Iraqi Army

TheArmenian wrote:Mi-35

Looks weird. S-5/8/12 and so on rockets have a specialized engine to propell them to maximum speed in less then a second so there should be siginificantly more smoke even from single rockets, but there is barely any smoke at all.

Werewolf wrote:

TheArmenian wrote:Mi-35

Looks weird. S-5/8/12 and so on rockets have a specialized engine to propell them to maximum speed in less then a second so there should be siginificantly more smoke even from single rockets, but there is barely any smoke at all.

these could be the new serbian 128mm rockets they're using. super accurate too supposedly.


these things.

http://www.yugoimport.com/en/proizvodi/br-vz-128-mm-frag-m15-aircraft-unguided-rocket-air-ground

US to Sell $800Mln of Hellfire, Captive Air Training Missiles to Iraq

Washington endorsed a sale of Hellfire missiles and Captive Air Training Missiles to Baghdad.

WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The United States has approved the sale of $800 million worth of Hellfire missiles and Captive Air Training Missiles to Iraq, The Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) announced in a statement on Thursday.

"The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Iraq of Hellfire missiles and Captive Air Training Missiles, related equipment and support. The estimated cost is $800 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on January 6, 2016," the statement said.

Washington’s latest weapons sale to Iraq comes as the United States has vowed to help Iraqi forces fight Daesh (Islamic State) within its borders, as the terrorist organization has claimed swaths of territory in the region.

DSCA said that the sale of 5,000 AGM-114K/N/R Hellfire missiles, ten 114K M36E9 Captive Air Training Missiles, as well as "associated equipment; and defense services," which major US defense contractor Lockheed Martin will produce, came at the request of Iraq.

In recent months, Iraqi security forces made progress in reclaiming Ramadi, the capital of Anbar province, after the city fell to Daesh terrorists in May, in Baghdad’s largest defeat against the extremist group.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160107/1032807113/us-iraq-hellfire-missiles.html#ixzz3waDqqQe2

George1 wrote:US to Sell $800Mln of Hellfire, Captive Air Training Missiles to Iraq

Washington endorsed a sale of Hellfire missiles and Captive Air Training Missiles to Baghdad.

WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The United States has approved the sale of $800 million worth of Hellfire missiles and Captive Air Training Missiles to Iraq, The Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) announced in a statement on Thursday.

"The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Iraq of Hellfire missiles and Captive Air Training Missiles, related equipment and support. The estimated cost is $800 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on January 6, 2016," the statement said.

Washington’s latest weapons sale to Iraq comes as the United States has vowed to help Iraqi forces fight Daesh (Islamic State) within its borders, as the terrorist organization has claimed swaths of territory in the region.

DSCA said that the sale of 5,000 AGM-114K/N/R Hellfire missiles, ten 114K M36E9 Captive Air Training Missiles, as well as "associated equipment; and defense services," which major US defense contractor Lockheed Martin will produce, came at the request of Iraq.

In recent months, Iraqi security forces made progress in reclaiming Ramadi, the capital of Anbar province, after the city fell to Daesh terrorists in May, in Baghdad’s largest defeat against the extremist group.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160107/1032807113/us-iraq-hellfire-missiles.html#ixzz3waDqqQe2

An American Hellfire missile has found its way to Cuba. The US are desperate to get it back.



https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/https/russian.rt.com/article/140861

The US have pressured the Finns to extradite yet another Russian citizen accused of hacking / theft.

https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201601081422-bt26.htm

It would be nice if the Cubans kept the Hellfire long enough for the Russians to have a good look at it.

Russians won't learning anythin from it better give it to some country that needs technologies like Iran, North Korea, Syria, Kazakhstan or others.

Werewolf wrote:Russians won't learning anythin from it better give it to some country that needs technologies like Iran, North Korea, Syria, Kazakhstan or others.

Exactly. These hellfire are nothing special for Russia. But definitely North Korea or Iran can make good use of it.

As well, why are Russians still traveling to other countries?  They should know by now it isn't safe for them.  If I lived in Russia, I would be taking advantage of the travel options (due to prices) of regions like Crimea or Sochi or Sukhumi

sepheronx wrote:Exactly.  These hellfire are nothing special for Russia.  But definitely North Korea or Iran can make good use of it.

Depends on the version actually. They'd definitely love to have a look at the lima and romeo, for sure.
Of course the latter is not operational yet. But AGM-114L has very solid tech behind it.

KiloGolf wrote:

sepheronx wrote:Exactly.  These hellfire are nothing special for Russia.  But definitely North Korea or Iran can make good use of it.

Depends on the version actually. They'd definitely love to have a look at the lima and romeo, for sure.
Of course the latter is not operational yet. But AGM-114L has very solid tech behind it.

Such as? There isn't anything to learn.

sepheronx wrote:

KiloGolf wrote:

sepheronx wrote:Exactly.  These hellfire are nothing special for Russia.  But definitely North Korea or Iran can make good use of it.

Depends on the version actually. They'd definitely love to have a look at the lima and romeo, for sure.
Of course the latter is not operational yet. But AGM-114L has very solid tech behind it.

Such as?  There isn't anything to learn.

He means MMW radar guidance and you are right russia has this technology already called Khrizantema, it has both LBR and MMW guidance channels.

Werewolf wrote:

sepheronx wrote:

KiloGolf wrote:

sepheronx wrote:Exactly.  These hellfire are nothing special for Russia.  But definitely North Korea or Iran can make good use of it.

Depends on the version actually. They'd definitely love to have a look at the lima and romeo, for sure.
Of course the latter is not operational yet. But AGM-114L has very solid tech behind it.

Such as?  There isn't anything to learn.

He means MMW radar guidance and you are right russia has this technology already called Khrizantema, it has both LBR and MMW guidance channels.

Still does not mean there is no place for possible improvements that could come with examination of L/R Hellfires. Albania had technology to build assault rifles for an example, however they were never even remotely comparable in any characteristic to Yugo variants, coz they simply were bad at heat threatment and base tooling.

This could for an example bring some nice insight in for an example components minimisation, soldering materials... list is endless, small things do count. Russians might have solved some stuff better, but for sure US solved some better too, it does not hurt to peek and pick thing or two.

Militarov wrote:Still does not mean there is no place for possible improvements that could come with examination of L/R Hellfires. Albania had technology to build assault rifles for an example, however they were never even remotely comparable in any characteristic to Yugo variants, coz they simply were bad at heat threatment and base tooling.

This could for an example bring some nice insight in for an example components minimisation, soldering materials... list is endless, small things do count. Russians might have solved some stuff better, but for sure US solved some better too, it does not hurt to peek and pick thing or two.

True, but the only fields where russians could use anything from that is software to have detailed insight in the algorythm of the missile, its guidance solution and seekers capabilities and limitations to provide better countermeasure for ground based anti PGM weapon use like the BTR and Tigr versions russia operates since decades which Mindstorm has posted before.

The rest about the missile are contra russian philosophy of ATGM guidance, useage and weapon itself to fight with enemy forces. They are just not really compatible with russias doctrine like russian ATGM's are not really useful for US doctrine and how they implement it, they would be useful for AH-1's for sure, but very limited due to approach and doctrine to execute missions and technologies.

Iraqi Mi-35M helicopter after an emergency landing

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1676488.html

Mi-35M chopper flying over Iraq's forces during the ops west of Samarra.

George1 wrote:Mi-35M chopper flying over Iraq's forces during the ops west of Samarra.

And another

This is a small question to our experts here.

There is a discussion over whether iraq Operated the tochka missile in the past. And this picture has emerged of a Republic a guard tochka launcher....
http://iraqimilitary.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=50&start=30

Can the experts verify that this is a tochka launcher in Iraq and not a romb transloader. (see the angled in roof).

I can't claim to be an expert, but it sure looks to me very similar if not identical to the 9P129. I'm reading that the Tochka was first  exported (and quite widely) in the 1980s, so it is entirely plausible Iraq received a number of them before 1991, maybe even after (clandestinely). Perhaps looking through the SIPRI files would give an idea, i have some printed stuff to have a look at when i get to it.

Meanwhile, some reference material on these and associated BAZ models.
http://www.gruzovikpress.ru/article/1071-sozdanie-korpusnyh-spetsialnyh-kolesnyh-shassi-sksh-dlya-raketnyh-kompleksov-nujny-li-rossii-sobstvennye-korpusnye-sksh/

thing is in the 1980s iraqis had their own "domestic" program for the same sorts of rocket (laith 90, ababel 100, al samoud, raad)... it has never been noted in service in iraq by anyone, never been paraded...

it seems that this could have been a small "evaluation" purchase by iraqis... but that seems to have gotten as far as joining an operational unit.

i will paste the pics over here.


this really does look like a BAZ-5921... so not for the ROMB SAM system. confirming that Iraq had Tochka SSMs in the past!?

so it seems this launcher and missiles were obtained by iraq from yemen in the 1990s and helped to develop iraq's domestic short range al samoud missiles.

http://www.dod.gov/pubs/foi/Reading_Room/Science_and_Technology/07-F-2234_Iraq_Technology_Transfer_List_Draft_06-06-2003.pdf

sheytanelkebir wrote:This is a small question to our experts here.

There is a discussion over whether iraq Operated the tochka missile in the past. And this picture has emerged of a Republic a guard tochka launcher....
http://iraqimilitary.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=50&start=30

Can the experts verify that this is a tochka launcher in Iraq and not a romb transloader. (see the angled in roof).

It's tochka and probably one of the Soviet largesses to PDRY

Lots of these things went under the radar during the Soviet retreat from the PDRY.

Edit: I just saw your last post...repost then.

Iraq has received all ordered 15x Mi-28NE helicopters



http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1989656.html

Western instructors teach Iraqi military to shoot from Iranian and Russian sniper rifles

Of course not unusual, given that Iran and our rifle is now probably one of the most common in the Iraqi military, but it still looks pretty funny.



















http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2002189.html

The parade in Baghdad in honor of the Day of the Republic July 14

Recall that on July 14, 1958 troops under General Abd al-Karim Qasim and Colonel Abdul Salam Aref took control of Baghdad. The royal family of the genus Hashemite led by the young King Faisal II was executed by military rebels at the walls of the Royal Palace. Thus in Iraq the monarchy was overthrown and proclaimed a republic.

The parade, which took place today in Baghdad attended by Iraqi army divisions, the federal police and the various units of the national militia forces.


TOS-1A "Solntsepyok" wheeling front of the podium with the Prime Minister of Iraq


M1117 Guardian ASV


BTR-94


BMP-1


M1A1M Abrams


155mm M198


Is this a heavy heavy Mortar???


MRLS



























http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2020569.html

The Iraqi army is far more competent than SAA. Much better equipped. SAA has no modern gear and Russia refuses to supply any. Not even 1980s artillery.

Better equipped yes but not a lot of heavy equipment, less than 200 tanks whilst the Syrian army started with 5000 or so.