Kurdish [PKK,YPG]–Turkish conflict

A little ironic as the US special forces in Afghanistan in the 1980s used to try mortar attacks on Soviet air bases in Afghanistan... an example of the early use of GPS to locate their position and try to hit a target area blind. (note no guided shells were used... they just used standard Soviet 120mm mortars).

magnumcromagnon wrote:

airstrike wrote:Video: Kurdish PKK fighters fire mortars at Turkish base housing UH-60 Blackhawk helicopters

http://echelon-defense.com/2016/09/14/video-kurdish-pkk-fighters-fire-mortars-at-turkish-base-housing-uh-60-blackhawk-helicopters/

The Turks took a real anus pounding here, I can't wait for KoTeMoRe's response to this lol!

Looks like 120's peppered a couple of BH from the approximative accuracy i'd say this is a 4/5 km shot, not too bad i guess. They should have waited longer.

Video: Kurdish PKK blows up a Turkish Otokar Cobra armored vehicle in Van

http://echelon-defense.com/2016/09/19/video-kurdish-pkk-blows-up-a-turkish-otokar-cobra-armored-vehicle-in-van/

tbh I don't know what took them this long to release this.

Kurdish PKK releases footage of IED attack it carried out in July

http://conflict-watch.com/2016/09/23/kurdish-pkk-releases-footage-of-ied-attack-it-carried-out-in-july/

airstrike wrote:tbh I don't know what took them this long to release this.

Kurdish PKK releases footage of IED attack it carried out in July

http://conflict-watch.com/2016/09/23/kurdish-pkk-releases-footage-of-ied-attack-it-carried-out-in-july/

First confirmed loss of the Ejder Yalçin. Damn they overkilled that MRAP. For sure that was Kurdish Space Agency first flight to the Moon.

Explosion on railway track leaves train driver wounded in southeastern Turkey

http://conflict-watch.com/2016/09/25/explosion-on-railway-track-leaves-train-driver-wounded-in-southeastern-turkey/

Video: Kurdish PKK fighters storm a Turkish Army base

http://conflict-watch.com/2016/09/26/video-kurdish-pkk-fighters-storm-a-turkish-army-base/

VBIED attack in Hakkari province killed 9+ soldiers (latest report says 13) and several civilians:



http://aryenhaber5.com/hakkari-semdinlide-hayatini-kaybeden-asker-sayisi-13-oldu/

SVBIED? PKK? I died a little inside.

KoTeMoRe wrote:SVBIED? PKK? I died a little inside.

But not when they attacked SAA positions in 2015/16? Militant Kurds have proven that they cant be trusted, they've caused clashes in virtually every country they've had a presence in, whether its Iran, Turkey, Iraq, and finally in Syria, and they have a serious dark history of ethnic cleansing (something that Westerners have conveniently ignored)....our position should be to sit back and eat some popcorn. Nothing better than to see two forms of putrid wipe each other out. If only we could get JAN and ISIS to wipe each other out on a more regular basis.

Turkish-backed FSA have been attacking YPG/SDF-held Sheikh Issa and Harbul for 3 days backed by Turkish airstrikes and artillery -- failed to take either. Turkey is now sending in tanks. 1 Turkish tank disabled already.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:SVBIED? PKK? I died a little inside.

But not when they attacked SAA positions in 2015/16? Militant Kurds have proven that they cant be trusted, they've caused clashes in virtually every country they've had a presence in, whether its Iran, Turkey, Iraq, and finally in Syria, and they have a serious dark history of ethnic cleansing (something that Westerners have conveniently ignored)....our position should be to sit back and eat some popcorn. Nothing better than to see two forms of putrid wipe each other out. If only we could get JAN and ISIS to wipe each other out on a more regular basis.

PYD has never used these kind of tactics in Syria AFAIK. PKK has had word passed for suicide in case of cornering, but this just like any Al Nusra, ISIS video. While I get that there's "nothing exceptional" about this, it's still very disheartening. I'm not deploring IED's, VBIED's. But this is Jihadi stuff.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:SVBIED? PKK? I died a little inside.

But not when they attacked SAA positions in 2015/16? Militant Kurds have proven that they cant be trusted, they've caused clashes in virtually every country they've had a presence in, whether its Iran, Turkey, Iraq, and finally in Syria, and they have a serious dark history of ethnic cleansing (something that Westerners have conveniently ignored)....our position should be to sit back and eat some popcorn. Nothing better than to see two forms of putrid wipe each other out. If only we could get JAN and ISIS to wipe each other out on a more regular basis.

PYD has never used these kind of tactics in Syria AFAIK. PKK has had word passed for suicide in case of cornering, but this just like any Al Nusra, ISIS video. While I get that there's "nothing exceptional" about this, it's still very disheartening. I'm not deploring IED's, VBIED's. But this is Jihadi stuff.

Yes, the military wing of the PKK seems to have become more radicalized over the past 2 years of fighting.

zorobabel wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:SVBIED? PKK? I died a little inside.

But not when they attacked SAA positions in 2015/16? Militant Kurds have proven that they cant be trusted, they've caused clashes in virtually every country they've had a presence in, whether its Iran, Turkey, Iraq, and finally in Syria, and they have a serious dark history of ethnic cleansing (something that Westerners have conveniently ignored)....our position should be to sit back and eat some popcorn. Nothing better than to see two forms of putrid wipe each other out. If only we could get JAN and ISIS to wipe each other out on a more regular basis.

PYD has never used these kind of tactics in Syria AFAIK. PKK has had word passed for suicide in case of cornering, but this just like any Al Nusra, ISIS video. While I get that there's "nothing exceptional" about this, it's still very disheartening. I'm not deploring IED's, VBIED's. But this is Jihadi stuff.

Yes, the military wing of the PKK seems to have become more radicalized over the past 2 years of fighting.

PKK was always radical IIRC, they're no different than FSA. Apparently according to my Turkish friend most of them are not Kurds but Armenians who claim to be Kurds anyways seriously those guys are no good either, it wouldn't be right to cheer them up the same way cheering up FSA is.

VladimirSahin wrote:

zorobabel wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:SVBIED? PKK? I died a little inside.

But not when they attacked SAA positions in 2015/16? Militant Kurds have proven that they cant be trusted, they've caused clashes in virtually every country they've had a presence in, whether its Iran, Turkey, Iraq, and finally in Syria, and they have a serious dark history of ethnic cleansing (something that Westerners have conveniently ignored)....our position should be to sit back and eat some popcorn. Nothing better than to see two forms of putrid wipe each other out. If only we could get JAN and ISIS to wipe each other out on a more regular basis.

PYD has never used these kind of tactics in Syria AFAIK. PKK has had word passed for suicide in case of cornering, but this just like any Al Nusra, ISIS video. While I get that there's "nothing exceptional" about this, it's still very disheartening. I'm not deploring IED's, VBIED's. But this is Jihadi stuff.

Yes, the military wing of the PKK seems to have become more radicalized over the past 2 years of fighting.

PKK was always radical IIRC, they're no different than FSA. Apparently according to my Turkish friend most of them are not Kurds but Armenians who claim to be Kurds anyways seriously those guys are no good either, it wouldn't be right to cheer them up the same way cheering up FSA is.

PKK has always been radical because they were a Marxist movement, but they never relied on SVBIED's because of the impact these things have. Although there have been even more radical groups than the PKK that have gone to those lengths, the Mo has always been one of guerilla, not jihadi crap.

Turkish military forces hit 51 positions of the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) in northern Syria, according to the statement of Turkey's General Staff.

Our Armed Forces hit eight IS positions and 51 positions of the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD). Syrian opposition continues conducting operation on driving PYD militants out of the three settlements to the south of the city of Marea. The fighting resulted in deaths of four and injuries of 20 opposition fighters. Three PYD militants were eliminated," the Turkish Defense Ministry said.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201610231046633402-turkey-pyd-syria/

lol!   Turkish Land Forces doesnt use BMP-1.

Turkish tanks reportedly retreating to Al-Rai after the unsuccessful attempt to dislodge YPG-SDF from several villages: https://twitter.com/Syria_Rebel_Obs/status/790197325863985156

Crazy erdogan, 20milion Kurds, and he wants more. All of them from Syria and almost all from Iraq.  

Erdogan mouthpiece aTV showing Turkey's expanded map as if it's the most natural thing in the world and the Turks jump for joy.


This man...
Turkey: Mosul and Aleppo belong to Turks - Erdogan

calm wrote:Crazy erdogan, 20milion Kurds, and he wants more. All of them from Syria and almost all from Iraq.  

Erdogan mouthpiece aTV showing Turkey's expanded map as if it's the most natural thing in the world and the Turks jump for joy.

This map is Misak-ı Millî Borders.

Mustafa Kemal said "It is the nation's iron fist that writes the Nation's Oath which is the main principle of our independence to the annals of history."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misak-ı_Millî

But We don't think to expand our borders in nowadays.

Also I didn't watch video but I will watch soon.

calm wrote:Crazy erdogan, 20milion Kurds, and he wants more. All of them from Syria and almost all from Iraq.  

Erdogan mouthpiece aTV showing Turkey's expanded map as if it's the most natural thing in the world and the Turks jump for joy.


This man...
Turkey: Mosul and Aleppo belong to Turks - Erdogan

And still some in this forum talk about secret deals between Russia and Turkey.

It's all just talk from Turkey guys, behind curtains the situations is very different

somehow I am hoping turkey walks into this trap. nothing good ever comes out of invading iraq.