The Situation in the Ukraine. #20

Empire strikes back.

"Oldest member of Romanov Family ready to leave Denmark for Crimea"

http://tass.ru/en/non-political/816446

ukrops have been attacking Belaya Kamenka again, and according to Gennady Dubavoy but not reported anywhere else that I can see, an area by Telmanovo is hit by Urugan.

Elenovka resident reports they are under bombardment.

Normandy Four agrees ceasefire by September 1. Big fat chance for that

yawn can't wait for October when the scheduled local elections break down then the fireworks start hold on to your popcorns ladies and gents

They sound like a bunch of civil servants with no input from the real world. My highlight, but not Kiev?

MINSK, August 26. /TASS/. The participants of the Contact Group on settlement of the situation in Donbass have agreed to cease fire by September 1, Ambassador Martin Sajdik, the Special Representative of the OSCE Chairperson-in-Office in Ukraine and in the Trilateral Contact Group on the implementation of the peace plan in the east of Ukraine, said Wednesday after the meeting. Sajdik said it is necessary to do everything possible to ensure security of schools on the disengagement line between east Ukrainian militiamen and Ukraine's troops.

Plenipotentiary representative of the self-proclaimed Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR) Vladislav Deinego confirmed Wednesday after talks in Minsk that all participants of the Contact Group expressed the intention to achieve cessation of fire in Donbass by September 1. "The proposal received a response from all sides, and there is hope that shelling will be stopped from September 1," Deinego said.

In turn, plenipotentiary representative of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) Denis Pushilin stressed that "after the meeting in Berlin [of German Chancellor Angela Merkel, French and Ukrainian presidents Francois Hollande and Pyotr Poroshenko on August 24] we expected more". "Currently there is progress in the negotiating process, many constructive thoughts and proposals have been voiced. We have the hope that it will be put in writing. On the whole, I would like to say that there is progress and continuation of the working progress on all subgroups," Pushilin said. "As regards specific things, a rather balanced proposal to completely stop shelling by September 1 has been voiced. It won the support from nearly all parties," he said.

JohninMK wrote:They sound like a bunch of civil servants with no input from the real world. My highlight, but not Kiev?

MINSK, August 26. /TASS/. The participants of the Contact Group on settlement of the situation in Donbass have agreed to cease fire by September 1, Ambassador Martin Sajdik, the Special Representative of the OSCE Chairperson-in-Office in Ukraine and in the Trilateral Contact Group on the implementation of the peace plan in the east of Ukraine, said Wednesday after the meeting. Sajdik said it is necessary to do everything possible to ensure security of schools on the disengagement line between east Ukrainian militiamen and Ukraine's troops.

Plenipotentiary representative of the self-proclaimed Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR) Vladislav Deinego confirmed Wednesday after talks in Minsk that all participants of the Contact Group expressed the intention to achieve cessation of fire in Donbass by September 1. "The proposal received a response from all sides, and there is hope that shelling will be stopped from September 1," Deinego said.

In turn, plenipotentiary representative of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) Denis Pushilin stressed that "after the meeting in Berlin [of German Chancellor Angela Merkel, French and Ukrainian presidents Francois Hollande and Pyotr Poroshenko on August 24] we expected more". "Currently there is progress in the negotiating process, many constructive thoughts and proposals have been voiced. We have the hope that it will be put in writing. On the whole, I would like to say that there is progress and continuation of the working progress on all subgroups," Pushilin said. "As regards specific things, a rather balanced proposal to completely stop shelling by September 1 has been voiced. It won the support from nearly all parties," he said.

We do know Zackarchenko will never carry out Ukraine's scheduled local elections in October. That would put Kiev appointed mayors in Donetsk and return Donetsk to Kiev rule. Therefore Minsk 2 dies in October. Nothing will save Minsk 2 from finishing in October. Hold on to your your popcorns for fireworks ladies and gents.

Cowboy's daughter wrote:
Russia, Europe agree on developing ExoMars project
Non-political
August 26, 16:18 UTC+3
Certain political tension exists today between Russia, Europe and America over the Ukraine events and the ESA considers it important to develop and strengthen cooperation in the space sphere

http://tass.ru/en/non-political/816654

ZHUKOVSKY /Moscow Region/, August 26. /TASS/. Russia’s Federal Space Corporation (Roscosmos) and the European Space Agency (ESA) have signed an agreement on further developing the ExoMars project, Roscosmos spokesman Igor Burenkov said on Wednesday.

This is not good will, this is cold, hard financing and technical capacity considerations. While the NATO media denigrates and smears
Russia day in and day out, the reality is that Russia is quite advanced in many high tech fields and has the economies of scale to
carry out big projects reflecting the highly developed state of its industries.

http://freepublish.ru/novosti/pobit-rekord-yushhenko/

Let's see the rating

Porkie: like 3%, somewhat like 21%, dislike 34%
Asswenuts: like 0%, somewhat like 10%, somewhat dislike 52%, dislike 32%

I figured the change, or should I say evolution, of OSCE reports a couple weeks ago would not last. After The Boss showed up last week it's back to the same old same old only worse if possible, now reports of 'drunk' NAF troops giving those worthies a hard time and the orcs are all innocent angels etc etc etc.

Don't know what will happen anytime soon but as is known, so far the orcs have not attacked in force, just the constant probes, blooding of new arrivals and the ceaseless bombardments. No matter what happens DoS made it very clear Tuesday that it's up to Russia to stop this mess and if they don't there will be 'consequences'. That means when the orcs do attack we'll get more and stronger sanctions for NAF defending themselves.

sepheronx wrote: I wonder how long it will take before some citizen in NAF territory decides to take it upon himself and cause grave harm to an OSCE member?  Cause I myself hate them a lot now, and I am not even there in the situation.

I think it's only a matter of time and may well be caused when the locals catch another OSCE operative planting an artillery targeting device. They've been caught at that little ploy more than once but so far have escaped retribution. I think those times are over.

Basically leader of Ukrainian Motor Sich and (probably) some personnels of Antonov came to MAKS Airshow in Russia.

http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150826/1026225719/russia-ukraine-maks-manufacturers-aerospace-helicopters.html

Dunno whether the Kyiv goverment considers it as treachery ?

UAF moving BUK systems towards the contact line.

Novorossiya spirit via Poland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS1K9SlGUU8#t=25

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The final report on last year's Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crash will be published on October 13, the Dutch Safety Board said in a statement Thursday.

"The Dutch Safety Board has today informed the relatives and accredited representatives in the investigation, that the Board will publish the final report on the investigation of flight MH17 on October 13," the statement reads.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150827/1026257493.html#ixzz3k0sIRW1A

Well, the got their haircut but not as much as they wanted.

KIEV, August 27. /TASS/. Ukraine has agreed with creditors on writing off $3.8 billion out of its $19.3 billion debt, Ukrainian Finance Minister Natalia Yaresko said ahead of a government meeting on Thursday. "It was decided to reschedule the repayment of the remaining $15.5 billion to 2019," she said.

Ukraine had taken efforts since March 2015 to agree with creditors on the restructuring of payments under its Eurobonds worth $20 billion. The media reported early this week that the Ukrainian government and the creditors’ committee had agreed on writing off 20% of the Eurobonds’ value.

Initially, the Ukrainian side insisted on writing off twice as much, i.e. 40% of its debt. A 20% debt write-off means that Ukraine will save $3 billion on debt repayment. If the Ukrainian government had not agreed with the creditors, Kiev could have imposed a moratorium in September on debt repayment. Kiev will have to repay Eurobonds worth $500 million already on September 23. This would have automatically worsened the prospects for Ukraine to repay its $3 billion debt to Russia in December. Russia has said on many occasions that Ukraine should redeem its $3 billion Eurobond on schedule.

Under an agreement with the International Monetary Fund (IMF), Kiev needs to save more than $15 billion over four years, including $5.2 billion this year. Ukraine, which had been holding negotiations with foreign private creditors on restructuring bonds worth about $20 billion at their face value, warned on many occasions it might impose a moratorium on foreign debt repayment, if creditors failed to agree to restructuring, including a principal debt write-off.

In turn, creditors insisted that Ukraine would be able to comply with the debt burden parameters agreed with the IMF without the principal debt write-off and offered only a 10-year debt payment postponement. Ukraine’s total state and state-guaranteed debt amounts to $70 billion today.


Meanwhile in Moscow

MOSCOW, August 27. /TASS/. Russia’s Finance Ministry has not received any official proposal from Ukraine on its debt restructuring, Russian Deputy Finance Minister Sergey Storchak said on Thursday. "The Finance Ministry of Russia has not received any official proposal from Ukraine on debt restructuring. The Russian leadership has said on many occasions that Russia is not participating in this debt operation," Storchak said.

Bloomberg news agency reported earlier on Thursday with reference to Ukrainian Finance Minister Jaresko that Ukraine had offered Russia to agree to a 20% write-down to the face value of its $3 billion loan. Jaresko also said Kiev had reached an agreement with creditors on writing down 20% of Ukraine's state foreign debt.

Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov said in comments on Bloomberg’s report that Russia was not planning to take part in Kiev’s debt restructuring program. Russia has held a tough position on the possibility of easing the debt repayment terms for Ukraine, consistently refusing to take part in negotiations and debt restructuring programs offered by Kiev. Ukraine transferred $75 million to Russia in late June in coupon payment for its $3 billion Eurobond on time.

The Ukrainian financial authorities have said on many occasions they consider Russia’s $3 billion loan as a commercial debt and insist on its restructuring. Meanwhile, Russia insists the loan is a state debt and demands its full redemption.

''Polish Media Coverage of Events in Ukraine Drives Man to Blow Up His Home''

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150827/1026255645/poland-russia-invasion-explosion.html



''Half of Conscripts Dodge Draft From Ukrainian Defense Ministry''

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150827/1026253071.html

JohninMK wrote:MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The final report on last year's Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crash will be published on October 13, the Dutch Safety Board said in a statement Thursday.

"The Dutch Safety Board has today informed the relatives and accredited representatives in the investigation, that the Board will publish the final report on the investigation of flight MH17 on October 13," the statement reads.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150827/1026257493.html#ixzz3k0sIRW1A

I wonder if after that, the Dutch will let others peer review the evidence?

Cockpit recordings, ATC radio/radar, forensic examination of the wreckage and corpses etc. If they don't let others check their work then that will harm the credibility of the report in some circles. There is already a lot of doubt about the neutrality, bought about by the choice of parties involved in the investigation, and the extraordinary level of secrecy and non-disclosure agreements.

auslander wrote:I figured the change, or should I say evolution, of OSCE reports a couple weeks ago would not last. After The Boss showed up last week it's back to the same old same old only worse if possible, now reports of 'drunk' NAF troops giving those worthies a hard time and the orcs are all innocent angels etc etc etc.

Don't know what will happen anytime soon but as is known, so far the orcs have not attacked in force, just the constant probes, blooding of new arrivals and the ceaseless bombardments. No matter what happens DoS made it very clear Tuesday that it's up to Russia to stop this mess and if they don't there will be 'consequences'. That means when the orcs do attack we'll get more and stronger sanctions for NAF defending themselves.

Officially it's been Russia's ''fault'' all this time but unfortunately for ukrops, sanctions do not raise the dead otherwise, UAF would have had at least ten legions of zombies by now...

Zakharchenko has re-stated that there will be no Minsk-3, that it really is not possible to negotiate with Kiev junta, that minimum objective is to liberate Slavyansk and Mariupol, and when that happens we have to see if there will be a "Greater Novorossiya". Asked if it would even be possible to take from Kharkov to Tiraspol and would he need help, he states that it will not be necessary to sit with folded arms and wait, and that Ukranian people will take matters into their own hands. Well, he said all this before of course, but he keeps saying it and does not deviate from the purpose and I believe he says it not simply to troll Kiev, but because he knows that at the very least all the occupied land will be liberated, and that in the near future there will be more progress to liberate all of Ukraine.

Apparently now ukraine is begging gazprom for winter's supply after all european suppliers have refused. This is a golden oppurtunity for russia  to finally enforce it's conditions(denazification, federalization) on kiev or no deal. I wonder why they didn't force kiev in last winter. Whoever decided to give kiev gas unconditionally is a traitor to the east slavic nationality.

uaf massively shelling dpr

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/08/breaking-uaf-massively-shelling-dpr.htmlI truly hope this is the real prelude to the much awaited junta attack. Then ukraine will finally be liberated from neoliberal puppets.


However I do believe the current stale mate contrary to what most of you are thinking is actually a blessing in disguise for the kiev junta, and negatively affects novorossiya .

Here is why:

No matter how bad the economy is, the mere existence of the dpr-lpr gives the junta a justification on blaming it on them(donbass) and russia, thus keeping the junta legitimate.

Even though an outright assault will be fatal for the UAF, they can still shell as much as they please with zero international repercussions(besides the useless retardedly repeated "all sides must abide to M2A" announcement"). This can keep the donbass in constant terror and cause dissent against the rebel government for inaction, and an intact UAF can be used to brutally repress evevry single threat of rebellion form the frightened populace, thus also keeping the junta in power.

The donbass can't attack first without complete international repercussions, so this keeps them effectively contained, allowing the imperial puppetmaster to still privatise and exploit much of ukraine's resources, and giving the puppet government enough breathing room.


In conclusion russia and the donbass desperately need more action in the arena and keeping the status quo almost completely benefits the western empire.

Karl Haushofer wrote:Finnish mainstream media claims that Russian military has lost over 2,000 soldiers in Ukraine so far.

They claim that a Russian site BS-life.ru “accidently” published the figure online until it was taken away from their website.

Finnish russophobes are having a field day with this news in comment section. They are also rejoicing about the arrest of Senakh (a Russian citizen who was arrested on this week in Finland by the request of the United States).

Russia should kill off all trade with hostile nations like Finland, I don't know why it does not do that(well selling gas may have a thing to do with it).