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galicije83 wrote:I lost 8 members of 9 of my family who participated in that war, all of them was in partisans and famous The first Vojvodina Proletarian National Liberation Brigade. Just one of brothers survive that war and that was my great-grandfather. For me its a big honor to see Serbian army on that big holiday event.
Many of you do not know that the Serbs were the majority of soldiers in partisan army (more then 90% in that army were Serbs).
1944, when it was clear who would win the war, Croats crossing the partisans was increasing, especially after Tito's promise to grant amnesty to all kvinsling formation in September 1944, if the join the partisans. Then in partisan units on Croatian territory was almost 2 times more Croats than Serbs, despite this Serbs were still the majority in partisan units. In Bosnia, however, the Serbs were a majority in partisan units with more than 95% until the end of war.
So, the Serbs put forward the People's Liberation War and gave the biggest victims of the Second World War, unlike other nations in Yugoslavia, which at the end they join to the winning side, and before that they were on the side of Nazi Germany.
And because of that its not big, but its Great Honor to see Serbian soldiers side by side on red square with soldiers from former USSR.
macedonian wrote:Well (obviously) I have my opinion on that, but I think it'd be wiser if we didn't get into all that here...
It'll only end up bad...
Besides it's about this years V-Day parade...I'd hate it if we screwed up such a good thread.
partizan wrote:
To put it mildly, pretjera ga brate... Except the part concerning your familiy, and I pay my deepest respect to them if I may say, the rest of your post is pure BS. But, lets not go there, here, on this thread. this topic is for heroes, not for a non-existent history...
galicije83 wrote:partizan wrote:
To put it mildly, pretjera ga brate... Except the part concerning your familiy, and I pay my deepest respect to them if I may say, the rest of your post is pure BS. But, lets not go there, here, on this thread. this topic is for heroes, not for a non-existent history...
Нису то срања, само многи не могу да се сложе са истином о томе ко је изнео други светски рат на територији југе. А то су били Срби.
This is not bullshits, partizan, that is a friking truth, Serb was majority in partizans and late in Yugo army. But many of u do not want accepted that is right truth...
Xinhua wrote:MOSCOW - Russia is busy preparing for the Victory Day celebrations on May 9, as this year marks the 70th anniversary of the victory of the Great Patriotic War, Russia's term for World War II (WWII).
Against a background that relations between Moscow and the West hit the lowest point since the end of the Cold War due to the Ukraine crisis, analysts believe that Russia expects to make a decisive response to the precarious pressure from the Western countries with a series of high-profile celebrations across the country.
FLEXING MILITARY MUSCLE
Larger scale celebrations are usually held on the occasion of quinquennial and decennial anniversary of the victory of the Great Patriotic War in Russia.
Thus, Moscow, which is now confronted with economic sanctions, diplomatic isolation and military threat from the United States and Europe, has seen enough reasons for holding grand celebrations this year.
Among the celebrations, the most eye-catching one would be the large-scale military parade on the Red Square in downtown Moscow, which will be the biggest ever held in modern Russia.
According to Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, over 15,000 soldiers will take part in the parade, a 50-percent increase from the one in 2010.
As to the mechanized section, which will involve 194 units of armaments and military equipment, Russian Presidential Administration Chief Sergei Ivanov said that there will be on display for the first time state-of-the-art, brand new weapons systems like, for example, the intercontinental ballistic missile called Yars.
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galicije83 wrote:partizan wrote:
To put it mildly, pretjera ga brate... Except the part concerning your familiy, and I pay my deepest respect to them if I may say, the rest of your post is pure BS. But, lets not go there, here, on this thread. this topic is for heroes, not for a non-existent history...
Нису то срања, само многи не могу да се сложе са истином о томе ко је изнео други светски рат на територији југе. А то су били Срби.
This is not bullshits, partizan, that is a friking truth, Serb was majority in partizans and late in Yugo army. But many of u do not want accepted that is right truth...
macedonian wrote:Reasons behind Russia's high-profile V-Day celebrations
(Xinhua)Xinhua wrote:MOSCOW - Russia is busy preparing for the Victory Day celebrations on May 9, as this year marks the 70th anniversary of the victory of the Great Patriotic War, Russia's term for World War II (WWII).
Against a background that relations between Moscow and the West hit the lowest point since the end of the Cold War due to the Ukraine crisis, analysts believe that Russia expects to make a decisive response to the precarious pressure from the Western countries with a series of high-profile celebrations across the country.
FLEXING MILITARY MUSCLE
Larger scale celebrations are usually held on the occasion of quinquennial and decennial anniversary of the victory of the Great Patriotic War in Russia.
Thus, Moscow, which is now confronted with economic sanctions, diplomatic isolation and military threat from the United States and Europe, has seen enough reasons for holding grand celebrations this year.
Among the celebrations, the most eye-catching one would be the large-scale military parade on the Red Square in downtown Moscow, which will be the biggest ever held in modern Russia.
According to Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, over 15,000 soldiers will take part in the parade, a 50-percent increase from the one in 2010.
As to the mechanized section, which will involve 194 units of armaments and military equipment, Russian Presidential Administration Chief Sergei Ivanov said that there will be on display for the first time state-of-the-art, brand new weapons systems like, for example, the intercontinental ballistic missile called Yars.
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I expected a far better toned article from the Chinese vis-a-vis V-Day to be honest.
KoTeMoRe wrote:
There is one full page of direct jabs at the "West" with those historical revisionist hints that piss the normal Chinese, as they find themselves always cast aside when victimization during WW2 and Japanese occupation is swept under the rug, because the current chinese power isn't to the West's taste.
So I found Xinhua pretty sly in this case and very refined in its attacks to the West. Off course there are also some political brown points vis à vis Russia, but that's to be expected. China doesn't "take sides" until it has to.
Old Folk Saying wrote:A bear that dances in your neighbor’s house might soon dance in yours.
macedonian wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:
There is one full page of direct jabs at the "West" with those historical revisionist hints that piss the normal Chinese, as they find themselves always cast aside when victimization during WW2 and Japanese occupation is swept under the rug, because the current chinese power isn't to the West's taste.
So I found Xinhua pretty sly in this case and very refined in its attacks to the West. Off course there are also some political brown points vis à vis Russia, but that's to be expected. China doesn't "take sides" until it has to.
Agreed.
But I think they do have to take sides (and soon). This attack on Russia is an overture to the attack on China.
I'll leave it to the strategist in Beijing to decide, but you know that old saying:Old Folk Saying wrote:A bear that dances in your neighbor’s house might soon dance in yours.
ds wrote:President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has reportedly declined the Kremlin's invitation to take part in Russia's Victory Day, or 9 May, celebrations in Moscow, marking the 70th anniversary of the capitulation of Nazi Germany to the Soviet Union in 1945.
Instead, Turkey's Moscow Ambassador Ümit Yardım will represent the country during the Victory Day, which is dubbed Russia's "biggest holiday" by Vladimir Putin, according to various sources.
The upcoming Victory Day Parade will take place in Red Square in Moscow on 9 May 2015, in which about 16,000 soldiers, 200 armoured vehicles and 150 planes and helicopters are expected to take part. This year's parade will be one of the biggest and largest to be held in Russian history, say media sources.
But, western politicians will stay away from the celebrations on Red Square, protesting Russia's actions in Ukraine. President Erdoğan will also be on the not-attending list following Putin's referring to the compulsory relocation of Ottoman Armenians in 1915 from Anatolia as "genocide" during the commemoration ceremony in the Armenian capital Yerevan last month.
The Russian President, having declined Turkey's invitation to join Gallipoli commemoration on April 24 to remember the fallen of World War, attended commemoration events in the Armenian capital for the 1915 incidents. The Russian official Sergey Yevgenyevich Naryshkin, who is also the Chairman of the State of Duma, instead represented Russia during the Gallipoli commemoration in Turkey.
PapaDragon wrote:Lots of awesome photos on this link from helicopter part of rehearsals takes from on-board.
http://fotografersha.livejournal.com/664566.html
I will only post one because I am not familiar with copyright rules on livejournal. (someone should invite author to join this forum)
Werewolf wrote:Interesting picture.
They drive like that with life ammunition through cities?
x2sepheronx wrote:Meh, at this point, no need to keep improving the AK-74M unless they opt out of AK-12. Either or, select one and get it over with.
sepheronx wrote:Meh, at this point, no need to keep improving the AK-74M unless they opt out of AK-12. Either or, select one and get it over with.
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