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max steel wrote:higurashihougi wrote:Being a Vietnamese... I don't like that demand.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/11/us-usa-vietnam-russia-exclusive-idUSKBN0M71NA20150311
Exclusive: U.S. asks Vietnam to stop helping Russian bomber flights
Vietnam Military Blasts US for Interfering With Russian Refueling Flights
Viets gave their response .
http://sputniknews.com/asia/20150312/1019411679.html
Russia’s Investigative Committee has launched a criminal case against Robert Scales, a retired US major general and a Fox News military analyst, who said in a live broadcast that the only way for the US to turn the tide in Ukraine is to start killing Russians.
higurashihougi wrote:
GarryB wrote:Funny, because I think the best way to solve the problems in the Ukraine is for Russia to send FSB teams into the ukraine to kill all the western diplomats that are funding the loonies and stirring them up into actions they would not normally have the guts to try to do.
GarryB wrote:Funny, because I think the best way to solve the problems in the Ukraine is for Russia to send FSB teams into the ukraine to kill all the western diplomats that are funding the loonies and stirring them up into actions they would not normally have the guts to try to do.
Lothar von Trotha wrote:You just got a neg rep from me for that.
After all, we aspire for a higher moral ground than our enemies. Dropping a nuclear bomb on Lviv would makes us even worse than our enemies. In fact, worse than the worst war criminals in history.
I don't believe in collective responsibility. Let us not punish millions of people for the insanity of a few morons. The guilty must be punished, the innocent can't. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
Lothar von Trotha wrote:Then figure out how to do that - and how to make it actually feel the effects of that punishment.
Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan did not shake the US status much. For that, we need something that really discredits US in the eyes of everyone, including it's allies - what is that?
Lothar von Trotha wrote:You just got a neg rep from me for that.
After all, we aspire for a higher moral ground than our enemies. Dropping a nuclear bomb on Lviv would makes us even worse than our enemies. In fact, worse than the worst war criminals in history.
I don't believe in collective responsibility. Let us not punish millions of people for the insanity of a few morons. The guilty must be punished, the innocent can't. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
Lothar von Trotha wrote:It is pretty meaningless how many nationalists/nazis there are among them. Just reclaim what terrain there is to be reclaimed in Central and Eastern Ukraine and leave Galiician idiots on their own. Or even better - let the Poles do the business of dragging them out of their hellhole - something they once tried in 17th century and a second time around ww2.
These 5 mln Galicians with negligible economic power really aren't much of a threat.
kvs wrote:Any Kiev regime move on Crimea will lead to an actual Russian military response. Unlike the fictional one that Kiev and its masters
in NATO are bitching about on a daily basis, this response will be something they are totally unprepared for. Real shock and awe
that will be over in 24 hours with regime remnants running for their lives back to the western part of Ukraine. I hope Russia
organizes a joint Donbas rebel response to complete the rout.
Russia on Friday rejected U.S. concerns about its use of a former American base in Vietnam for the refueling of Russian bomber flights around U.S. territory in the Pacific, dismissing recent U.S. statements as "puzzling" and "strange".
Reuters reported on Wednesday that the United States had asked Vietnam to stop letting Russia use Vietnam's Cam Ranh Bay for tanker aircraft that have refueled nuclear-capable bombers engaged in shows of strength over the Asia-Pacific region.
“It is strange to hear such statements from representatives of the state whose armed forces are permanently stationed in a number of Asia-Pacific countries and which continues to increase its level of military activity in the region," Russia's Defense Ministry said.
It said U.S. statements that the refueling of Russian bombers from Vietnam could lead to increased regional tensions was "puzzling."
The ministry said Russian Air Force activities and cooperation with Vietnam were "carried out in strict accordance with international norms and bilateral agreements are not directed against anyone whatsoever and shall not be a threat to peace and stability in the Asia-Pacific region.”
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On Friday, Russia's Tass news agency quoted Russia's ambassador to Vietnam, Konstantin Vnukov, as saying that Vietnam and Russia were independent sovereign states that "do not need any instructions or recommendations by anyone, and we do not intend to listen to requirements.”
"What is the difference between Ukraine's and Russia's positions? Ukraine is trustworthy
sepheronx wrote:kvs wrote:Any Kiev regime move on Crimea will lead to an actual Russian military response. Unlike the fictional one that Kiev and its masters
in NATO are bitching about on a daily basis, this response will be something they are totally unprepared for. Real shock and awe
that will be over in 24 hours with regime remnants running for their lives back to the western part of Ukraine. I hope Russia
organizes a joint Donbas rebel response to complete the rout.
I think Ukraine knows this, they are just doing what they are doing just to show their own people they are doing something when in reality, they know they will be liquefied very quickly. Su-34's alone would probably devastate Ukraines military capabilities.
higurashihougi wrote:As far as I know this is vehicle in Kyiv factory.
And it is built based on the Suckson APC
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