too coward to go to russia?

i know someone that says would like to visit russia.....but....hes afraid....of the unknown....and possible threats that can meet there.
what do you say about such a person?
i wonder what can loose if he make the step and go to russia? what so important? or is indoctrinated? maibe is afraid to start a new life .....
maibe i dont know ..... he is too coward to put other interests in front of others?

victor1985 wrote:i know someone that says would like to visit russia.....but....hes afraid....of the unknown....and possible threats that can meet there.
what do you say about such a person?

Book a group tour, boring but safe.

victor1985 wrote:i wonder what can loose if he make the step and go to russia? what so important? or is indoctrinated? maibe is afraid to start a new life .....

Or maybe he just doesn't want another shitty experience for following other's advice.

victor1985 wrote:maibe i dont know ..... he is too coward to put other interests in front of others?

Many people love all inclusive holidays because they haven't to face locals and deal with communication and cultural barriers.

yeah boring....but on the other side he looses something that wishes very much. he need to reach to russia. but....like i said ....the unknown.....
i refeered to the fact that he cant put some of his interests in front of others interests of him. in other words he want that ......but is too coward...maibe. because he was indoctrinated by west with some stuff.
one is that russia is something foreign. other thing is that he cant handle do something itself especially in a foreign country. other would be that "west also want him to handle ...something" ....
and the main thing is that that "himself like freedom no doubt about that"

and another stuff would be....girls.....
that all are said by west

victor1985 wrote:yeah boring....but on the other side he looses something that wishes very much. he need to reach to russia. but....like i said ....the unknown.....
i refeered to the fact that he cant put some of his interests in front of others interests of him. in other words he want that ......but is too coward...maibe. because he was indoctrinated by west with some stuff.
one is that russia is something foreign. other thing is that he cant handle do something itself especially in a foreign country. other would be that "west also want him to handle ...something" ....
and the main thing is that that "himself like freedom no doubt about that"

victor1985 wrote:and another stuff would be....girls.....
that all are said by west

Let's see if I understand it correctly...

... your friends thinks that Russia is a free will libertarian paradise where he can find true love through sex tourism but he's afraid of going out of his confront zone because he thinks he's unprepared for so much freedom, am I right?

whir wrote:

victor1985 wrote:yeah boring....but on the other side he looses something that wishes very much. he need to reach to russia. but....like i said ....the unknown.....
i refeered to the fact that he cant put some of his interests in front of others interests of him. in other words he want that ......but is too coward...maibe. because he was indoctrinated by west with some stuff.
one is that russia is something foreign. other thing is that he cant handle do something itself especially in a foreign country. other would be that "west also want him to handle ...something" ....
and the main thing is that that "himself like freedom no doubt about that"

victor1985 wrote:and another stuff would be....girls.....
that all are said by west

Let's see if I understand it correctly...

... your friends thinks that Russia is a free will libertarian paradise where he can find true love through sex tourism but he's afraid of going out of his confront zone because he thinks he's unprepared for so much freedom, am I right?

You've certainly understood more than I did

whir wrote:

victor1985 wrote:yeah boring....but on the other side he looses something that wishes very much. he need to reach to russia. but....like i said ....the unknown.....
i refeered to the fact that he cant put some of his interests in front of others interests of him. in other words he want that ......but is too coward...maibe. because he was indoctrinated by west with some stuff.
one is that russia is something foreign. other thing is that he cant handle do something itself especially in a foreign country. other would be that "west also want him to handle ...something" ....
and the main thing is that that "himself like freedom no doubt about that"

victor1985 wrote:and another stuff would be....girls.....
that all are said by west

Let's see if I understand it correctly...

... your friends thinks that Russia is a free will libertarian paradise where he can find true love through sex tourism but he's afraid of going out of his confront zone because he thinks he's unprepared for so much freedom, am I right?

no....it's opossite.....for some reasons he wants to go to russia but the people who like west around him told him that he will not get all those in russia. and that he will regret the decision to go to russia. my opinion is that those people wants to scary him about russia.

victor1985 wrote:no....it's opossite.....for some reasons he wants to go to russia but the people who like west around him told him that he will not get all those in russia. and that he will regret the decision to go to russia. my opinion is that those people wants to scary him about russia.

Probably those people just have an stereotypic image of Russia, nothing to worry about.

And if he finally decides to go you should advice him not to do stupid things like hiking alone, driving on ice, feeding bears, etc. Basically all those cool things you shouldn't do neither in Russia nor in any other place.

Tell your friend not to go, could happen that he becomes alcoholic, playing balailaika and hunting for bears while forgeting all vocabulars except swear words.


What do westerners know about russia? Majority of americans couldn't even point Russia on the globus while statistically the chances are the highest to point on russia just by accident due its size.

Werewolf wrote:Tell your friend not to go, could happen that he becomes alcoholic, playing balailaika and hunting for bears while forgeting all vocabulars except swear words.


What do westerners know about russia? Majority of americans couldn't even point Russia on the globus while statistically the chances are the highest to point on russia just by accident due its size.

Most Westerners could find Russia on the globe. Most Americans unfortunately are hard pressed to find their own State on a map.

Why not remind him that if he does go and doesn't like it he can always go back home.

I would suggest going to Russia for a holiday for a month... just find a location he likes and go there... he can look around for accomodation and perhaps to see if he can get a job... and if he likes it and seems to be able to get job offers easily enough then change from a holiday to a move.

If he doesn't like it he can always just do fun things and then go home when his time runs out.

BTW the trip will be on a holiday visa so I am not suggesting actually taking a job as that would break the rules... just see what jobs are available and how well qualified he is to get those jobs.

My nephew went to Russia for a bit... his favourite was a place where they sold Vodka and allowed you to shoot firearms... I think it was a Concern Kalashnikov related business... had great fun...

Stereotypes are not a good way to judge things... I know lots of people who have gone to London and had a good time... I know one person who was murdered when she went there by a local loony.

A holiday would let you make up your own mind without any permanent commitments either way.

i dont believe fear to be an effective motivator but...

but seriously just tell your friend to nut up. its only a vacation(well not that "vacation"), and at least he can go on an overseas trip, some of us are not so lucky and just spend it in front of the laptop and household chores

In my experience most Russian cities are a lot safer than cities here in the US.

However, if you are black or asian, you should adopt some safety precautions while traveling around Russia. Basically this guideline applies to the whole of Eastern Europe & not just Russia.

Don't go in any Russian provincial towns or villages without being armed or having professional fighting skills, or at least looking like a hulk since there's a very high chance gopniks will beat you up, rob or slash you to death just for looking too weak in their eyes.

The same applies with neighbourhoods with gypsies.

RTN wrote:In my experience most Russian cities are a lot safer than cities here in the US.

However, if you are black or asian, you should adopt some safety precautions while traveling around Russia. Basically this guideline applies to the whole of Eastern Europe & not just Russia.

I'm a white asian from India and i've noticed many indians go to Russia and many Indian sudents used to study in Ukrainian Medical Schools but due to this fiasco they all left , those who were studying in crimea are still there .

I've got no money so i can't go to Russia for time being , maybe in future who knows .


What safety precautions should I adopt btw ?

Well americans should not even talk about Black discrimination in russia , look at your country first . US is a fine example in discrimination against blacks .

max steel wrote:I'm a white asian from India

What exactly is a " white asian from India"?

lol .  Take it as only Asian . was talking to rtn .

max steel wrote:

RTN wrote:In my experience most Russian cities are a lot safer than cities here in the US.

However, if you are black or asian, you should adopt some safety precautions while traveling around Russia. Basically this guideline applies to the whole of Eastern Europe & not just Russia.

I'm a white asian from India and i've noticed many indians go to Russia and many Indian sudents used to study in Ukrainian Medical Schools but due to this fiasco they all left , those who were studying in crimea are still there .

I've got no money so i can't go to Russia for time being , maybe in future who knows .


What safety precautions should I adopt btw ?

Well americans should not even talk about Black discrimination in russia , look at your country first . US is a fine example in discrimination against blacks .

I don't have anything against blacks in Russia, Except one. They take all the girls when they come in our clubs

Finding a black person in Russia is like a dream, especially when you hear a black person talking in very accent free russian that is kind of unreal feeling, something that usually not many have seen.

By dangerous does he mean sex tourism? The most dangerous thing in Russia would be std's Even Moscow escort girls do bareback no prob.
Other than that only danger I would imagine would be traffic. Pedestrian crossings don't mean You can make it alive if You just waltz on, keep Your eyes open and only walk when You are safe.
Russia is pretty safe, there are more unsafe places in Europe to be honest.
But it depends on person, if You look like You are easy target You would probably get Yourself mugged by a priest in Vatican too.
Nothing wrong with dying in Russia too. If You happen to expire there then don't worry, there are plenty of foreigner ghosts to keep Your company. French and German languages would be very important while being a ghost in Russia.

VladimirSahin wrote:

I don't have anything against blacks in Russia, Except one. They take all the girls when they come in our clubs

Just girls?

Regular wrote:

VladimirSahin wrote:

I don't have anything against blacks in Russia, Except one. They take all the girls when they come in our clubs

Just girls?

hahahaha, I don't think there are any gay blacks in Russia though. So that can be one from U.S.

Yuch...gay people...i hate them....anyway...
Fear of my buddy is something related to communism....he believe russians dont know what freedom is...and difference of opinion....
He believe things can be something else.

victor1985 wrote:Fear of my buddy is something related to communism....he believe russians don't know what freedom is...and difference of opinion....

So according to your friend Russians don't argue among them, interesting .

victor1985 wrote:He believe things can be something else.

Judging by your words he believes many stupid things that can only be explained by his own sheer amount of idiocy.

victor1985 wrote:Yuch...gay people...i hate them....anyway...
Fear of my buddy is something related to communism....he believe russians dont know what freedom is...and difference of opinion....
He believe things can be something else.

Get new friends. Your buddy sounds like a retard.