You do realize that Iran hates kurds even more as turkey does and when you support the kurds you make iran your enemy?
That is strange because we hear of Turkish forces crossing borders to kill Kurds but we don't hear much about Iran doing the same... you would think the US and the west would have long ago exploited that weakness in Iran to get the Kurds to rise up and challenge the leadership of that country... yet they do not seem to have done that.
Beside that we welcome a kurd uprising it gives us the possibility to clean out.
Yeah... that always works... I mean look at how successful Hitler was in dealing with the Jews in europe...
Putin already addressed the Turks that Russia is not looking for a fight with the Turkish people, only their current government.
The problem is that the Turkish people including the chap who is here at the moment are not so likely to listen to Putin and more likely to listen to Erdogan... so no matter what Putin says I don't think Erdogan will be satisfied to make it Russia vs him on his own... he will make it Turkey and if possible NATO vs Russia.
It crossed illegally our airspace. It got shot down. Until now no russian jet has crossed our airspace again. So the message was delivered.
There is no evidence the aircraft ever entered Turkish air space, there is clear evidence and an admission it was shot down by turkish fighters and there has been no apology or regret over the murder of one of the crew and indeed a member of the rescue party.
The message delivered was that Turkey is on the side of the terrorists and oil smugglers.
Russia got the message and have adjusted their tactics and procedures accordingly... SAMS are in place and all bombers will now have armed escorts to deal with any other aircraft interfering with Russian bombers.
It really bothers me how retarded some internet warriors are here. 90% of you guys are obese video game nerds and you think you can talk about war / peace. If we stood infront each other i doubt i wouldn´t even notice you guys as individual persons.
The really funny thing is that you come to a forum run by an ex VDV soldier with all sorts of people on here including people from serbia who fought off NATO for a couple of months pretty much on their own and you say the above quote about them... and on another thread you say:
The albanians fucked you up good. Kosovo is the best humilation in the last decade.
And then with a bit of class you mention Beslan...
btw how is Beslan doing nowadays?
You think the deaths of children is an acceptable comeback.
I am a very patient and understanding person, but I also have a role on this forum of keeping the peace.
I banned you before for a couple of days because you could not play well with others, and to be honest I felt a little guilty because I felt you had the right to an opinion and to express that opinion without insult or fear of insult.
It is however clear that nothing has changed and you still don't play well with others here... you don't contribute anything I can see as being useful other than a head in the mud differing opinion and abuse. Much of that abuse is returned in kind leading to arguments rather than discussions, and while it takes two to tango I am banning you.
This was not because members have asked on the forum for you to be banned... this is not a democracy.
This is my decision because you bring nothing of value and are disruptive in that you use abuse to demean the groups others belong to rather than just personal abuse.
Might come as a shock but I don't care if you don't like one Serb or one Russian but if you come to a forum with lots of serbs and lots of Russians and start abusing them all as a group, then you are clearly not very intelligent.
BTW if you had taken the time to read some older posts I have mentioned the respect I have for the Turkish people. As a New Zealander I know the honour you have treated our dead at Gallipoli and from other conflicts. It is sad to meet a Turk who so quickly forgets honour and respect so I have no problem banning you right now... Goodbye.