-4E IDF/AF
14Oct73 MiG-21MF K.el-Hamid 23mm F-4E IDF/AF
14Oct73 MiG-21MF A.Y.el-Wakeel 23mm F-4E IDF/AF
14Oct73 MiG-21MF M.Adoub 23mm F-4E IDF/AF
16Oct73 MiG-21 F-4E IDF/AF
16Oct73 MiG-17F Nesher IDF/AF (Kashtan KIA)
17Oct73 MiG-21MF Wafai 23mm Nesher IDF/AF
17Oct73 MiG-21MF R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
17Oct73 MiG-21MF R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
17Oct73 MiG-21PF ? 23mm (gunpod) Do.27 IDF/AF
17Oct73 MiG-? ? F-4E 620 201Sqn/IDF/AF (Samok/Golan)
18Oct73 MiG-17F Explosion Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (Note 2)
18Oct73 MiG-21MF ? R-3S+23mm F-4E 616 or 635 201Sqn/IDF/AF
20Oct73 MiG-21 Nesher IDF/AF (Katz OK)
21Oct73 MiG-21FL K.al-Hamid 23mm F-4E IDF/AF
21Oct73 102AB MiG-21MF N.Shoukry 23mm Nesher IDF/AF
21Oct73 102AB MiG-21MF ? ? Mirage/Nesher IDF/AF
21Oct73 102AB MiG-21MF ? ? Mirage/Nesher IDF/AF
21Oct73 102AB MiG-21MF ? ? Mirage/Nesher IDF/AF
21Oct73 102AB MiG-21MF D.el-Hefnawy ? Mirage/Nesher IDF/AF (Sheffer OK)
22Oct73 104AB MiG-21MF A.Wafai 23mm Nesher IDF/AF
22Oct73 104AB MiG-21MF A.Wafai R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
23Oct73 MiG-21 Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged)
23Oct73 MiG-21F-13 A.Atif 30mm F-4E IDF/AF
?Oct73 MiG-21MF Alaa Eddin R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
21Jul77 104AB MiG-21MF S.Mohammed MiG-23MS LARAF
22Jul77 MiG-21 Mi-8 LARAF
22Jul77 LARAF
22Jul77 LARAF
Nov79 104 FR MiG-21MF S.Mohammed AIM-9P MiG-23MS LARAF

Notes:

Note 1: the loss of two F-4E Phantoms on 8 June 1970 was credited to two EAF MiG-21 pilots by inofficial Israeli sources; according to official Israeli records not a single F-4E Phantom II was lost in the month of June 1970. Also, no pilots with given names are known within the Egyptian Air Force.

Note 2: Egyptian plane exploded in front of the Mirage IIICJ, forcing the Israeli pilot to land in Refidim.

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Middle East air war: Israel (3)

nemrod Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:13 pm

Well, I was very reluctant to put israelis figures in these topic about Middle east air war. If indeed in the case of war most of the armies used to lie. USSR lies, Poland lies, France lies, Nazis lied, and obviously West, and uncommunly US lies, and especially, and chieftly Israel.
Why does Israel understate its losses, and overstate its wins as this scale ? Because it is a vital question. Israel, as prefabricate state from nothing, they will have to attract reluctant jews to emigrate into Israel. They will have to prove them that they are the best.
During the war of 1948, and 1973 Israel was on verge to disapear, to save this state US was directly commited, chieftly in 1973 where US pilots participated in the air war, as in land war. US -as Israel- threatened to use nuclear weapons against Egypt and Syria. In the other hand, soviet participated directly too in the war. Some soviets troops were captured in the golan by israelis, as syrians and egyptians downed and killed several US pilots.
On of the biggest hoax in the history of these last 60 years occured in 1982, when Israel asserted that they downed about 100 syrian Migs vs 0 losses, however, the facts in the fields contradicted completly this stupid claims. Nevertheless, this claim was supported by most western medias who are in close jewish-zionist control. I grew up with this false claim, and untill recently I still believed it. However, many clues in the fields contradicts the israelis assertions. At first, when you say that you downed x..aircrafts, you will have to provide the proofs. For example wreckages. However, untill now, Israel provided wreckages of only a few Mig-23, far from the 80 they claimed to have downed. Without significant proofs, we are obliged to believe what Israelis said.
In this link
http://www.acig.info/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=207&Itemid=47
It explained a few disturbing facts that significantly contracdicted what the israelis bragged. For example, after the so-called victory when they were supposed to wiped out of map nearly 100 syrians Migs, and destroyed all the sam, hence having the total control of the lebanese sky , how could they explain these following facts ?
- syrian helicopters could destroy with a total impunity several dozen israelis tanks and armored vehicles.
- syrian fighter-bombers -SU-22 and Mig-23 BN- continued to bomb israelis infantery destroying several dozens, if not hundreds armored vehicles.
- several battles of tanks occured between israelis Merkava, M-60, M-48, against syrian T-55, T-62, T-72. It was even said the T-62 was very efficient. Efficient under a so-called total israelis control of lebanese sky ?
- Why did not the Israelis reach the Beyrut-Damascus highway ? As it was one of the main purpose of the war. The main purpose was to expell syrian army out of Lebanon too.

The syrian force in Lebanon was 30.000 troops, against nearly 80.000 israelis. 2 syrians division against 5 israelis divisions.

In fact Vladimir illyin -russian historian. The question is why should I believe a russian historian ? Well, why should I believe Tom Cooper ? Yefim Gordon ? Is a westerners necessarily more honnest and more intelligent than a russian, or non westerner ?- explained during this war of Lebanon -syrian announced a completed stupid figure too clamiming they downed more than 70 israelis aircrafts. This figure was contradicted by the facts in the field- Syria lost about 50, Israel about 45. Israel was slightly ahead allowing to expell Fatah out of Lebanon, but far to be enough to expell syrian army from Lebanon as it was programmed.
The war of Lebanon is symptomatic of usual western lie about the war. It was a mix between truth and large part of lie. Far to be outdated, outclassed -as I believed during longtime- the soviet hardware prove again it was very very effective and still redoutable.
We can do the same analysis about 1973 war, and we reached the same conclusion, the Mig-21 was largely better than the Phantom II, and the Mirage III. No use to tell more about 1967, it was surprise attack, as every surprise attack it is a complete successufull. It could have the exact same result if Mexico attacks every US airfields. Let's recall about Pearl Harboor, or Barbarbarossa against Soviet Union.

If you have other clues, and other analysis It would be interresting to share with me. Please do not hesitate.

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Re: Middle East air war: Israel - Egypt - Syria

starman Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:03 am

nemrod wrote:
During the war of 1948, and 1973 Israel was on verge to disapear,

I sympathize with the arabs but this is a wild exaggeration. In '73, Egyptian and Syrian forces advanced only about 10km or so. They couldn't even recapture their lost territory let alone eliminate Israel.

For example, after the so-called victory when they were supposed to wiped out of map nearly 100 syrians Migs, and destroyed all the sam, hence having the total control of the lebanese sky , how could they explain these following facts ?
- syrian helicopters could destroy with a total impunity several dozen israelis tanks and armored vehicles.

They flew below radar coverage before using pop up tactics.

- syrian fighter-bombers -SU-22 and Mig-23 BN- continued to bomb israelis infantery destroying several dozens, if not hundreds armored vehicles.
- several battles of tanks occured between israelis Merkava, M-60, M-48, against syrian T-55, T-62, T-72. It was even said the T-62 was very efficient. Efficient under a so-called total israelis control of lebanese sky ?

Pollack wrote, in Arabs at War the Israeli airforce was so busy knocking down MIGs it couldn't do much bombing or strafing of ground forces.

The syrian force in Lebanon was 30.000 troops, against nearly 80.000 israelis. 2 syrians division against 5 israelis divisions.

The defection of Egypt from the arab coalition against Israel cost Syria dearly.
By the way, if you're interested in alternate history scenarios, including one in which Egypt returned to the arab fold in the 1980s, and fought against Israel again, see this blog:

http://starvisions.blogspot.com/

This figure was contradicted by the facts in the field- Syria lost about 50, Israel about 45.

Says who?

We can do the same analysis about 1973 war, and we reached the same conclusion, the Mig-21 was largely better than the Phantom II, and the Mirage III.

Not according to the ARAB MIGs Volumes 5 and 6. Illustrations and figures clearly show how far ahead the F-4 and Mirage were.

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