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    Post  GarryB Sat May 30, 2015 11:24 am

    I think the greater irony is the more obvious... the CIA ran a terror campaign against Castro for years and never really stopped.

    It even included an attempted invasion, but assassination and terrorism, including economic terrorism like burning sugar cane fields and random cutting of power lines.

    In comparison the actual Cuban terrorism in the US was largely by the opposition to Castro...  Twisted Evil
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat May 30, 2015 12:21 pm

    I repat what I said some time ago - argumentum ad misericordiam is a major logical fallacy. Being hunted/persecuted does not prove moral superiority of the persecuted party. It does not prove inferiority either. In short - it proves nothing. Relative lack of Cuban terrorism in US mainland has nothing to do with some high morals of communist Cuban government - rather it has more to do with power disparity - Cuba is a small and dirty poor country and they know what the consequences will be if they decide to do something stupid.

    Well, US actions vis a vis the Cuban government have been negligible since the 1950s compared to what they could possibly do -destroying power lines, burning sugar cane fields or preparing a regiment-sized invasion force can hardly be qualified as genocidal excesses (seizing all of Cuba could easily be done with 2-3 USMC divisions)
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    Post  max steel Sat May 30, 2015 12:49 pm

    As long as russia exists usa can't seize cuba .
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat May 30, 2015 1:34 pm

    max steel wrote:As long as russia exists usa can't seize cuba  .
    It could easily seize Cuba in 1990s - Russia under Yeltsin surely would not risk anything just to save a small and dirty poor island some thousands km away from the nearest Russian border. Rolling Eyes Their alliance was dissolved when USSR collapsed and mutual relations only started increasing a few years ago.
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    Post  whir Sat May 30, 2015 2:36 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:4) Nobody in America celebrates these bombings. US society as a whole is ashamed of what their ancestors did.
    LOL, that's simply not true, the bombings are widely justified by US society as necessary to save lives.
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    Post  Werewolf Sat May 30, 2015 4:15 pm

    The US society is in a limbo of self-evident propaganda that they are "Protectors of the world" and they only Bomb to safe lifes...The US can start 10 wars at once the stupid american population would not have much of a problem with it except of such a small portion that would not even be noticed within the US. The US needs a decade long war with million dead on their own soil to change their mindset about war, because they never have seen war so they happily watch other countries getting bombed by US.

    Seriously in most other countries when you walk on streets and ask question "Which country next should we invade" most would look at you with an expression of being puzzled and shocked by such stupid question. In the US the only reaction is a List of countries those uneducated population somehow managed to remember besides USA.



    You can argue as much as you want that some exceptional are not mirroring the entire population but the issue here is that is not some or a minority it is unfortunatley the big majority that do not care about anything else but shouting Patriotic idiocracy slogans they have been indoctrinated since childhood (best countr yon the planet, Exceptionalism) while only getting educated about Reality TV Shows, without even understanding a single thing about politics, such scum are the first to shout WAR,WAR,WAR.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat May 30, 2015 4:21 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    max steel wrote:As long as russia exists usa can't seize cuba  .
    It could easily seize Cuba in 1990s - Russia under Yeltsin surely would not risk anything just to save a small and dirty poor island some thousands km away from the nearest Russian border. Rolling Eyes Their alliance was dissolved when USSR collapsed and mutual relations only started increasing a few years ago.

    Nonsense, Cuba is vital for Russia to keep America in check. Base S-500's, mobile Moscow ABM's, Murmansk-BN strategic ECM's, Iskander-M's, Blackjacks with X-102's, and eventually Zircon cruise missiles could be placed in Cuba if NATO decides to get froggy with their Euro-meatshield project, BTW the alliance wasn't dissolved...where did you hear that lie from?
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    Post  OminousSpudd Sun May 31, 2015 12:28 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    George1 wrote:US drops Cuba from list of terrorism sponsors

    The US is the biggest exporter of terrorism ever.

    1) Saudi Arabia is a US vassal state that exports Wahabbi terror.

    2) The US arms Wahabbi groups such as ISIS to enable the US to achieve its geopolitical goals, for
    example to undermine Iran and install US friendly regimes in Syria and Iraq (they actually failed in
    Iraq when the Iran aligned Shi'ite majority took over).   Iran is the main counterbalance to Saudi
    influence in the middle east and outside it (e.g. in Canada).

    3) The US installed the butcher regime in Kiev which is pursuing a war of terror against the people
    of the Donbas.

    4) The US dropped two nuclear bombs on civilians in Japan "to win WWII".  That was an act
    of pure terror.  They could have dropped the bombs on Japanese forces or other assets.  If
    the Japanese would not surrender or sue for peace, then they could have some excuse to
    ratchet up the attacks.   But directly targeting civilians is a war crime.
    Will this forum EVER understand that international politics is about interests and not about vassals, puppets etc.? Rolling Eyes

    1) Saudi Arabia is not a US "vassal". They're allied with US only because it suits their interests. Once they realize that alliance with America no longer suits their interest, they'll abandon this alliance in no time. And their treatment of Americans is far from perfect in spite of alliance - Americans in KSA clearly DON"T enjoy the same freedoms as Saudis in the United States.

    2)Expanding one's sphere of influence and fighting influence of other powers is what every major power did since the dawn of civilization. You don't like it? Great. Swallow it and move on.

    3)I don't disagree with that. But your accusations are like blaming dogs for barking

    4) Nobody in America celebrates these bombings. US society as a whole is ashamed of what their ancestors did.


    The United States of America is no more immoral than Russia, China, India, Iran or any major/regional power that exists today or in the recent past (USSR). It's simply the strongest player on the board so it's transgressions are more visible. Does it mean that other powers don't want to behave in the same way? Nope - it means they are too weak.


    So much A-grade BS in this statement. I agree that the Saudis aren't vassals, but due to them being run by a bunch of bratty princes makes them exceptionally easier to control, simply give them more candy if they get unruly. The entirety of the EU on the other hand is most certainly a collection of vassal states, as can be demonstrated today by their incredible willingness to be the fall-guy for the US e.g. economic sanctions against Russia, a country they almost solely rely on for their energy needs and agricultural imports, sanctions that hurt them far more than it hurts "their" target. Oh, did I mention the US gets off scot-free?
    All of the supposedly "big" players in Europe are locked into a military alliance with the US where their combined militaries make up less than quarter of the alliance's total power, the other three-quarters belonging to their gratuitous overlord Uncle Sam who, being the majority shareholder, gets to call the shots (quite literally), and there's crap-all any of the crushed idiots underneath can do about it. That is vassal behavior.



    Yes, but no. I don't know if you've noticed but we've been through two World Wars and nearly obliterated the human race off the face of the earth in a nuclear arms race since the Roman-esque era and rules you imply. Those rules should have changed, and they had a chance to at the end of World War II, but the West, particularly the United States, were so concerned that their new found power would be ripped out from under them by the Soviet warmachine that they never even gave peace in a new multipolar world a thought. Indeed Churchill thought that Russia hadn't suffered nearly enough, so put forward a plan to nuke the rest of them. Charming. That sort of thing breeds a wonderful atmosphere for long-term peace plans. Besides, the Nazis were just the US' bad dog that got off the leash, if only Hitler hadn't mobilized against Europe, but rather had attacked the Soviet Union first, things would have turned out so much better for the oh so exceptional nation across the sea.
    The state of paranoia was so strong that no one even stopped to consider that maybe, just maybe, the nation that had lost 20,000,000 of its own countrymen and women actually had zero interest in another war. Of course nuking Japan to scare Stalin shitless was the best idea 'murica could come up with. Again, such fantastic, insightful peace-planning.

    Which leads me on to the next point. I was in a store the other day and overheard a man talking to a yank about the nuking of Japan. The store owner was saying how his granddaughter had written a school essay on the greatest humanitarian act of our time. Do you know what she picked? The nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Do you think the two men were talking in disgust about her chosen topic? No, they stood there and praised it. So don't talk to me about how it's widely regarded as a blot in US history. I have only ever seen it actively praised or justified by the US citizens I have talked to, never the opposite.

    As for blaming dogs for barking, go read William Blum's list on US interventions since 1945 then come back and tell us we're blaming dogs for barking.

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    Post  GarryB Sun May 31, 2015 3:18 am

    I repat what I said some time ago - argumentum ad misericordiam is a major logical fallacy.

    And I am sure Goebbels would approve the idea that repeating a claim over and over often enough makes it true.. but that doesn't make it true either.

    Being hunted/persecuted does not prove moral superiority of the persecuted party. It does not prove inferiority either.

    No... all it proves is that the bullying party is misusing their power against a weak opponent... some countries might respect such nonsence, but the official morality of the US is actually against such behaviour, so the countries that will be impressed will be countries that are completely unlike the US in terms of morals and values like Saudi Arabia, so why do other countries condone US behaviour?

    Fear that they might bring the same sort of attention from the US if they don't fall into line... a coalition of the afraid...

    BTW Cuba maintains a moral superiority over the US because they are standing up to a bully that is rather more powerful than they are and they could never defeat on the battlefield, yet they still stand against them... that shows backbone... a rare thing these days.

    Relative lack of Cuban terrorism in US mainland has nothing to do with some high morals of communist Cuban government - rather it has more to do with power disparity - Cuba is a small and dirty poor country and they know what the consequences will be if they decide to do something stupid.

    Rubbish... Al quada was able to perpetrate terrorist acts on US soil... it is not that hard or expensive.... even a tiny nation like Fiji could do it if they wanted... hell with a truck and some diesel and fertiliser Timothy McVeitch was able to do it very easily.

    All through the cold war the Cubans had the Soviets backing them... they could have created a false organisation... say the Cuban intervention army... lets call them the CIA for short to attack infrastructure and civilian targets in the US with the mission to kill people until the US stopped attacking Cuba... what would the US do exactly?

    Well, US actions vis a vis the Cuban government have been negligible since the 1950s compared to what they could possibly do -destroying power lines, burning sugar cane fields or preparing a regiment-sized invasion force can hardly be qualified as genocidal excesses (seizing all of Cuba could easily be done with 2-3 USMC divisions)

    Indeed attacking infrastructure and over 200 attempts to murder Castro and an actual invasion attempt are negligible compared with the excesses we have seen from the US that ranges from regime change in a dozen countries or more and now an attempt at regime change at FIFA... but compared with the actions of Cuba against the US they are significant because the reciprocal actions have been nonexistent... yet they call Cuba a state that supports terrorism.

    Hypocrites... 

    It could easily seize Cuba in 1990s - Russia under Yeltsin surely would not risk anything just to save a small and dirty poor island some thousands km away from the nearest Russian border. Cuba in the Cross fire - Page 2 Icon_rolleyes Their alliance was dissolved when USSR collapsed and mutual relations only started increasing a few years ago.

    And how long would Vietnam part II last for the US exactly?

    When the local population hates you, you can't really stay very long... and the idea that all the Cuban exiles in Miami would suddenly take over and control Cuba is amusing for all those Cubans who stayed...

    LOL, that's simply not true, the bombings are widely justified by US society as necessary to save lives.

    I am afraid you are right... most westerners believe the Japanese started the Pacific War by attacking Pearl Harbour, but of course it really started several years before when the US and UK imposed sanctions on Japan because they thought they were growing too fast... remind anyone of anything?

    Like current sanctions on Russia... and likely future sanctions on China regarding rights over certain islands...  hmm that sounds like a sensible way to go...  Rolling Eyes
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    Post  collegeboy16 Sun May 31, 2015 5:25 am

    GarryB wrote:
    And how long would Vietnam part II last for the US exactly?

    When the local population hates you, you can't really stay very long... and the idea that all the Cuban exiles in Miami would suddenly take over and control Cuba is amusing for all those Cubans who stayed...
    am I the only one here imagining hordes of coked-up Tony Montanas as the guerilla force? Twisted Evil
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sun May 31, 2015 8:31 am

    Cubans don't hate Americans and America - and it can be easily seen by comparing numbers of Cubans that migrated to USA versus number of Americans that migrated to Cuba.

    By the way - America can take no more credit for it's expansionism than you do for the carbon dioxide you exhale - expansionism simply is THE way politics manifests itself - and you can't change it without invoking a magical demon that controls the minds of all people on earth, preventing them from ever again interfaring in each other's political affairs.
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    Post  OminousSpudd Sun May 31, 2015 11:19 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Cubans don't hate Americans and America - and it can be easily seen by comparing numbers of Cubans that migrated to USA versus number of Americans that migrated to Cuba.

    By the way - America can take no more credit for it's expansionism than you do for the carbon dioxide you exhale - expansionism simply is THE way politics manifests itself - and you can't change it without invoking a magical demon that controls the minds of all people on earth, preventing them from ever again interfaring in each other's political affairs.

    Of course expansion is natural, how you go about enacting your expansion is something else altogether. Take the EEU or BRICS for instance, organisations that attempt to help their member nations by exacting mutually beneficial trade agreements and developing healthy trade relationships. That is expansion in its own right, the difference being that both parties benefit from it.

    Land expansion (war essentially, where the stronger party takes from the weaker) is nothing but greed in most cases, certainly not a natural occurrence in a nation's development.

    Excusing US crimes against the world as being a natural "survival of the fittest" occurrence is where you're missing it here. In this age and "globalised" era there is no need for a modern day Rome.

    Has it ever struck you as odd that the King of Capitalism is scared to death of competition?
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    Post  GarryB Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:04 am

    Cubans don't hate Americans and America - and it can be easily seen by comparing numbers of Cubans that migrated to USA versus number of Americans that migrated to Cuba.

    I would say all Cubans hate all American governments past and present... half of the Cubans will hate the governments of the US because they think they have gone too far in punishing Cuba for something that was really nothing to do with the US in the first place... and I think that the other half of Cubans will hate the US government for not going far enough in saving Cuba from the Commies.

    At the end of the day the sanctions and bad behaviour has only hurt the average Cuban... the people they pretend they want to help.

    By the way - America can take no more credit for it's expansionism than you do for the carbon dioxide you exhale -

    Bullshit.

    Both Russia and China are growing in power... political, economic, and military and you don't see either country imposing sanctions except in response.

    The irony is that the US claims the moral high ground... something neither Russia nor China do... with the US the bullying comes with a sermon...
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    Post  George1 Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:42 am

    US, Cuba reopening embassies after more than 50 years

    WASHINGTON/HAVANA, July 20. /TASS/. The United States and Cuba will begin a new stage of relations on Monday by reopening their embassies in Washington and Havana. The states are restoring diplomatic relations and taking the last step to leave behind half a century of mutual hostility and mistrust.

    The American mission in the Cuban capital will be transformed into an embassy without any official ceremonies. The US Interests Section in Havana will be transferred into the category of an embassy without hoisting the national flag of the United States. According to an unnamed official of the US State Department, quoted by the Cuban media, there are no legal requirements for hoisting the flag for the official opening of a diplomatic mission. This important event will take place during US Secretary of State John Kerry’ visit to Havana to be held shortly, the official added. However, Kerry’s visit date has not been specified.

    Cuban Foreign Minister Bruno Rodriguez Parrilla will travel to the Cuban Embassy in Washington to raise his country's flag, an event that Cuban government officials said will be broadcast live on the island's state-run TV, CCN reported.
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    Post  George1 Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:32 pm

    US Diplomats in Cuba No Longer Need Travelling Permit
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    Post  Kyo Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:38 pm

    Russia to supply generators to Cuba https://www.rt.com/business/319081-cuba-russia-power-plant/
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    Post  George1 Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:13 am

    Castro to Obama: Relations Won't Be Normal Until Guantanamo Returned

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    As US President Barack Obama makes a historic visit to Cuba following a thaw in relations, Cuban President Raul Castro has stressed that complete normalization cannot be achieved until Guantanamo Bay is returned to Havana.

    Meeting with Obama in Havana, Castro stressed that the US must abandon its territory at Guantanamo and lift its embargo against Cuba.

    "Much more can be done if the embargo is lifted," he said. "We recognize the position President Obama is in, and the position his government holds against the blockade, and that they have called on Congress to lift it."

    The Cuban president added that there remain "profound differences that will not disappear over our political model, democracy, human rights, social justice, international relations, peace and stability," and stressed that the Cuban people will not "relinquish what they have gained through great sacrifice."

    Castro denied accusations that Cuba holds political prisoners, saying "give me a list of those political prisoners and if the list exists they will be released before the night is through."

    Speaking to reporters, President Obama said he could not offer an exact timeframe for the end of the embargo, but stressed that Washington does not view Havana as a threat.

    "What I have said to President Castro is that we are moving forward and not looking backwards, that we don't view Cuba as a threat to the United Statesm," he said. "The embargo's going to end. When? I can't be entirely sure. The fact that there has been strong support, not just inside of Congress, but also among the Cuban people, indicates that this is a process that should continue."

    "We're moving ahead with more opportunities for Americans to travel to Cuba and interact with the Cuba people," he added. "We are ready to pursue more commercial ties, which create jobs and opportunities for Cubans and Americans alike."

    Still, the US does have concerns.

    "People are still concerned about [human rights] inside of Cuba," Obama added. "We can't force change on any particular country, ultimately it has to come from within."

    While recognizing these concerns, Castro said that no country on Earth can meet all international human rights standards. He hopes that all countries can work together to meet those standards.

    According to a White House press release, the US and Cuba have already launched a joint effort to combat the Zika virus.

    "The United States and Cuba have committed to deepen scientific and public health cooperation, focusing on communicable diseases including arboviruses such as Zika, dengue and chikungunya [and]…on the prevention and treatment of Chronic…diseases such as cancer," the White House said in a fact sheet released on Monday.

    "In the coming months, the United States and Cuba intend to work toward finalizing arrangements to strengthen our collaboration in these and other scientific and health areas."

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/us/20160321/1036693498/castro-obama-guantanamo.html#ixzz43iBr0C1o
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:26 pm

    Cuba again followed the path of the USSR
    https://vz.ru/world/2019/10/11/1002390.print.html

    I guess they'll pay Russia with their oil & earnings from tourism.
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    Post  PhSt Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:32 am

    It seems the US activated its sleeper cell agents inside Cuba to foment this insurrection. It will be in the best interest of Russia, China and the rest of the world that resist American imperialism to thwart this latest attempt by the Americans to impose regime change in Cuba.



    ‘Freedom, food, vaccines!’ Mass protests in Cuba backed by US officials as president urges supporters to defy ‘foreign meddling’

    Large anti-government protests broke out in Cuba's major cities in a rare display of “pro-freedom” sentiment that was immediately cheered on by US officials and denounced as “foreign provocations” by President Miguel Diaz-Canel.

    Thousands of protesters marched on Sunday in Havana, Santiago de Cuba and other locales, decrying food, medicine and vaccine shortages, and demanding an end to the island nation's Communist rule. Numerous videos posted on social media showed crowds marching and chanting such slogans as “We are not afraid”, “Liberty” and “Cuba is not yours!”

    US Representative Nicole Malliotakis (R-New York) said it's encouraging to see the Cuban people demanding an end to their misery. “I hope and pray for a free Cuba for my relatives and all (who are) suffering under its unbearable Communist rule.”

    The Biden administration also expressed support for the protesters, although a State Department official portrayed the demonstrations as being entirely about the pandemic. “Peaceful protests are growing in Cuba as the Cuban people exercise their right to peaceful assembly to express concern about rising Covid cases, deaths and medicine shortages,” said Julie Chung, acting assistant secretary for the department's Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs.

    Such swift reactions from abroad add credibility to President Diaz-Canel's claims that foreign forces might have spurred and amplified the demonstrations, while sincere protesters were being manipulated by US social media campaigns.

    “We are calling on all the revolutionaries in the country, all the Communists, to hit the streets wherever there is an effort to produce these provocations,” he said in a broadcast to the nation.

    As crowds of pro-government counter-protesters took to the streets, he added on Twitter, “The revolution is defended by the revolutionaries. And among the revolutionaries, the Communists are going to the front – never as an elite, but as a conscious and committed force.”

    Amid reports of clashes and arrests, after Cuban authorities mobilized security forces to contain the unrest, US Senator Marco Rubio (R-Florida) pleaded with President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Anthony Blinken to urgently “call on Cuban military forces to not fire on their own people.”

    The protests sprung up just days after Cuba approved for emergency use its homemade Abdala coronavirus vaccine, which it eventually hopes to export to other countries such as Argentina, Mexico, Vietnam and Even Iran. The unrest also comes on the heels of last week's assassination of President Jovenel Moise in neighboring Haiti, allegedly by a hit squad made up of 26 Colombians and two Haitian-Americans.

    Diaz-Canel succeeded Raul Castro as president in 2018 and as Communist Party chief earlier this year. Shortly after taking on the latter role in April, he reportedly told party leaders, “Our sworn enemies go about thinking up the most perverse plans to attack the revolution, create distrust and break up unity. The Cuban revolution won't be betrayed or given over to those who toy with the fate of the homeland.”

    https://www.rt.com/news/528952-cuba-protests-foreign-meddling/

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    Post  kvs Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:41 am

    There will always be hordes of useful idiots who can serve as regime change cannon fodder. This is why street protests have no legitimacy
    as a substitute for elections. The US itself treats the Capitol Hill protestors as insurrectionists and then pretends that every mob is some
    proxy for the whole population when it serves its regime change interests.

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:49 am

    A few thousand showed up. Not much really. That said, the government of Cuba doesnt take such shit lightly.
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    Post  Kiko Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:09 am

    Cuban Leader Calls on Supporters to Hit Streets, Oppose Provocations, 12.07.2021.

    As citizens took to the streets on Sunday to demand improvement of economic conditions in the country amid the COVID-19 outbreak, it is worth noting Cuba has been under a US embargo for almost 60 years, which has prevented the arrival of humanitarian aid in the island nation during the pandemic.

    Cuban President Miguel Diaz-Canel called for his supporters to take to the streets on Sunday after accusing enemies of the Cuban Revolution of trying to destabilize the Caribbean nation.

    "We will not let anti-revolutionary mercenaries who are beholden to the American empire to create instability. There will be a revolutionary response," he said in a televised address to the nation.

    "We are calling on all Communists to take to the streets where these provocations are being staged and oppose them," he said, referring to protests that are reportedly taking place in several cities.

    Citizens took to the streets across the country on Sunday to oppose poor economic conditions and the government's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic. The nation has faced shortages of food and essential products as its health industry is going through difficult times.

    Under the so-called Cuban Democracy Act of 1992, foreign-based subsidiaries of US companies are prohibited from selling their products to Cuba. Cuban Permanent Representative to the United Nations Pedro Luis Pedroso Cuesta told Sputnik earlier that under the so-called Cuban Democracy Act of 1992, foreign-based subsidiaries of US companies are prohibited from selling their products to Cuba.

    According to local media reports, protests and crowds have been reported in eight cities on the island, including Havana, and no major incidents have been reported.

    Meanwhile, US politicians took to Twitter to support the mass protests in the island nation, calling on the American government to support Cubans against the "communist dictatorship".

    The United States imposed trade restrictions on Cuba in the late 1950s in response to the communist revolution. Ex-US President Barack Obama made small steps towards normalizing relations with its neighbor, but the Trump administration reversed many of those.

    US President Joe Biden has vowed to continue Obama's policies, but no significant steps have been made in that direction so far. Given the overall support of the ongoing unrest and decades-long rejection of any possibility for a socialist government in its backyard, it is highly unlikely the current administration will try to normalize relations.

    The Russian Foreign Ministry condemned the US policies of violating human rights abroad earlier this week, which is epitomized in the harsh economic sanctions against states Washington deems "not free", with the most "egregious example" being the imposed and ongoing (despite numerous UN General Assembly resolutions) blockade of Cuba.

    On June 23, the United States voted against a UN General Assembly resolution condemning the embargo on Cuba that was adopted by the overwhelming majority of 184 other nations.

    by Asya Geydarova, for Sputniknews.

    https://sputniknews.com/latam/202107111083362551-cuban-president-calls-on-supporters-to-hit-streets-oppose-provocations/
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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:12 am

    Since Russia's food program is going so well and they are overproducing now of everything from pork to grains, why not start a massive donation program to Cuba along with China?

    Great way to gain browny points.

    But I figure Russians are more interested in money than good will.
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    Post  Kiko Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:42 am

    The expert pointed to the "smart" US participation in the protests in Cuba, 12.07.2021.

    “The United States undoubtedly supports such speeches. But they do it in a smart way - during the protests there were no calls to overthrow the government, ”Nikolai Kalashnikov, an expert on Latin America, told VZGLYAD newspaper, commenting on the first protests in Cuba in many years.

    “On the one hand, I would not exaggerate the scale of these protests. At the same time, an avalanche sometimes starts with one snowball. In any case, this is a signal to the country's leadership that it is necessary to take measures to eliminate public discontent, ”said Nikolai Kalashnikov, advisor to the director of the Institute of Latin America of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

    According to the expert, "in general, life in Cuba is now quite difficult - both due to the pandemic and due to the fact that the United States under Joe Biden did not change the nature of the relationship that was established by the previous head of the White House, Donald Trump." “Let me remind you that he introduced all possible sanctions against Cuba, which greatly complicated the country's economic life,” Kalashnikov said.

    “As a result, due to the pandemic and US sanctions, Cuba has lost several hundred thousand tourists. It was tourism that became the main industry that helped develop the country's economy. All this has led to the discontent of the population, and they are taking to the streets, ”the source added.

    “The Cuban authorities believe that the protests on the island are taking place at the suggestion of the United States. Washington undoubtedly supports such statements. But he does it smartly. The videos from the protests that I saw contained chants, slogans, but there was not a single pre-prepared poster, and there were no calls to overthrow the government. It is difficult to predict how these performances will end, ”concluded Kalashnikov.

    Let us remind you that the first mass protests in many years began in Cuba. The demonstrators are demanding "free elections" and a solution to social problems. Cuban President Miguel Diaz-Canel declared his readiness to fight and die for the revolution: “We are ready to give our lives. They need to step over our corpses if they want to face the revolution. We are ready for anything and will fight in the streets".

    The protests took place in the city of San Antonio de los Baños and other settlements in Cuba. They began on July 11, the day Cuba saw a record number of new cases of coronavirus infection. Reuters and AFP estimate the number of protesters at several thousand. Among the slogans chanted by the protesters - "Freedom", "Down with communism", as well as calls to provide medicines, vaccines and end hunger, writes "Kommersant".

    Jake Sullivan , Adviser to the President of the United States for National Security, said that the Cuban authorities should not use violence against protesters. He noted that "the United States supports freedom of expression and assembly in Cuba." Sullivan stressed that the United States authorities "will strongly condemn any violence or action against peaceful protesters." According to him, the protesters "defend their universal right."

    Text: Natalia Makarova

    https://m.vz.ru/news/2021/7/12/1108452.html
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    Post  Kiko Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:06 pm

    Miami Mayor Calls to Send Troops to 'Protect' Cubans From a 'Bloodbath’ as Protests Sweep The Island, 12.07.2021.

    Thousands of citizens of Cuba, which has been under a US embargo for almost 60 years, preventing the arrival of humanitarian aid to the island nation during the pandemic, took to the streets on Sunday in protests driven by food shortages, high prices, COVID-19 restrictions and a lethargic vaccination rollout.

    "Cubans are worthy and ready to rule themselves without tyranny. It can end today and it must end today. The implications of this moment can mean freedom for millions of people in the hemisphere, from Nicaraguans and Venezuelans and so many more," the mayor said at a news conference.

    Suarez attended a demonstration in the Little Havana section of Miami, where hundreds had gathered outside the Cuban Versailles restaurant.

    As images have surfaced showing thousands of Cubans flooding the streets in protest against poor economic conditions and the government's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, Miami Mayor Francis Suarez called for international intervention led by the United States "to protect the Cuban people from a bloodbath."

    The Cuban regime’s military police are shooting at unarmed Cuban protestors fighting for freedom. 60 years of communism, cruelty, & oppression cannot last any longer! We are imploring the USA to take action as we peacefully demonstrate on the streets of Miami #PATRIAYVIDA 🇨🇺 pic.twitter.com/oXy24RjwZW

    — Mayor Francis Suarez (@FrancisSuarez) July 11, 2021

    I have never felt such raw emotion from the people of Miami desperate for intervention by the government and by themselves on behalf of Cuba. This is the moment for freedom in Cuba. IT CANNOT WAIT ANY LONGER! pic.twitter.com/gM1SjOZ222

    — Mayor Francis Suarez (@FrancisSuarez) July 12, 2021

    Three US Representatives - Congressman Mario Diaz-Balart (FL-25), Carlos A. Gimenez (FL-26), and Congresswoman Maria Elvira Salazar (FL-27) - released a joint statement in solidarity with the protests in Cuba.

    “Now more than ever, the United States and the international community must support the Cuban people in their struggle for freedom," they wrote in their statement.

    Amid a resurgence of coronavirus cases associated with the arrival of the Delta variant of the virus, with health authorities reporting a record 6,923 cases and 47 deaths on Sunday, the island republic is suffering from the crippling fallout from US sanctions imposed by the administration of former president Donald Trump.

    People have also been brought out into the streets over a worrying lack of food, medicine and other basic products.

    Crowds in the streets of #Cuba chanting "freedom" #SOSCuba pic.twitter.com/kJDDVuEITP

    — Newsistaan (@newsistaan) July 11, 2021

    ​Thousands of Cubans, from Havana to Santiago, turned out for the Sunday protests, with the images going viral on social media.

    We have NEVER seen a day like today in #Cuba

    62 years of misery, repression & lies boiling over into organic, grassroots protests in over 32 cities #SOSCuba #PatriaYVida pic.twitter.com/U5L5Zzb5mg

    — Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) July 12, 2021

    A spate of broadcasts on social media showed hundreds of people marching through the streets of San Antonio de los Baños, Guira de Melena and Alquízar, all in the province of Artemisa, near Havana.

    Diaz Canel addressed the island on Sunday in a televised speech to denounce what he called a “smear campaign” unleashed by the US, while urging Cubans to remain calm.

    "We will not let anti-revolutionary mercenaries who are beholden to the American empire to create instability. There will be a revolutionary response," he said in a televised address to the nation.

    Referring to protests reportedly taking place in several cities, he added:

    “We are calling on all Communists to take to the streets where these provocations are being staged and oppose them."

    The United States imposed trade restrictions on Cuba in the late 1950s in response to the communist revolution. Ex-US President Barack Obama took some minor steps towards normalizing relations with its neighbor, however the arrival of the Trump administration reversed many of those.

    After President Joe Biden, who vowed to continue Obama's policies, entered the White House, the Cuban Foreign Ministry had high hopes for restoring relations between the two countries, abruptly cut off under the Donald Trump administration.

    The latter had returned Cuba to the US list of state-supporters of terrorism.

    However, Biden administration's review of the US policy toward Cuba has not progressed over the past five months, ostensibly because of its current low priority for the White House, The Washington Post reported in June, citing anonymous sources.

    On June 23, the United States voted against a UN General Assembly resolution condemning the embargo on Cuba that was adopted by the overwhelming majority of 184 other nations. Top Cuban diplomat, Minister of Foreign Affairs Bruno Rodriguez, underscored that political and ideological differences were not an "impediment to a respectful and civilized relationship" with neighbours. Rodriguez slammed the White House for making empty promises and seeing no progress.

    by Svetlana Ekimenko, for Sputniknews.

    https://sputniknews.com/world/202107121083365722-miami-mayor-calls-to-send-troops-to-protect-cubans-from-a-bloodbath-as-protests-sweep-the-island/























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