The Situation in the Ukraine. #22

sepheronx wrote:

And what would they gain out of demonizing him? It seems pretty well granulated he is a Pro Russian. This would cause much protest in Russia and the Authorities are well aware that their population isnt stupid.

auslander wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:[quote="auslander Looking forward to hearing how Kiev is, word on the street is that people are getting more and more fed up as the ATO has largely grinded to a halt, people still waiting for the promises of wealth for almost two years now, and winter is about to descend upon them. Overall, the situation is very relatable to a pressure cooker left unattended.

I'm having a lot of trouble posting regularly, but I am still monitoring the development over in 404 and this thread.

I'm sitting in Florida of the moment, been here the whole time mostly. I will meet with someone who has been in 404 for a while and quite recently. We should have an interesting chat and I'll pass on what I can.

Khepesh wrote:

sepheronx wrote:

And what would they gain out of demonizing him? It seems pretty well granulated he is a Pro Russian. This would cause much protest in Russia and the Authorities are well aware that their population isnt stupid.

Difficult question. Who tried to assasinate him last year? nobody knows. Why was he arrested with a group of others in Donetsk in early January this year? nobody knows. Nobody knows about Ishchenko, Bednov, Mozgovoi or exactly why Purgin was purged. Nobody knows anything and those who should know something say nothing. The people are not stupid, but the people have no power and do not control the news, or even the non news of what we are not meant to know. Cynical perhaps, but while there are unexplained deaths....

JohninMK wrote:Begging bowl out in Kiev again. My highlight

Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatseniuk has asked the European Commission to help with forming the payroll fund for government employees in Ukraine.

"The reformation of the system of payment for work and the help of our European partners, which I have already requested from the European commission, is to form the fund for an increase in government employees' salaries. This is being done so that we've got real professionals, those who are aware of what they are doing and those who are able to carry out respective reforms in the system," Yatseniuk said at a cabinet meeting on Wednesday.

Corruption won't be rooted out if salaries haven't been doubled, he said.

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http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/economic/301584.html

A Ukrainian nationalist planned a terror attack on the Russian embassy in London after becoming “radicalised” by the tensions in eastern Europe, a court heard.

Vadim Bezkorovainiy, 35, is said to have carried out three reconnaissance missions to the embassy from his home in Luton, Bedfordshire, during a three-day period in March 2014 – one of several indications he was plotting violence against the embassy or its ambassador, prosecutors said.

His trial at the Old Bailey heard how the father-of-two had allegedly become radicalised having briefly left the UK to return to Ukraine at a time when political and diplomatic conflict involving Russia and the Ukraine escalated.

It was only when police raided Bezkorovainiy’s home on suspicion of using false identification documents that detectives discovered images and video files suggesting he was plotting a terror attack.

Handwritten notes were also recovered, which prosecutors said were a rough draft of a press release or speech to be issued after the attack. He denies engaging in conduct in preparation for giving effect to an intention to commit acts of terrorism.

Robin Sellars, for the prosecution, said: “This case involves what the Crown say  was a deliberate and definitive course of action by this defendant in preparation of an act or acts of terrorism.

“You will hear that he carried out protracted research on the internet into the manufacture of detonators and explosives of varying strengths and effectiveness. That was all with a political target in mind – to promote his political motive and ends at the time.”

The court heard that notes recovered from his home in Old Bedford Road on 15 March last year included the phrase: “Being under the constant cover and surveillance by Scotland Yard, the Russian embassy in London did not manage to avoid destruction… Security ended up powerless. Now one [sic] can imagine what will happen to Moscow, St Petersburg, the regional centres, if we redeploy fighters who are simply going to smash everything around them.”

A laptop seized from Bezkorovainiy’s home contained details of internet searches for explosives and flame throwers, while a memory card showed images of the embassy buildings, the court heard.

Mr Sellars said the defendant returned to Ukraine from the UK between September 2012 and January 2013. He told the court: “This is of significance as the Crown alleges that in effect his exposure to the tensions in that region first-hand had the effect of radicalising Mr Bezkorovainiy to the extent that he decided to take matters into his own hands once back in the UK.”

The prosecution said there was further evidence of Bezkorovainiy’s alleged radicalisation in the days before his arrest, when he was overheard talking to his nine-year-old daughter about using guns, setting the neighbour’s garden on fire, and bomb-making.

Mr Sellars said: “The Crown say everything is moving towards one ultimate conclusion – this is someone exhibiting radicalised behaviour.”

The trial, which continues, is being held before His Honour Judge Tim Pontius.

Is it possible that these are part of early moves to eventually re-integrate Donbas with Russia? wrote:

higurashihougi wrote:

Cowboy's daughter wrote:Kravchuk calls for rejection of western overlordship and rejection of Minsk II


http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/11/kravchuk-calls-for-rejection-of-western.html

His speech sounds crazy, but if we think about it, it perfectly describes the pathetic situation of current Kyiv goverment. Porkie and his subordinates are just puppets of the West, even if they want to attack Donbass they also need the agreement of the West.

If the West desires peace and dialouge with Russia, then Porkie cannot ignore Minsk, Porkie cannot attack Donbass without the permission of Western masters.

That's it. Kyiv regime is no independent goverment, it is the servant of the West. Servant cannot do much without the masters.