The Situation in the Ukraine. #12

macedonian wrote:good tweet

Yury Barmin @yurybarmin

Yuri Barmin wrote:When you amass so much military in #Odessa it's people's outrage, not a "Russian provocation", you are afraid of.

the funny part in this?. that Kiev and their puppet Master the U.S is seeing the same images. this picture is just an portion of NAF,....how much do you think stands against Kiev's defeated ragtag army?.

kvs wrote:The Washington Post propaganda piece is pathetic.   The vast majority of those leaving are going to Russia.   Especially if they are
from the south and east (e.g. Kharkov).   Many of them are military industry workers and they have jobs offered to them in Russia.
Going to Canada, for example, will see them driving taxis or some other degradation of their employment status.  

Sure, some of them are heading for the NATO promised land.  But WP and the rest of the western media just can't stop lying.

That's what I was going to post; Washington Post just can't handle the fact that Russia is more of a 'promised land' to fleeing/emigrating Ukrainians than America and Europe is; and has to twist the truth in a BS way instead - 'even Russia'.

Pathetic.

Ukraine claims Russia training 50,000 strong rebel army.

Flagship Victory wrote:Ukraine claims Russia training 50,000 strong rebel army.

Let's hope it is

Someone needs to pull the plug on the pieces of follicle excriment reigning in Kiev

Everytime I suspect the Ukraine has reached the bottom of the barrel, I turn out to be wrong and it plunges further still. The country is simply destroying itself; it would be a merciful act to smash their army and topple their government - the longer this goes on for the less chance that anything will remain there other than some Mad Max style failed hellhole.

Flagship Victory wrote:Ukraine claims Russia training 50,000 strong rebel army.

They have a credibility problem but if it's true they have a more serious problem than what they can handle.

Let's hope it is

Someone needs to pull the plug on the pieces of follicle excriment reigning in Kiev

Everytime I suspect the Ukraine has reached the bottom of the barrel, I turn out to be wrong and it plunges further still. The country is simply destroying itself; it would be a merciful act to smash their army and topple their government - the longer this goes on for the less chance that anything will remain there other than some Mad Max style failed hellhole.

Liberating the russian speaking regions and allowing the peoples there to live without fear of the american-backed fascist scum in Kiev, would be enough. Something must happen, this can't go on forever, those peoples in Novorussia deserve the right to a normal life goddammit, not live in a state of continuous war under the spectre of a fascist invasion and under daily harrassing from the Kiev pigs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnpAIKlYI3A

do not know if I can not post links yet

it's youtube . com / watch ? v = vnpAIklY3A

Правоохранители задержали участников акции возле музея ВОВ, - полное видео
Law enforcers detained the protesters near the museum of WWII - full video

Published on May 1, 2015

I'm curious to know who was arrested, thanks!

*Yea! I can now post links!

Flagship Victory wrote:Ukraine claims Russia training 50,000 strong rebel army.

And the USA + other NATO states are training the Right Sector derived Kiev regime "army".

So bite me, Poroshenko, Obama and friends.

Vann7 wrote:

American generals have been politicians for a long time. This sort of blowhard BS is their way of fighting the information
war.

I can't believe that the cold war is still infesting the minds of so many people in the west. It's not like anybody
lived through a WWII like experience.

It's rather sick that Germany was basically forgiven really quickly for staging the worst slaughter in history but
Russia has become some sort of indefinite cultural enemy of the west because of some cold war, which was
mostly hate propaganda.

kvs wrote:

Vann7 wrote:

American generals have been politicians for a long time.  This sort of blowhard BS is their way of fighting the information
war.  

I can't believe that the cold war is still infesting the minds of so many people in the west.  It's not like anybody
lived through a WWII like experience.  

It's rather sick that Germany was basically forgiven really quickly for staging the worst slaughter in history but
Russia has become some sort of indefinite cultural enemy of the west because of some cold war, which was
mostly hate propaganda.  

Wasn't it the US Generals that coined the propaganda terms "friendly fire' and "collateral damage" during Desert Storm in Iraq?

Odessa. Remember.

The Odessa Massacre - What REALLY Happened
https://youtu.be/H4dJRnI-X8Q

From Russian Insider..
Very Interesting report of the life of the criminal thug know as bandera.. the so called "Nazi"
by the less educated people. With a very impressive photographic documentation of the crimes
of the Ultra Nationals Ukrainians.. lead by Bandera..  



Interesting things the report reveals.. (but also suggest)

1)Bandera was not a NAZI on ideology ,he had his own.,he was an opportunist . He only took advantage of the German NAzi Invasion on Russia ,to push his Ukraine for Ukrainians dreamed land and get their Independence from soviet Russia.. The NAZIs only used him..for intelligence and had very different plans for Ukraine and arrested Bandera and killed his brothers
when they began to organize too much and become too popular..
2)The Bandera ideology was nothing more than the independence of Ukraine and the ethnic cleansin of Jews ,Russians ,Polish ,Hungarians and Communist. in other words any nation or group that could oppose their Ukraine independence.
3)NAZIS were shocked by the brutality of banderas in Ukraine.Poland , the committed many massacres on unarmed civilians just for fun and pure hate.. Jews where the most hated ones.. Ukrainians saw Bolshevicks and Jewish as the same thing..
4)Canada gave refuge to the Bandera families after Soviets killed the Bandera excrement with a shot in the head.. so that they could continue from CANADA helping to maintain the Banderism alive ,and save from Russian KGB or today FSB.
5)UK also support Banderism movement and have museums.
6) If this well documented story is correct ..there are people pointing out in forums
that it largely contradict the Holodomor/Staline ethnic cleansing of Ukrainians.

In this picture a jewish women ,semi undress ,and chased and beaten on the streets of
western Ukraine by the Ukrainian Ultra nationalist followers of Bandera. What you see there
is what the Ukrainians Bandera ultra nationalist did ..and soon the german tooks control territory of Russia in soviet times , they began to arrest ,beat or kill civilians and rape womens..nationalist took revenge against all the minorities in Ukraine .



Now comes the modern times.. Today so called neonazis Right Sector and Svovoda party ,
and neither NAZIs and even though support Bandera.. have changed abit their ideology
courtesy of American Congress $$billions to Americanize the Bandera movement towards
being more friendly to US interest and its allies.. and hostile ONLY to Russia. This is the Reason Poland Government support them.. Jews Oligarchs too.providing them money and weapons. Kolomorski is a jew and support the banderas.. Today banderism even though its criminality is the same..they are now more tolerant to Jews Oligarch who rules Ukraine today and Poland which surprise surprise are allies to USA.. So Nulanderas or Neoconderas.. could be a more accurate name to what we have
today in Ukraine.  

here the bandera scum at the time of his death by a Russian KGB.. that day should be celebrated in the entire world.



More pictures inside of the ethnic cleansin of Jews/Russians/Hungarians in Ukraine by Bandera thugs


http://russia-insider.com/en/who-stepan-bandera/6217

Cowboy's daughter wrote:

Cyberspec wrote:

macedonian wrote:Not good:

Chernobyl fire radiation hazard as 'hot particles' of plutonium go up in smoke

Trying to shove a square peg into a round hole
Ukrainian nuclear industry is playing Russian roulette

Ukraine operates Soviet-design reactors, such as the VVER-1000, whose nuclear fuel has specific qualities that have to be matched exactly in order to avoid safety problems. Whether Westinghouse and the Ukrainian nuclear industry are capable of dealing with this politically-imposed solution is still an open question.






That's horrifying to me.

Right after Chernobyl, Galen Winsor suggested that someone slipped the soviets a "mickey", implying sabotage.  He said the plant was designed to run MOX fuel, but retrofitted to use uranium metal clad in zirconium.  When the zirconium failed, the pyrophoric uranium metal caught fire, and eventually lit the graphite stack as well.  All this in an attempt to increase power by a factor of 4 at the plant.

Some say don't attribute malice to stupidity, but it is war after all.  Definitely something I'd worry about given the levels of both malice and stupidity shown of late.

Vann7 wrote:Very Interesting report of the life of the criminal thug know as bandera.. the so called "Nazi" by the less educated people.

Vann,

Actually they are called "Nazi", "lackeys", or "drones" by the "even more highly educated" people for reasons that I have explained in at least one of my earlier posts. The exact same reason apply when Saudis are also called "Nazis". It is all very intentional and correct. Read my earlier posts.

flamming_python wrote:

Flagship Victory wrote:Ukraine claims Russia training 50,000 strong rebel army.

Let's hope it is

Someone needs to pull the plug on the pieces of follicle excriment reigning in Kiev

Everytime I suspect the Ukraine has reached the bottom of the barrel, I turn out to be wrong and it plunges further still. The country is simply destroying itself; it would be a merciful act to smash their army and topple their government - the longer this goes on for the less chance that anything will remain there other than some Mad Max style failed hellhole.

Somebody on fort russ described it perfectly in just a few words; (the kiev junta are) clowns in a burning circus. I had to laugh because that's exactly what it is.

New Grishanov video on the anniversary of the Odessa Trade Unions massacre.

Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:

Vann7 wrote:Very Interesting report of the life of the criminal thug know as bandera.. the so called "Nazi" by the less educated people.

Vann,

Actually they are called "Nazi", "lackeys", or "drones" by the "even more highly educated" people for reasons that I have explained in at least one of my earlier posts. The exact same reason apply when Saudis are also called "Nazis". It is all very intentional and correct. Read my earlier posts.

Was not thinking in anyone in particular actually.. Just to show , what kind of movement was bandera,Right Sector/Svovoda party.. and the difference of each one.. the modern ones are used ,manipulated 100% US Congress funded organizations and they are financed to terrorize civilians.. So is a remake of the Terrorist Bandera/oportunist organization but now with a pro NATO flavor.

on other news.. a video uploaded by valentina de Ukrainian pianist.

MKRU via Google Translate wrote:Callsign "Gurza": the truth about the "terrorist" underground in Odessa

Photo: Marina Perevozkina

The woman said the head of the Odessa Ukraine saboteurs, told about the background of the events on May 2

April 29, 2015 at 16:13, Views: 34694
Ukrainian security services argue that modern terrorist underground in Odessa headed by a woman nicknamed "Gurza". Under its beginning, according to the SBU, now detained were dozens of terrorists, they seized hundreds of weapons, dozens of kilograms of explosives, rocket launchers, grenades, plans to conduct terrorist operations ...

We were able to talk at length with "viper." Continue reading.

MK Ru: Позывной «Гюрза»: правда о «террористическом» подполье в Одессе

Vesti UA via Google Translate wrote:In Odessa, the pro-Ukrainian forces to commemorate those killed May 2, 2014
Activists celebrate the victory over the accomplices of the invaders
May 2 | 1:19

Today, at 14.00, in Odessa on Cathedral Square pro-Ukrainian forces held a rally dedicated to the sad events of May 2 last year.
"May 2 last year, thanks to the coordinated actions of citizens of Odessa and bold plans for the occupiers and their collaborators have been thwarted. On that day we all fought and won!" - Said in a statement "the right sector, transmits the "112" . Continue Reading

Vesti UA: В Одессе проукраинские силы почтут память погибших 2 мая 2014 года

Die Presse via Google Translate wrote:Long feared to "the Russians", recently one admires them
As liberators they were not welcome, hated as occupiers, during the Cold War they were the enemy. Under Vladimir Putin, they have suddenly become models.

Sibylle Hamann (The Press)

The Russians in the collective memory of Austria this word woke decades not too positive associations. This day, 70 years after the liberation, we think yes again more to them. At the Red Army soldiers, as they then occupied Vienna: emaciated, traumatized, homesick, exhausted by years of fighting figures.

For ten years they would remain - one would call them occupiers, and later remember especially their rapes. Unlike the US soldiers brought them with no chewing gum, and no other tantalizing glimpse of the big wide world. For many of them it was the first time that they were away from Russia. Even the rubble of Vienna appeared to them luxurious compared to some villages devastated hunger at home.Continue Reading

DiePresse: Lang fürchtete man „die Russen“, neuerdings bewundert man sie

Again without links, sorry.

May those that died and were killed in Odessa rest in peace and we should never forgot them. They never forgot their ancestors, their history and what they really are, even though the motherlan showed zero interest for them during 25 years.
I will never forget seeing it all live on the stream, those horrible pictures nor will I forget Russia's so called "response" basically nothing.
Those that commited those crimes and support it as somekind of victory are neither, slavs, christians and will never be considered brothers.
Hopefully sooner or later Odessa and those living there will be liberated or free from Banderas ancestors.

Hey guys, decided to register on this forum as MP.net was closed and I just got banned from TheMess.net. Apparently having an unfriendly opinion towards Ukraine and its Western backers is a big no-no "behavior". That website is basically another giant circle jerk that was MP.net under people like "digrar" and his fellow cronies.

Anyway, this website seems to have a pretty good Ukrainian discussion so I'll stick around if that's okay

higurashihougi wrote:Can you put the name in original language ? We can search for them using these names in Google.

I forgot the original names, sorry.

DiePresse: Lang fürchtete man „die Russen“, neuerdings bewundert man sie
MK Ru: Позывной «Гюрза»: правда о «террористическом» подполье в Одессе
Vesti UA: В Одессе проукраинские силы почтут память погибших 2 мая 2014 года

Neutrality wrote:Hey guys, decided to register on this forum as MP.net was closed and I just got banned from TheMess.net. Apparently having an unfriendly opinion towards Ukraine and its Western backers is a big no-no "behavior". That website is basically another giant circle jerk that was MP.net under people like "digrar" and his fellow cronies.

Anyway, this website seems to have a pretty good Ukrainian discussion so I'll stick around if that's okay

One or two of the mods on mp.net were nasty power trip people, can't remember the names, something like Hollis was one, if they are involved in the mess then it's probably going to be much the same.

There is a lot happening in Ukraine behind the scenes, you can sense the manipulation, the trick it to gather enough data in one place to get a clearer picture on what is going on, that's why forums like this are important.