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@ GarryB

"....If that is the case then I agree with you....." Ok . If news about Isfahan protests are true by foreign media , and obviously there was no opportunity or evidence for violence or destruction of property by protesters , gathering in a dry river bed , protesting shortage of water ( or even chanting : down with the Islamic Republic ! ) tear gas was fired and reportedly 19 individuals suffered sight loss , because the Iranian " security " services shot them in the eye with shot gun pellets , then it is truly the case !

People have the right to gather . They have the right to chant demands . They have the right to demand change in political system . They have the right to form political parties . They have the right to vote in a new democratic constitution . The present usurpers and dictators have no right to shoot them . They have no right to violently suppress political opposition . They have no right to ban political parties . They have no right to limit people's power by any religious justification . .......

https://en.mehrnews.com/news/181272/US-confirms-its-readiness-to-lift-all-sanctions-Ulyanov


Of course it is predictable what the Americans will do . Promise to lift all  sanctions , in public  . So the Clerics and co can lie to the public and sell the ongoing positive negotiations ! While in secret they will promise to lift a few sanctions , so the negotiators will sign on the dotted line . And in reality they will lift one or two sanctions to allow the sellout administration , their prodigy , to throw a few crumbs to the public to avert a Revolution ! And then once Iran gives up 250 kg of 20% and 60% and then pour concrete again and put spy here or there and blow this up and blow that up and assassinate  when Trump comes back in ! Hell , they may even allow a few exports into USA to sweeten the medicine for the Clerics Bazzari friends  !The cost to disarm Iran ? Zero . Since they recuperate by trade in short term . Then they will attack at the right time ! When the bread crumbs they threw to the public is finished , and there is no Cake to eat either , and civil war is in full swing ! And the American smart Bombs are killing innocent civilians unsmartly ! While brave Iranian commanders proclaim  Iran's involnurability ! And attribute the explosions to a mass hallucinations or a passing thunder cloud ! Attack them , while they at war with each other ! Like Afghanistan Or Iraq Or Libya Or Syria  ! Raisi and Rouhani are two sides of the same coin ! Ready to short change Iran defence and economy , to keep their unpopular minority in power , a little bit longer !

Iran has missiles to hit accross the middle east and destroy saudi oil production that can affamect the western world, in the same time China will keep buying iranian oil.

Moreover Iran isn't the failed Lybian state. It's very old country with very smart people that can do nasty stuff like bio weapons in desperate counter attack or targeted assassinations during hight tensions.

IMO any country attacking them will think twice. They are very well aware Iran is very capable.

The west uses drones all the time over African countries and Pakistan and murder people most days.

Their own figures show they kill about 5,000 people a year with drone strikes so probably very few days go by when they are not murdering someone... but it doesn't happen much over Iran.

And of course it is not because they don't want to...

People have the right to gather . They have the right to chant demands . They have the right to demand change in political system . They have the right to form political parties . They have the right to vote in a new democratic constitution . The present usurpers and dictators have no right to shoot them . They have no right to violently suppress political opposition . They have no right to ban political parties . They have no right to limit people's power by any religious justification . .......

Agree, but they don't have the right to dictate to government by riot. They don't have the right to injure police or damage cars and property, they don't have the right to start fires and burn car tires and block the streets and prevent other people going about their daily business.

They can demand anything they please as long as it is lawful, but they should not expect actual change just because they went out and protested... no government works that way.

You can't run a country by a show of hands.

And if you want an example of fucked up governments look at the British government.... the people voted to leave the EU but the woman in charge during the transition was against leaving the EU and look how that turned out... but then how can anyone expect her to implement a policy she was against?

And then they got Boris.

Like Chris Farleys older dumber brother... at least Chris could use a comb... and wasn't an idiot.

GarryB wrote :


".....Agree, but they don't have the right to dictate to government by riot. They don't have the right to injure police or damage cars and property, they don't have the right to start fires and burn car tires and block the streets and prevent other people going about their daily business......"  Sounds good to me ! Better allow them a place , where they sit down and form a political party .


https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2021/12/01/2618054/exclusive-europeans-urge-prompt-end-to-jcpoa-talks


Great ! Thank you Europe . Now send back Iran team empty handed . Let them go and do some useful work , like build a Nuke deterrent ! A democratic government and self-sufficient economy !

I heard that Israelis do not want negotiations to go ahead ! And Iran reacted by affirming that it will carry on with the negotiations . Israelis playing reverse psychology and Iranians falling for it !

https://en.mehrnews.com/news/181339/Iran-reacts-to-Israeli-calls-for-cessation-of-Vienna-talks



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BOQQPt2LoNY


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8s8X0yHoAXc


LOL !

https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2021/12/11/2623788/westerners-mood-changing-by-hour-source-in-vienna-jcpoa-talks-says


And they expect guarantees from such fickle people ? They expect that sanctions will not be reimposed ? That Iran will not be attacked and drawn into a war , it can not win ? The present power structure and minority administration is inherently incapable of restoring Iran's defence or economy or politics ! There is only one outcome possible under these circumstances !

https://en.mehrnews.com/news/181956/12-000-Iranians-sacrificed-in-fight-against-drug-trafficking


Iranians can buy these from Afghans . And manufacture medicine from them and sell to the world . Or help Afghans manufacture and sell as medicines .

https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/52816/Teachers+at+the+forefront+of+Irans+new+class+struggle


There has been a miracle in Iran ! No , I am not talking about the protests as such , but unknown to most , apart from the keen observer , the protests occurred in three distinct phases . First the workers protested . Then the Farmers protested . Then the teachers protested ! These are distinct economic classes , forming the basis for formation of political parties . And this is what must be done next . Instead of street protests , political parties with their own membership and political programme . No more short term economic demands with protests on the street . But political power to the majority of the people ! A new constitution !

Notice the Bazzari thieves did not protest ! I wonder why ? I guess they and their allies clergy will loose power in a new democratic republic ! I have said for some time that a democratic republic with proportional representation is what Iran needs . I wonder who the people have been listening to ? It is time that the Iranian right wing Bazzari gang lost political power to the democrats and socialists !

A joke for you : what has Islam and capitalism have in common ?  There is no joke about the profit ! .........what has Islam and socialism have in common ?  There is no profit-erring  in Islam . Once the people are organised proportionately in parliament , then they decide their own fate ! Not the Ayatollah or expediency council or security council or interior ministry or intelligence ministry or aunty Shahla.........long live :


( 1 ) The party of Iranian workers .

( 2 ) The party of Iranian teachers and allied office workers .

( 3 ) The party of Iranian Farmers .

( 4 ) The party of Iranian traders .

As mentioned before .....

nomadski wrote:https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/52816/Teachers+at+the+forefront+of+Irans+new+class+struggle


There has been a miracle in Iran ! No , I am not talking about the protests as such , but unknown to most , apart from the keen observer , the protests occurred in three distinct phases . First the workers protested . Then the Farmers protested . Then the teachers protested ! These are distinct economic classes , forming the basis for formation of political parties . And this is what must be done next . Instead of street protests , political parties with their own membership and political programme . No more short term economic demands with protests on the street . But political power to the majority of the people ! A new constitution !

Notice the Bazzari thieves did not protest ! I wonder why ? I guess they and their allies clergy will loose power in a new democratic republic ! I have said for some time that a democratic republic with proportional representation is what Iran needs . I wonder who the people have been listening to ? It is time that the Iranian right wing Bazzari gang lost political power to the democrats and socialists !

A joke for you : what has Islam and capitalism have in common ?  There is no joke about the profit ! .........what has Islam and socialism have in common ?  There is no profit-erring  in Islam . Once the people are organised proportionately in parliament , then they decide their own fate ! Not the Ayatollah or expediency council or security council or interior ministry or intelligence ministry or aunty Shahla.........long live :


( 1 ) The party of Iranian workers .

( 2 ) The party of Iranian teachers and allied office workers .

( 3 ) The party of Iranian Farmers .

( 4 ) The party of Iranian traders .

As mentioned before .....

At some point, Mahmud Ahmadineeschād will be president again when he is not killed before. He is still very popular and his Iranian way was the right way for Iran. The elites do not like him and the religious not.

The political developments in Iran are positive . They are moving beyond personality politics and into party politics , in the best way possible . The anti-democratic elements are weak . A new constitution is needed , to ensure a democratic system based on proportional representation is put in place . The seats in parliament therefore belong 40% to the workers etc . The post of President should be abolished and replaced by prime minister . Other organs such as expediency council and guardian council and security council , adopt advisory bodies to parliament only . The position of supreme leader is kept mostly in advisory capacity with ability to introduce bills into parliament say once a year . Same with other high scientific bodies from universities . Political parties are free to form . Without many or any restrictions . However the new constitution should guarantee only that economic classes are proportionately represented . Making no restriction on political belief or inclinations .

Edit : If government is short of funds to build public housing , because of sanctions and can not increase budget by taxation and needs 4000,000 units to be built , then solution is :


( 1 ) Forget about high rise residential apartment complexes in towns . Where there are no jobs or industrial growth . Other countries experience of these building complexes is mostly negative . A lot of crime and unemployment leading to a sick environment . These will be abandoned , and will have to be pulled down in twenty years time .


( 2 ) Land to be provided , either public land or private land on cheap lease by the government . The couple's who are married but without a home , can then provide the Labour for building their own homes on this lands . Using traditional methods and cheap materials available locally , like mud bricks or stone bricks . With modern scientific help .

( 3 ) Agricultural activity or light industrial activity to provide self employment . For those with less than self-sufficient income , then subsidy to be provided .

Expansion of the agricultural sector and moving people out from overcrowded cities , together with land redistribution and self -sufficient communities is the long term solution . Better that they partly feed themselves , than not at all , sitting in a high rise flat in a city without a job , in over crowded conditions !

https://www.downtoearth.org.in/indepth/mud-housing-is-the-key-30237

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TaKqPqBtXIM

Desalination plants can provide enough water for modern efficient agriculture , to produce crops and animal protein . A 1000,000 cubic meter output desalination plant produces enough water for producing 200 grammes of Chicken meat per day / per person , for 1000,000 people . Four desalination plants will provide enough water to produce enough protein for four million people .

https://waterfootprint.org/en/water-footprint/product-water-footprint/water-footprint-crop-and-animal-products/

For draught grow different crops .

https://www.infobloom.com/what-are-the-different-types-of-drought-resistant-crops.htm


Use 50% less water for agriculture .

https://www.agrifarming.in/drip-irrigation-system-complete-guide

https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2022/01/irans-president-makes-first-visit-russia

Iranian president Raisi made his first visit to Russia, where he met with president Putin.

Praying in the Kremlin.

Good to see developments in relations for both nations . Many advantages for both . From geopolitical routes for trade with Europe and Russia for Iran . And access to world trade , via land and sea route of warm waters of Persian Gulf for Russia . To protect these trade routes , then a joint security force , comprising of investor nations such as Russia and Iran and China and others , along the lines of CSTO , could be set up to protect such routes . These would need land and sea and airports , where military escorts for ships and trains and Road convoys , could be supplied and housed . Also a common need to set up and use alternative to swift for SCO nations that trade in local non-Dollar currency , and China may follow Russia and dump Dollar securities in USA . Alternative internet could also prove useful . As well as standardisation of industrial and military equipment , Rail and Road etc .

@ JohninMK

"....Could work well if the quantities balanced?.." Different arrangements can be worked out . A large quantity can be exchanged for smaller one , repaid over longer term . This visit by Iranian president , important step by power brokers in Iran , discarding their " communist " phobic ideas . More pragmatic !


@ Alamo

"...Maybe they can get back to discussing a canal Caspia-Oman .... " A fast rail link more practical , with port facility either end . Security for rail link , could be jointly provided by nations using it from central Asia , land locked nations , neighbouring Caspian sea . I love the Caspian sea . I swam it , as a child . Ate the Sturgeon kebab !

discarding their " communist " phobic ideas . More pragmatic !

If it is a problem to date then it is not so much communist phobia, as Russophobia... Russia has not been communist for a number of decades... 3 in fact.

BTW it is very good of the west and the US in particular to be pushing Iran and Russia together... I think both countries will benefit from this arrangement and can grow the economies in each country...

Funny how the west can't be happy unless everyone else is unhappy... not very attractive in terms of friendship potential...

What came out at the meeting now? What was signed?

I suspected, as long as Russia in Syria does not go against all threats, nothing happens.

Iran is a very conscious state. They do not trust Russia. Russia has no prove that it is trustworthy.

Iran has had a lot of victims in Syria. Has fought the IS in Iraq and Syria directly on the ground. What Russia could not have afforded the scope. Russia has to acknowledge the recognition and Iranian troops from Israel save protect in Syria.

@ GarryB

"...If it is a problem to date then it is not so much communist phobia, as Russophobia... Russia has not been communist for a number of decades... 3 in fact.... " I tend to think it is communist phobia ! Since government people talk about this aspect that they mostly remember . I think partly to do with internal politics within Iran . This being much more intense than some other countries . They also remember the anti-religious drive during Communist era . But most Iranians have a positive outlook .

@ Mig31

".....They do not trust Russia. Russia has no prove that it is trustworthy...... " Does any country's  leadership  trust any other ? Nobody can predict the shifting sands of the political landscape . My advice to all leaders is that ;  They should trust only as far as if this trust was misplaced , that it would not significantly and adversely affect the fate of their nation . Iranians are talking about not putting all their eggs in one basket . Or having a multipronged foreign policy .

No MIG, no su ... nothing bought. Also no S-400.
What was exactly agreed?

Are you sure about no planes or AD units ? They said publicly about expansion of nuclear power plants built by Russia . Says a lot about their defence policy .....................