Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

The Kurds have threatened to take the war to the cities of Turkey

http://vz.ru/news/2016/2/17/794864.html

"At the moment we are discussing the issue of the transfer of military operations in the city. Obviously, for the conduct of urban warfare – a very risky move. The basis for the actions of the PKK has always been a rural area... But current conditions dictate the need to change tactics," said Karayilan RIA "Novosti".

Dima wrote:Another good one from ANNA framing the frontline with SAA's Suqr Al Sahara/Desert Falcons in Latakia

Thanks Dima, like ANNA news stuff, not artificially dramtic like CNN just like you took a cam and film this war...

An explosion in central Ankara today targetted 3 military buses. 28 dead, many more injured, and the toll is expected to rise.

It is unknown who carried out the attack at this point.

zorobabel wrote:An explosion in central Ankara today targetted 3 military buses. 28 dead, many more injured, and the toll is expected to rise.

It is unknown who carried out the attack at this point.

One possibility - a Turkish false flag in order to pin blame on the Kurds, which would then 'justify' creation of a Turkish buffer zone in Syria along the border.

It could be Kurds, though.
But I bet that in the most nearest future Erdogan gives a go to Turkish occupation of at least some part of Northern Syria..

Bolt wrote:It could be Kurds, though.
But I bet that in the most nearest future Erdogan gives a go to Turkish occupation of at least some part of Northern Syria..

If he does do that, I really really really hope, he gets screwed hard.

Bolt wrote:It could be Kurds, though.
But I bet that in the most nearest future Erdogan gives a go to Turkish occupation of at least some part of Northern Syria..

It could be, if their intent was to give Turkey an excuse to invade Syria.

An article from 15 February.

Turkey is about to launch a false flag operation so they can invade Syria.

http://www.321gold.com/editorials/moriarty/moriarty021516.html

GunshipDemocracy wrote:The Kurds have threatened to take the war to the cities of Turkey

http://vz.ru/news/2016/2/17/794864.html

"At the moment we are discussing the issue of the transfer of military operations in the city. Obviously, for the conduct of urban warfare – a very risky move. The basis for the actions of the PKK has always been a rural area... But current conditions dictate the need to change tactics," said Karayilan RIA "Novosti".

This should incite/enrage the micro-penis wielding Turdogan to act without thinking (he barely thinks as it is). Let's see if he takes the bait...

GunshipDemocracy wrote:The Kurds have threatened to take the war to the cities of Turkey

http://vz.ru/news/2016/2/17/794864.html

"At the moment we are discussing the issue of the transfer of military operations in the city. Obviously, for the conduct of urban warfare – a very risky move. The basis for the actions of the PKK has always been a rural area... But current conditions dictate the need to change tactics," said Karayilan RIA "Novosti".

Is the timing of such a thing appropriate? atm. the Media is trying to portray the Kurds as good guys and Turkey as bad guys. Aggression on behalf of the Kurds could undo that.

"NATO is not involved in Syria, so please refer to the Turkish authorities," the official said.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160217/1034929634/nato-turkey-shelling.html#ixzz40U1dHnv4

this reminds me 1991 Gulf war background when US media and military sources pointed out months before the iraqi invasion that "US hasn't any military agreement with Kuwait" and Saddam was fooled that they will not react and invaded Kuwait

Turdish-Kurdish conflict...meets globalization:

short_fuze wrote:

zorobabel wrote:An explosion in central Ankara today targetted 3 military buses. 28 dead, many more injured, and the toll is expected to rise.

It is unknown who carried out the attack at this point.

One possibility - a Turkish false flag in order to pin blame on the Kurds, which would then 'justify' creation of a Turkish buffer zone in Syria along the border.

The possibility of a false-flag is very low in this case. If for any reason they wanted to stage a false flag, they would have targeted their own civilians, not the military. There are other reasons for my current assessment of this situation.

I think this is just an event related to the Turkish civil war that was mentioned a couple of month ago here as having been switched on.

By the way, as this happened in Ankara, they were forced to announce it.

Ankara is quick to poin the finger to Kurds.

https://www.rt.com/news/332848-ankara-blast-syrian-kurds/

Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu has accused forces linked with the Syrian Kurdish YPG militia of the terrorist attack in Ankara on Wednesday. Ankara promised to continue to shell the YPG, with the Syrian Kurds denying all allegations and saying Islamic State is behind the attack.

Turkey is going to start looking like Yemen pretty soon:

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

short_fuze wrote:

zorobabel wrote:An explosion in central Ankara today targetted 3 military buses. 28 dead, many more injured, and the toll is expected to rise.

It is unknown who carried out the attack at this point.

One possibility - a Turkish false flag in order to pin blame on the Kurds, which would then 'justify' creation of a Turkish buffer zone in Syria along the border.

The possibility of a false-flag is very low in this case. If for any reason they wanted to stage a false flag, they would have targeted their own civilians, not the military. There are other reasons for my current assessment of this situation.

I think this is just an event related to the Turkish civil war that was mentioned a couple of month ago here as having been switched on.

By the way, as this happened in Ankara, they were forced to announce it.

I agree, I don't think this is a false flag. It looks like the PKK took a deep breath of fresh air from the 'Northern Wind™'. These incidents happened not so long after the Kurds established a consulate in Moscow, and it looks similar to what happened after one high ranking Yemeni Army official met with a top ranking member in Russian Embassy in Yemen, we saw a plethora of embarrassing defeats for the GCC vermin in Yemen that followed after that meeting:

https://www.russiadefence.net/t3118p915-yemeni-conflict-news#141329

Remember Embassy's are intelligence outposts first and foremost, the function of 'diplomacy' is ceremonial and comes at a distant second.

What I'm saying is not completely unheard-of, the other military superpower across the Atlantic engages in similar practices, such as when high ranking U.S. diplomats meet the Ukrainian or Turkish officials, we see there respective military's conduct wide-scale military operations right after those meeting have concluded.

Some reports that TAK, a more violent Kurdish group, has claimed responsibility. As I stated on reddit, I thought from the beginning that the attack was carried out by TAK, 'with a wink from Mr. Putin.'

Amidst all the rhetoric coming from the Erdoganists, it's easy to miss the significance of the attack. They killed scores of Turkish soldiers in the middle of Turkey's capital, mere feet from parliament.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0VS245 << Report on TAK claiming responsibility.

They also killed 6 Turkish troops in an attack yesterday. The two attacks seem to be more sophisticated than their previous attacks.

zorobabel wrote:http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0VS245 << Report on TAK claiming responsibility.

They also killed 6 Turkish troops in an attack yesterday. The two attacks seem to be more sophisticated than their previous attacks.

Right before Russia started its air campaign in Syria, a massive arms/ammo depot in Southern Turkey was blown sky high. The Turks should of never supported the insurgency in Chechnya and Dagestan, and shooting down the Su-24 was the icing on the cake, or more accurately the final nail in the coffin. I'll be shocked if Turkey and Ukraine still exists in one-piece by 2030.

Erdogan et al. really want to spend their last moment in an M113, don't they ?

https://www.rt.com/news/333149-turkey-demands-unconditional-us-support/

Ankara has urged Washington to unconditionally support the expansion of its battle against the terror threat, in particular Kurdish militias, warning that those hindering Turkey’s right to self-defense will be considered terrorists and acted upon accordingly. “The only thing we expect from our US ally is to support Turkey with no ifs or buts,” Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu told a news conference after a five-hour security meeting with cabinet and state officials.

Diệm-Nhu are waiting for them in Hell, if any.

higurashihougi wrote:Erdogan et al. really want to spend their last moment in an M113, don't they ?

https://www.rt.com/news/333149-turkey-demands-unconditional-us-support/

Ankara has urged Washington to unconditionally support the expansion of its battle against the terror threat, in particular Kurdish militias, warning that those hindering Turkey’s right to self-defense will be considered terrorists and acted upon accordingly. “The only thing we expect from our US ally is to support Turkey with no ifs or buts,” Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu told a news conference after a five-hour security meeting with cabinet and state officials.

Diệm-Nhu are waiting for them in Hell, if any.

Turkey's discourse with their perceived US "gods" is scripted to be practically identical to their discourse with their perceived Nazi German "gods" during WWII.

Back then, after Turkey realized Russia was gobbling up Nazi Germany, they switched their tone to grovelling before Russia and begging Russia for forgiveness.

A Russian book had a very informative account of those events. Can't remember which one, possibly "Commander" by Vladimir Karpov.

Also the parallels with the Operation (sic) Pike is interesting, with the Operation (sic) Pike being a must-read.

zorobabel wrote:http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0VS245 << Report on TAK claiming responsibility.

They also killed 6 Turkish troops in an attack yesterday. The two attacks seem to be more sophisticated than their previous attacks.

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zorobabel wrote:Some reports that TAK, a more violent Kurdish group, has claimed responsibility. As I stated on reddit, I thought from the beginning that the attack was carried out by TAK, 'with a wink from Mr. Putin.'

Amidst all the rhetoric coming from the Erdoganists, it's easy to miss the significance of the attack. They killed scores of Turkish soldiers in the middle of Turkey's capital, mere feet from parliament.

Correction, they killed Air Force personnel convoy (a couple of buses) outside Turkish Air Force HQ (HKK) in the capital, after exiting main gate.





TBMM is the regime's parliament.

#PoliteStrοnk

KiloGolf wrote:

zorobabel wrote:Some reports that TAK, a more violent Kurdish group, has claimed responsibility. As I stated on reddit, I thought from the beginning that the attack was carried out by TAK, 'with a wink from Mr. Putin.'

Amidst all the rhetoric coming from the Erdoganists, it's easy to miss the significance of the attack. They killed scores of Turkish soldiers in the middle of Turkey's capital, mere feet from parliament.

Unlikely Putin but why not Turkish General Staff members? Why pilots? to stop Erdogan to kill even more Turks by entering war with Russia?

You think why so many pilots were gathered in one place with high command? I presume not to discuss Russian-Turkish football match.

Hey guyzzzzzz!

Remember this!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb6DWmJXIAAJNkS.jpg:large



That's da Javelin. No for Ukraine. Yes for Rojava!...cue Gispy music!

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/turkiye/485563/Adli_Tip__Erdogan_ve_Davutoglu_nu_yalanladi...Canli_bomba_Turkiye_vatandasi__TAK_li_cikti....html#

BTW the Turks lied about the bomber. It's not a TAK member. But some other guy previously unknown.

https://twitter.com/avjin737/status/701808197657612290

AKP being AKP!

KoTeMoRe wrote:Hey guyzzzzzz!

Remember this!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb6DWmJXIAAJNkS.jpg:large



That's da Javelin. No for Ukraine. Yes for Rojava!...cue Gispy music!

western countries are arming Kurds!