The Situation in the Ukraine. #11

ahmedfire wrote:I can't understand why doesn't Russia decrease oil and gas expotations to EU to counter sanctions ?

What about stopping to give US space engines and put big military bases in latino countries as a respond to sanctions and US ABM in EU ?

ExBeobachter1987 wrote:

ahmedfire wrote:I can't understand why doesn't Russia decrease oil and gas expotations to EU to counter sanctions ?

What about stopping to give US space engines and put big military bases in latino countries as a respond to sanctions and US ABM in EU ?

For what purpose? Russia needs the money from export business, but not any large bases outside the former Soviet Union.

ahmedfire wrote:

ExBeobachter1987 wrote:

ahmedfire wrote:I can't understand why doesn't Russia decrease oil and gas expotations to EU to counter sanctions ?

What about stopping to give US space engines and put big military bases in latino countries as a respond to sanctions and US ABM in EU ?

For what purpose? Russia needs the money from export business, but not any large bases outside the former Soviet Union.

Why ?

...linking to mp.net is forbidden?

5] Do not advertise other forums (that includes linking to them)

I say we send in tank companies with support of a mechanized companies and steam roll the front all the to Kiev and then America will see if Russian tanks were really there or not

Yeah, don't understand how linking someone's tweet==advertising a discussion forum.

I can't understand why doesn't Russia decrease oil and gas expotations to EU to counter sanctions ?

What about stopping to give US space engines and put big military bases in latino countries as a respond to sanctions and US ABM in EU ?

GarryB wrote:
It doesn't... the problem is your sig.

How about changing it by removing the URL?

Hisroyalhighness wrote:

GarryB wrote:
It doesn't... the problem is your sig.

Very well.

How about changing it by removing the URL?

Deleted the signature.

#Ukraine's army trapped in #Debaltseve appeals to #OSCE to come & rescue their wounded, remove dead.
https://twitter.com/ArmedResearch/status/567075686998114304

GarryB wrote:Russia doesn't need big foreign bases just now... in 10-20 years when the navy has been rebuilt and the Air Force is fully ready it can look to securing bases all over the place to project reach and influence

so Russia doesn't need to convoy in and hold things down one-handed, they need to just support their allies who will not be weak themselves.

Last night and today, for the first time in a long time, the situation in Donetsk Republic remained relatively calm.

Units of DPR, in accordance with the Minsk agreements, completely halted military operations along the entire contact line at 00:00 o'clock Kiev time.

At the same time during the night and in the morning mortar and gun fire by separate groups of Ukrainian security forces was observed.

In some cases our soldiers had to return targeted fire to stop these provocations.

In accordance with the order of head of DPR, all DPR units are holding fire and not responding to small provocations of Ukrainian troops.

Despite the regime of silence, the situation near Debaltsevo remains tense. Ceasefire on this front did not begin right away. Blocked Ukrainian troops do not cease attempts to come out from encirclement.

Firing of various intensity of our positions, first of all in Logvinovo, continued until the morning from the city and from Luganskoye.

Around 3 am a large armored group of Ukrainian troops, which pulled last night to the Eastern outskirts of Debaltsevo, tried to enter Chernukhino under the cover of the night, but returned to initial position after encountering our fire.

During yesterdays fighting our recon groups acquired 4 Grad installations and a large amount of ammo near Debaltsevo.

All [artillery] installations and ammo were moved from the city overnight.

Overnight on Donetsk front Ukrainian troops fired 4 times from mortars on Donetsk, 6 times - on Donetsk outskirts, 18 times - on Donetsk airport, as well as on other localities.

On Mariupol front militia units held localized defensive battles, halting attempts of Azov regiment to attack Shirokhino and Kominternovo.  As a result of exchange of fire the enemy returned to the initial positions.

We are calling on Kiev to closely follow the agreement to halt fire. On our part, we confirm our strict adherence to the agreement on the entire territory of DPR.

At this time the engineering corps of DPR army are demining infrastructure and residential sector, emptied by the enemy earlier, in order to prevent the killing of civilians, who are returning to their homes. This is not only about unexploded Ukrainian ammunition, which is abundant in great numbers across our settlements, but also - infrastructure objects, mined on purpose, such as substations, boilers, small enterprises and roads.

At this time they carry a clear danger to restoring peaceful life and to lives of our civilians.

Therefore in the nearest time, the main efforts of our troops, which are not participating in blocking the enemy, will be focused there.

Donetsk residents, who had lost their housing as a result of shelling are given temporary housing in Donetsk and other settlements of the Republic.


Losses of Ukrainian security forces, as a result of clashes, over the last 24 hours are: 9 tanks, 12 BMP and BTR, 16 artillery systems, 7 vehicles, 111 people killed. This data includes enemy losses prior to the ceasefire, as well as data obtained by our intelligence from radio interception in Debaltsevo.


Total since resuming of military operations 29 days ago, the enemy lost: 3 airplanes, 1 helicopter, 205 tanks, 182 BMP, BTR, MTLB, 208 field artillery guns, 124 vehicles, 2760 people killed, and 60 POW


DPR losses over the last 24 hours, as a result of clashes:  1 BMP, 6 vehicles, 8 people killed, 28 wounded.


We would also like to report that we learned that the Ukrainian side is preparing provocations towards DPR. A large number of journalists, who are controlled by Kiev authorities, were spotted in some settlements. We think they want to record something that we didn't do. We know they are planning to do this, and we will be prepared.

ahmedfire wrote:I can't understand why doesn't Russia decrease oil and gas expotations to EU to counter sanctions ?

What about stopping to give US space engines and put big military bases in latino countries as a respond to sanctions and US ABM in EU ?

GarryB wrote:
However it is a good wake up call so that when things eventually go back to normal Russia not only will be rather more self sufficient, but will also have developed a wider range of trade partners that don't mix economics with politics.

Regular wrote:Azov is still fighting and pushing Shirokino

The Ukrainian government downgraded the fall of GDP in 2015 to 5.5% against 4.3% in December pledged to the budget, said Finance Minister Natalia Yaresko Monday, introducing amendments to the budget.

Viktor wrote:Another 5.5% drop in 2015 .... not counting Donbas and Lugansk obviously

Big_Gazza wrote:

Viktor wrote:Another 5.5% drop in 2015 .... not counting Donbas and Lugansk obviously

The reality is that its probably far higher but the numbers are being fudged to prevent panic by creditors...

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Big_Gazza wrote:

Viktor wrote:Another 5.5% drop in 2015 .... not counting Donbas and Lugansk obviously

The reality is that its probably far higher but the numbers are being fudged to prevent panic by creditors...

The whole league of Western credit agency's are a massive joke, according to them the Ukrainian economy is doing better than the Russian economy.

Hisroyalhighness wrote:Zakharchenko speaking the truth.