The Situation in the Ukraine. #11

Hisroyalhighness wrote:

par far wrote:
A power struggle was going to happen if the Neocon Zionists did not get what they wanted, the media in Ukraine is controlled mostly(after the coup) by Zionists and they push their own agenda. This kind of reminds me of the Al-Maliki situation in Iraq, Al-Maliki was supposed to be the Zionist puppet in Iraq but it did not work that because Al-Maliki became close to Iran and shortly after Al-Maliki was replaced by someone else. This could be the case in Ukraine as well, they will try the same thing.

The Zionists are already undermining the Minsk agreement, I don' think this Poroshenko doing this(ould be wrong).

http://rt.com/news/233579-poroshenko-peacekeepers-ukraine-eu/

Zionists? Are you kidding me? Lay of the conspiracy nonsense.

#Russia's Emergency Situations Ministry sends 2 planes to Rostov-on-Don with humanitarian aid for #DNR/#LNR. wrote:




http://www.interfax.ru/world/425349

https://twitter.com/ArmedResearch/status/568457546933112832

It's not a conspiracy nonsense, Victoria Nuland who stated that "five billion dollars were spend in Ukraine" for the chaos and who also said that "f the EU" is jew and Zionist supporter, so how is that a conspiracy nonsense?

Novorussian army capture quite a lot from Ukrainian army. With some repairs, they got around 80 tanks, around 100 armored vehicles (BMPs, BTRs and MTLBs), arpund 50 howitzers 122mm and 152 mm and 15 Grad MLRS. They also capture a lot of ammunition and other equipment like digital communications, night vision equipment, thermal imagers, etc

It's not a conspiracy nonsense, Victoria Nuland who stated that "five billion dollars were spend in Ukraine" for the chaos and who also said that "f the EU" is jew and Zionist supporter, so how is that a conspiracy nonsense?

Don't bother with such people, we have other people around here that still deny that Nazis in Ukraine are in government and that this has no connections to US overthrowing the government, close minded people which hear Lalilulelo when you say Zionists, they are already conditioned to think about conspiracy "theory" while it is a fact.

A power struggle was going to happen if the Neocon Zionists did not get what they wanted, the media in Ukraine is controlled mostly(after the coup) by Zionists and they push their own agenda. This kind of reminds me of the Al-Maliki situation in Iraq, Al-Maliki was supposed to be the Zionist puppet in Iraq but it did not work that because Al-Maliki became close to Iran and shortly after Al-Maliki was replaced by someone else. This could be the case in Ukraine as well, they will try the same thing.

The Zionists are already undermining the Minsk agreement, I don' think this Poroshenko doing this(ould be wrong).

http://rt.com/news/233579-poroshenko-peacekeepers-ukraine-eu/

Al-Maliki a "zionist"?! You and your ilk really need your heads checked. You are obsessed with "zionist" conspiracies everywhere (not to mention you want to instigate an extermination against this or that ethnicity/group that does not fit with your idea of master race or whatever disgusting backward ignorant crap you believe in), but you low awareness of the world around you precludes you to understand that corruption, thirst for power, greed, ignorance and religious fanatism knows no boundary or ethnicity. Oh the israeli government and many that live there and many from their diaspora are a really cringeworthy lot, not terribly more advanced that ISIS in their view of the world, but to blame them and only them for all the evil in the world is rubbish. Corruption, thirst for power, greed and backward fanatism of every political and religious colour is found everywhere, from Israel to US, Middle East, Europe, Ukraine or RUSSIA. If you think the traitorous scum in Kiev serving the US and their neo-fascist organizations are and can only be all "zionists", you are terribly ignorant. But since you are of the last lot i mentioned anyway, ("backward fanatism of every political and religious colour") no wonder.

In fact the US oligarchic imperialist interests are far more dangerous to the world than these "zionists" you talk about alone, they are only a part of that problem, not the whole problem. You do not get rid of this problem by exterminating the jews or whatever other group you hate in your ignorance, but by eliminating these oligarchic imperialist interests and the traitors serving them, no matter what colour and race they are, through a WORLD REVOLUTION. Eliminate the 1%, eliminate ignorance and educate people, not exterminate. If you want to exterminate anyone, i will say yet again, better start with yourselves, you are just as bad as you claim ALL the jews, or other group you do not like, to be.

mack8 wrote:

A power struggle was going to happen if the Neocon Zionists did not get what they wanted, the media in Ukraine is controlled mostly(after the coup) by Zionists and they push their own agenda. This kind of reminds me of the Al-Maliki situation in Iraq, Al-Maliki was supposed to be the Zionist puppet in Iraq but it did not work that because Al-Maliki became close to Iran and shortly after Al-Maliki was replaced by someone else. This could be the case in Ukraine as well, they will try the same thing.

The Zionists are already undermining the Minsk agreement, I don' think this Poroshenko doing this(ould be wrong).

http://rt.com/news/233579-poroshenko-peacekeepers-ukraine-eu/

Al-Maliki a "zionist"?! You and your ilk really need your heads checked. You are obsessed with "zionist" conspiracies everywhere (not to mention you want to instigate an extermination against this or that ethnicity/group that does not fit with your idea of master race or whatever disgusting backward ignorant crap you believe in), but you low awareness of the world around you precludes you to understand that corruption, thirst for power, greed, ignorance and religious fanatism knows no boundary or ethnicity. Oh the israeli government and many that live there and many from their diaspora are a really cringeworthy lot, not terribly more advanced that ISIS in their view of the world, but to blame them and only them for all the evil in the world is rubbish. Corruption, thirst for power, greed and backward fanatism of every political and religious colour is found everywhere, from Israel to US, Middle East, Europe, Ukraine or RUSSIA. If you think the traitorous scum in Kiev serving the US and their neo-fascist organizations are and can only be all "zionists", you are terribly ignorant. But since you are of the last lot i mentioned anyway, ("backward fanatism of every political and religious colour") no wonder.

In fact the US oligarchic imperialist interests are far more dangerous to the world than these "zionists" you talk about alone, they are only a part of that problem, not the whole problem. You do not get rid of this problem by exterminating the jews or whatever other group you hate in your ignorance, but by eliminating these oligarchic imperialist interests and the traitors serving them, no matter what colour and race they are, through a WORLD REVOLUTION. Eliminate the 1%, eliminate ignorance and educate people, not exterminate. If you want to exterminate anyone, i will say yet again, better start with yourselves, you are just as bad as you claim ALL the jews, or other group you do not like, to be.

Nice try, JIDF.

Didn't the rebels capture massive amounts of equipment and weapons at debaltsevo and the other encirclements? Then why are people claiming that novorossiya is experiencing difficulties in forming new brigades? Did they suddenly lose the will to fight and the population isn't interested to defend their homes?

Due to the 2  facts stated above IMO the trouble of finding enough war resources is utter panicky bullshit. I'm completely sure that by late 2015 the novorossiyans will have an equal amount or more combat ready brigades as the UAF on the frontline.

2SPOOKY4U wrote:

mack8 wrote:

A power struggle was going to happen if the Neocon Zionists did not get what they wanted, the media in Ukraine is controlled mostly(after the coup) by Zionists and they push their own agenda. This kind of reminds me of the Al-Maliki situation in Iraq, Al-Maliki was supposed to be the Zionist puppet in Iraq but it did not work that because Al-Maliki became close to Iran and shortly after Al-Maliki was replaced by someone else. This could be the case in Ukraine as well, they will try the same thing.

The Zionists are already undermining the Minsk agreement, I don' think this Poroshenko doing this(ould be wrong).

http://rt.com/news/233579-poroshenko-peacekeepers-ukraine-eu/

Al-Maliki a "zionist"?! You and your ilk really need your heads checked. You are obsessed with "zionist" conspiracies everywhere (not to mention you want to instigate an extermination against this or that ethnicity/group that does not fit with your idea of master race or whatever disgusting backward ignorant crap you believe in), but you low awareness of the world around you precludes you to understand that corruption, thirst for power, greed, ignorance and religious fanatism knows no boundary or ethnicity. Oh the israeli government and many that live there and many from their diaspora are a really cringeworthy lot, not terribly more advanced that ISIS in their view of the world, but to blame them and only them for all the evil in the world is rubbish. Corruption, thirst for power, greed and backward fanatism of every political and religious colour is found everywhere, from Israel to US, Middle East, Europe, Ukraine or RUSSIA. If you think the traitorous scum in Kiev serving the US and their neo-fascist organizations are and can only be all "zionists", you are terribly ignorant. But since you are of the last lot i mentioned anyway, ("backward fanatism of every political and religious colour") no wonder.

In fact the US oligarchic imperialist interests are far more dangerous to the world than these "zionists" you talk about alone, they are only a part of that problem, not the whole problem. You do not get rid of this problem by exterminating the jews or whatever other group you hate in your ignorance, but by eliminating these oligarchic imperialist interests and the traitors serving them, no matter what colour and race they are, through a WORLD REVOLUTION. Eliminate the 1%, eliminate ignorance and educate people, not exterminate. If you want to exterminate anyone, i will say yet again, better start with yourselves, you are just as bad as you claim ALL the jews, or other group you do not like, to be.

Nice try, JIDF.

As someone who himself has no love for jewish religion, culture or israeli policies, even I feel astounded by the amount of ignorant claims, worthless illogical rants and repetitive downright hate-filled diatribes posted by certain right wing and monarchist members .

By this type of conversation I feel like I'm in victorian europe with social darwinism, manifest destiny, and racialism galore.

No matter how many evil people it has calling for discrimination and extermination of an entire ethnic group is idiotic.

Let me make a claim of myself analogical to yours about the jews : The germanic race is the cruelest, exploitative and most devious of all peoples and has caused the largest suffering in the history of mankind.

What's bombed palestinians and a few stolen shekels to the northern crusades, extermination of the native americans, the nazi genocide or the enslavement of hundreds of millions of africans?

See? It isn't nice. Now proceed to call me anti-white, hasbara, evil commie or whatever your nazi crap filled brains can cook up.

Congrats to nazis

The decline in industrial production in Ukraine has exceeded 21%

How nice. Ukrops left 265 armored vehicles in the cauldron, including 28 tanks.

A whole mechanized brigade + tank batallion for free.

mack8 wrote:

A power struggle was going to happen if the Neocon Zionists did not get what they wanted, the media in Ukraine is controlled mostly(after the coup) by Zionists and they push their own agenda. This kind of reminds me of the Al-Maliki situation in Iraq, Al-Maliki was supposed to be the Zionist puppet in Iraq but it did not work that because Al-Maliki became close to Iran and shortly after Al-Maliki was replaced by someone else. This could be the case in Ukraine as well, they will try the same thing.

The Zionists are already undermining the Minsk agreement, I don' think this Poroshenko doing this(ould be wrong).

http://rt.com/news/233579-poroshenko-peacekeepers-ukraine-eu/

Al-Maliki a "zionist"?! You and your ilk really need your heads checked. You are obsessed with "zionist" conspiracies everywhere (not to mention you want to instigate an extermination against this or that ethnicity/group that does not fit with your idea of master race or whatever disgusting backward ignorant crap you believe in), but you low awareness of the world around you precludes you to understand that corruption, thirst for power, greed, ignorance and religious fanatism knows no boundary or ethnicity. Oh the israeli government and many that live there and many from their diaspora are a really cringeworthy lot, not terribly more advanced that ISIS in their view of the world, but to blame them and only them for all the evil in the world is rubbish. Corruption, thirst for power, greed and backward fanatism of every political and religious colour is found everywhere, from Israel to US, Middle East, Europe, Ukraine or RUSSIA. If you think the traitorous scum in Kiev serving the US and their neo-fascist organizations are and can only be all "zionists", you are terribly ignorant. But since you are of the last lot i mentioned anyway, ("backward fanatism of every political and religious colour") no wonder.

In fact the US oligarchic imperialist interests are far more dangerous to the world than these "zionists" you talk about alone, they are only a part of that problem, not the whole problem. You do not get rid of this problem by exterminating the jews or whatever other group you hate in your ignorance, but by eliminating these oligarchic imperialist interests and the traitors serving them, no matter what colour and race they are, through a WORLD REVOLUTION. Eliminate the 1%, eliminate ignorance and educate people, not exterminate. If you want to exterminate anyone, i will say yet again, better start with yourselves, you are just as bad as you claim ALL the jews, or other group you do not like, to be.

I did not sat Al-Maliki was a Zionist, I said he was to serve as the puppet of the Zionists and the US but it did work that work that because Al-Maliki become very close to Iran(which is the truth). When you talk about Zionists, why are you saying they are all jews are Zionist because there are lots of jews that don't like Zionism and reject Zionist ideology. Judaism and Zionism are too different things my friend, there are a lot of jews in Israel who would rather face jail time rather than serve in the Israeli army because they against killing innocent people and I admire that. When Adolf Hitler was killing innocent jews it was the Zionist Rothschilds family and Paul Warburg(jews by the way) who were financing Hitler. When you talk about US oligarchic imperialists, you are in fact talking about the Zionists because they are the majority elite, they control US foreign policies, the Zionist Rothschilds family own 50% of the US federal reserve, it is mostly Zionists that run Hollywood(can you see all of that from all the anti Muslim propaganda that is shown). If you don't believe me then you research for your self.

I don't have any master race ambitions or anything but when someone say's the word Zionist, people automatically assume you are referring to all jews, when in fact you are referring to only a select fews. People that are responsible for the Ukraine crisis are mostly Zionist(they call themselves jews when in fact they are zionsts, it's like a wolf in sheeps costume) David Cohen(director of CIA and former US Treasury officer) and Jacob Lew(head of the US Treasury) are primarily responsible for the sanctions on Russia, Victoria Nudelman(saying that "US spent $5 billion on Ukraine coup" and said the "fuck the EU"), George Soros(responsible for the attack against the Rouble and had a hand in Georgian war with Russia). I am only mentioning a few names here, there are lots more, these are all Zionists, if we don't call them Zionists, then what do we call them?

Time to update the ignore list.

Destroyed positions of the UAF 128th mountain-infantry brigade near Debaltsevo

In order for there to be peace on this earth, all Jews/Zionists must be killed. In order for there to be peace on this earth, all things related to Jewry/Zionism must be destroyed.

_ _ _par far

Did you or did you not said THIS Par Far? Your attempt at back-pedaling (oh but i did not said to kill all jews, only the zionists, i really love the "other" jews etc. etc.) cannot hide what you said yourself. Anyway, you are a creepy and uncurable  fanatic of sorts  (islamist, christian or whatever else) so yeah i guess one wastes one's time trying to reason with you, and also is decidedly off-topic.

Lothar von Trotha wrote:How nice.  Ukrops left 265 armored vehicles in the cauldron, including 28 tanks.

A whole mechanized brigade + tank batallion for free.

About 80 tanks actually was the last numbers.. some need minor repairs..


Interesting report.. it looks more and more like a major rift between Germany and US.
Check what the Germany press is reporting..

http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/02/german-newspaper-bild-gets-inside-us.html


On other report.. US-supplied armored Humvees captured by Novorossia militia apparently
many captured..    Where is F-15E troll now hiding ,he love to post anytime "evidence"
shows Russia is helping the rebels. ?  

The vehicle was one of the many seized from the UAF at Debaltsevo and its vicinity. It seems to be in perfectly good working order. I suppose the most surprising thing about it is that the UAF had no time to put it up for sale, as it did the British-supplied Saxon APCs...

http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/02/us-supplied-armored-humvee-captured-by.html

video here..
http://my.mail.ru/community/interfront/video/_groupvideo/3517.html

Be ready.. Novorosiya will soon be selling on EBAY the US army trucks..free profits..

265 AFVs? How many of them are actually fieldworthy?

Hisroyalhighness wrote:265 AFVs? How many of them are actually fieldworthy?

Probably not many, however a little known fact is that Donetsk and Luhansk housed a major part of Ukrainians military equipment storage and repair facilities along with defense industry plants. As an example the only ammo plant in Ukraine is in Luhansk and Ukraine is starting to run out of bullets... the rebels not so much Apparently they have more equipment then they have trained operators, hence the need to recruit Russians with the technical expertise.

There are way too many crackpots on this site

Hannibal, As Saiqa, Werewolf, Par Far, Vann7

My god

Some of them make interesting contributions to various topics mind you, it's just the crackpot territory you have to watch out with them.

franco wrote:
Probably not many, however a little known fact is that Donetsk and Luhansk housed a major part of Ukrainians military equipment storage and repair facilities along with defense industry plants. As an example the only ammo plant in Ukraine is in Luhansk and Ukraine is starting to run out of bullets... the rebels not so much Apparently they have more equipment then they have trained operators, hence the need to recruit Russians with the technical expertise.

So the rumors about the NAF creating two new tank battalions is not a pipedream after all.

Hey guys, you know that one over-emotional butthurt basket case on Twitter named conflict reporter who checks for Russian soldiers underneath his bed? Apparently he's been crying on twitter for the past couple days:

To those saying, Russia's hunger for more Ukrainian land will be satisfied after the fall of Debaltseve: YOU HAVE NO CLUE!

https://twitter.com/Conflict_Report/status/567955940038856705

And apparently thinks Ukraine has no people with Asian features:

Thank you Graham for exposing more #FarEast Russian invaders! wrote:

https://twitter.com/Conflict_Report/status/568152944748716034

But what can you expect from someone who whitewashes Azov Battalion members.

Hey guys what's that at 4:30

They said that it was a satellite uplink or datalink.

2SPOOKY4U wrote:They said that it was a satellite uplink or datalink.

Thank you, it would be also great if somebody could recognize the type and its origin.

Strizh wrote:Hey guys what's that at 4:30

Satellite com system.

Strizh wrote:
Thank you, it would be also great if somebody could recognize the type and its origin.

From the US according to the Militia due to the English.

Makes sense given the fact that the US and other English speaking nations are giving military aid(mostly nonlethal) to Kiev.

#NAF has seized 28 tanks, 63 APCs & IFVs, 145 cars, 16 anti-aircraft, 13 artillery & mortars, 1,000 small arms & 39 warehouses w/ ammunition

https://twitter.com/pollbuster/status/568538714067988480

#NAF has seized 28 tanks, 63 APCs & IFVs, 145 cars, 16 anti-aircraft, 13 artillery & mortars, 1,000 small arms & 39 warehouses w/ ammunition

Awesome, simply awesome.

Hope they arm Kiev with the latest and most sophisticated equipment, so that it can be captured and sent to Moscow at the earliest convenience.
Thanks Washington.

US special forces sniper captured in Devaltsevo.. where is F-15E  ?    

http://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/166901-ucrania-coche-blindado-humvee

another video of the humvee they also captured.    



According to the separatist he did not expected the speed at which they took devalsevo
and had no time to escape.. he was sent to the minister of national security and im sure we will
know of him soon.  

In other report i saw.. it was told by Donetsk that even thought they control all devaltsevo city ,that there are about 1,000 soldiers who refuse to surrender In devaltsevo that flee the city but still inside the cauldron and that they will sooner or later will need food and surrender. . and the NAF forces believe they are all foreign mercenaries who just like the american sniper ,could not retreat in time.  

This is probably the reason why Poroshenko is asking for an European Police.. peace force to help evacuate the NATO
soldiers trapped in devalsevo..  

about the trophies conflicting reports.. this one shows much higher.
for NAF forces..

We are receiving the first reports concerning the approximate numbers of equipment captured in the Debaltsevo cauldron.

1. Armored vehicles. By first estimates, Novorossia captured over 80 tanks in repairable condition. Some of them were fully operational, even loaded with ammunition. Some have been abandoned without fuel, others were abandoned after their tracks were damaged, most of the vehicles captured have light or medium damage. This is sufficient for at least two tank battalions.

According to the official Kiev GenStaff announcement, as many as 15 tanks managed to leave the cauldron…out of at least 5 battalion tactical groups which were originally in the cauldron and 4 additional ones that were sent in to help.

Over 100 BMPs and BTRs have been captured in repairable condition. The junta managed to take out only about 50.

2. Artillery. Not fewer than fifty 122mm and 152mm weapons   (not counting 120mm mortars), many of which are repairable, and about 15 BM-21 122mm Grad launchers. At least 500 tons of artillery ammunition.

3.  A huge amount of small arms, including heavy machine guns, RPGs, RPOs [flame rocket launchers used for assaulting fortified positions and buildings]. Storehouses of food and medicine. Other goods.

4. Novorossia commanders are especially grateful to the numerous volunteer organizations which have equipped the junta’s forces so well: the hundreds of night vision devices, digital radio stations, thermal imagers, modern ballistic computers and fire direction gear, wound treatment and anti-shock kits of Western origin, Kevlar helmets (even though Russian ones are better, there aren’t enough of them), modern body armor, will be of great use.

According to the author of the report.. this is the list of things that could be used/repaired.. there is much more weapons ,tanks that Kiev lost and that was destroyed in the fighting and can NOT be repaired and totally destroyed.

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/novorossia-acquires-treasure-trove-of.html

The Kiev regime and its NATO patrons pushed for the ceasefire in the hopes of killing the rebel advance.
That failed, so they now want to introduce UN peacekeepers to kill any future rebel chance of reclaiming
all of the Donbas. Putin better not submit to this nonsense. I am glad Churkin is calling the call for
UN peacekeepers a violation of the Minsk-2 agreements. Maybe this indicates that Russia will not allow
the same obscenity as in Kosovo, where the Serbs and other non-Albanians (e.g. Gorans, Roma and Jews)
were ethnically cleansed after KFOR took over.