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    Syrian Civil War: News #3

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    Post  Vann7 Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:18 am

    JohninMK wrote:
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    Militarov wrote:U.S. Central Command War room, seems they are atm overseeing Syrian/Iraq deployment.

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    Russia also has it's own war command room, how is it compared to the American one?

    https://www.rt.com/news/210307-russia-national-defence-center/

    From the photos, the main one in Moscow seems to be smaller than this 'local' one in Quatar. Something about US money to burn, sorry I meant print.

    actually the one posted by the link of Russia is not the only room Russia have. US can have all
    the money in the world but money can't buy quality and performance.Something Russia have
    shown to have.. yet Americans fails to do. and about the room. the ones Americans using looks
    anything but "expensive". it looks like a normal room with a bunch of cheap LCD monitors
    together ,poor illumination and some big screen cheap projectors.  The Russian Centers is way more well elaborated and advanced than the american ones.    Smile



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    yeah so "small" lol1

    it even have several floors height ,and all of them can see the same screens , but also
    each floor equipped each seat with their own displays too. IT seems US just took a warehouse and turned it into a command center ,while Russia designed a state of the art building ,for Command center operations with no comparable
    in the world. I bet the Russian displays not only bigger but fully modern and customizable too.
    can turn the entire screen in giant screen.. or divide it in sections and have many screens with pictures from around the world just with the touch of computer button. even the chairs are better in the Russian center.  Smile


    Just look at the building.. a real wonder structure.

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    For Sure it was made as a fortress and have bunkers underground..  The transportation
    system is also well thought , it is close to water canals so they can arrive there or leave
    by boat.    pirat  

    For sure the whole building is also connected to the underground Moscow powerful railway system too.  with their own private trains to arrive to the command center.

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    Post  Kyo Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:08 pm

    http://m.sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151025/1029078223/syrian-army-kills-jabhat-nusra-member.html
    Egyptian-born AND Turkish citizen Ali al-Turki, aka Muhajir.


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    Post  Guest Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:09 pm

    Soldier executed by ISIS Tank was identified as Syrian army soldier Fadi Ammar Zidan from Tartus. Kinda felt it would be nice to mention him as we already saw how brutally his life ended, looks very young to me.

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    Post  Kyo Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:28 pm

    Militarov wrote:Soldier executed by ISIS Tank was identified as Syrian army soldier Fadi Ammar Zidan from Tartus. Kinda felt it would be nice to mention him as we already saw how brutally his life ended, looks very young to me.

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    He was 19, alawite. After being ground-razed, he was run over by a tank.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:01 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    par far wrote:
    Militarov wrote:U.S. Central Command War room, seems they are atm overseeing Syrian/Iraq deployment.

    ]

    Russia also has it's own war command room, how is it compared to the American one?

    From the photos, the main one in Moscow seems to be smaller than this 'local' one in Quatar. Something about US money to burn, sorry I meant print.

    actually the one posted by the link of Russia is not the only room Russia have. US can have all
    the money in the world but money can't buy quality and performance.Something Russia have
    shown to have.. yet Americans fails to do. and about the room. the ones Americans using looks
    anything but "expensive". it looks like a normal room with a bunch of cheap LCD monitors
    together ,poor illumination and some big screen cheap projectors.  The Russian Centers is way more well elaborated and advanced than the american ones.    Smile


    yeah so "small" lol1

    it even have several floors height ,and all of them can see the same screens , but also
    each floor equipped each seat with their own displays too. IT seems US just took a warehouse and turned it into a command center ,while Russia designed a state of the art building ,for Command center operations with no comparable
    in the world. I bet the Russian displays not only bigger but fully modern and customizable too.
    can turn the entire screen in giant screen.. or divide it in sections and have many screens with pictures from around the world just with the touch of computer button. even the chairs are better in the Russian center.  Smile

    Just look at the building.. a real wonder structure.

    For Sure it was made as a fortress and have bunkers underground..  The transportation
    system is also well thought , it is close to water canals so they can arrive there or leave
    by boat.    pirat  

    For sure the whole building is also connected to the underground Moscow powerful railway system too.  with their own private trains to arrive to the command center.

    We are not comparing like with like. The photos of the Moscow centre are just that, the main control room with seating for all branches of Government, you can see Putin etc there. It should be compared with those in Washington perhaps. The US Qatar one is a functional regional command centre, military only so no need for any flashy screens etc, just desks and PCs to operate all the aspects of warfare. The similar Russian one we have seen in the same MoD building (albeit control of all military assets not just one region) was smaller and much flasher, meaning that there are almost certainly specialist control rooms (staffed with oiks like the US one) feeding it.
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    Post  Solncepek Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:15 pm

    Abo Omar Tow - No.1 Tow Shooter in Falcons of al-Ghab (Suqur al-Ghab) Group is killed by SAA in Al-Mansoura
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:19 pm

    Solncepek wrote:Abo Omar Tow - No.1 Tow Shooter in Falcons of al-Ghab (Suqur al-Ghab) Group is killed by SAA in Al-Mansoura

    Care to post a fu*king link already?
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:32 pm

    Rolling Eyes After the carnage with the captured tankist Syria should ask Russia to scramble several dozen Tu-22Ms and carpet bomb Raqqa to ashes... that machine can carry 60x FAB-250, good luck for them to enjoy the Blitz.

    My idea - two waves of attack. The first one would be made of 20-30 Tu-22Ms carrying regular FAB-250 bombs. Then after about 20 minutes another formation would bomb the area with ZAB-250 incendiary bombs. In total 3600 bombs would be dropped.
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    Post  Guest Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:40 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Rolling Eyes After the carnage with the captured tankist Syria should ask Russia to scramble several dozen Tu-22Ms and carpet bomb Raqqa to ashes... that machine can carry 60x FAB-250, good luck for them to enjoy the Blitz.

    My idea - two waves of attack. The first one would be made of 20-30 Tu-22Ms carrying regular FAB-250 bombs. Then after about 20 minutes another formation would bomb the area with ZAB-250 incendiary bombs. In total 3600 bombs would be dropped.

    Several dozen? Thats like half of active inventory of RuaF. Where would they land and operate from in Syria Smile? And who da hell is going to pay for that Very Happy TU22M is one expencive mofo to fly.
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    Post  Kyo Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:44 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Rolling Eyes After the carnage with the captured tankist Syria should ask Russia to scramble several dozen Tu-22Ms and carpet bomb Raqqa to ashes... that machine can carry 60x FAB-250, good luck for them to enjoy the Blitz.

    My idea - two waves of attack. The first one would be made of 20-30 Tu-22Ms carrying regular FAB-250 bombs. Then after about 20 minutes another formation would bomb the area with ZAB-250 incendiary bombs. In total 3600 bombs would be dropped.
    Bloody contortionist skills you've shown up here, Walther. How about collaterals, such as civilian casualties, huh?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:49 pm

    Kyo wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Rolling Eyes After the carnage with the captured tankist Syria should ask Russia to scramble several dozen Tu-22Ms and carpet bomb Raqqa to ashes... that machine can carry 60x FAB-250, good luck for them to enjoy the Blitz.

    My idea - two waves of attack. The first one would be made of 20-30 Tu-22Ms carrying regular FAB-250 bombs. Then after about 20 minutes another formation would bomb the area with ZAB-250 incendiary bombs. In total 3600 bombs would be dropped.
    Bloody contortionist skills you've shown up here, Walther. How about collaterals, such as civilian casualties, huh?
    You think that Kurds "liberating" Raqqah, will cause less carnage ?
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    Post  Kyo Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:54 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Kyo wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Rolling Eyes After the carnage with the captured tankist Syria should ask Russia to scramble several dozen Tu-22Ms and carpet bomb Raqqa to ashes... that machine can carry 60x FAB-250, good luck for them to enjoy the Blitz.

    My idea - two waves of attack. The first one would be made of 20-30 Tu-22Ms carrying regular FAB-250 bombs. Then after about 20 minutes another formation would bomb the area with ZAB-250 incendiary bombs. In total 3600 bombs would be dropped.
    Bloody contortionist skills you've shown up here, Walther. How about collaterals, such as civilian casualties, huh?
    You think that Kurds "liberating" Raqqah, will cause less carnage ?
    Frankly speaking, not really.
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    Post  par far Sun Oct 25, 2015 3:16 pm

    Don't know how reliable this is, if it is true, then Russia should start supporting the Houthis in Yemen.

    https://twitter.com/Malcolmite/status/658039807134838784


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    Post  Guest Sun Oct 25, 2015 3:25 pm

    par far wrote:Don't know how reliable this is, if it is true, then Russia should start supporting the Houthis in Yemen.

    https://twitter.com/Malcolmite/status/658039807134838784



    Like 2 weeks ago they got 750 missiles from Saudis.
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    Post  Kimppis Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:52 pm

    par far wrote:Don't know how reliable this is, if it is true, then Russia should start supporting the Houthis in Yemen.

    https://twitter.com/Malcolmite/status/658039807134838784



    That Twitter account gave me cancer... No What an idiot. He's really not getting that many retweets or likes though. They're losing the information war 10-0, it must hurt.
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    Post  ultron Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:36 pm

    a good read

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/syrian-daily-life-amid-war-a-jumble-of-strange-contrasts-1.3272123
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    Post  ultron Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:39 pm

    Assad needs to stop down. For the sake of Syria. Or else he will end up like Hitler. Dead. FSA and SAA, they are all Syrians. Everyone must work together to beat jihadists. Do not be greedy. Step down and transition power. For Syria. For the Syrian people.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:42 pm

    Kimppis wrote:
    par far wrote:Don't know how reliable this is, if it is true, then Russia should start supporting the Houthis in Yemen.

    https://twitter.com/Malcolmite/status/658039807134838784



    That Twitter account gave me cancer... No What an idiot. He's really not getting that many retweets or likes though. They're losing the information war 10-0, it must hurt.

    Tumaah.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:42 pm

    ultron wrote:Assad needs to stop down. For the sake of Syria. Or else he will end up like Hitler. Dead. FSA and SAA, they are all Syrians. Everyone must work together to beat jihadists. Do not be greedy. Step down and transition power. For Syria. For the Syrian people.

    Go suck a dick, please.
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    Post  NationalRus Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:44 pm

    ultron wrote:Assad needs to stop down. For the sake of Syria. Or else he will end up like Hitler. Dead. FSA and SAA, they are all Syrians. Everyone must work together to beat jihadists. Do not be greedy. Step down and transition power. For Syria. For the Syrian people.

    he cant, wont and shouldent step down for the sake of syria till another leader can be find to hold together the last goverment insitutions and all minority sects with moderates sunnis

    by god he needs to stay in the moment
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    Post  ultron Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:47 pm

    NationalRus wrote:
    ultron wrote:Assad needs to stop down. For the sake of Syria. Or else he will end up like Hitler. Dead. FSA and SAA, they are all Syrians. Everyone must work together to beat jihadists. Do not be greedy. Step down and transition power. For Syria. For the Syrian people.

    he cant, wont and shouldent step down for the sake of syria till another leader can be find to hold together the last goverment insitutions and all minority sects with moderates sunnis

    by god he needs to stay in the moment

    If he does not step down, then he will be killed. The US will send 10,000 TOWs to FSA and blow up every single Syrian tank and take Damascus. It's his life. It's his choice. Russia will not be able to save him by that point. Remember the saying, don't push your luck.


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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:49 pm

    ultron wrote:
    NationalRus wrote:
    ultron wrote:Assad needs to stop down. For the sake of Syria. Or else he will end up like Hitler. Dead. FSA and SAA, they are all Syrians. Everyone must work together to beat jihadists. Do not be greedy. Step down and transition power. For Syria. For the Syrian people.

    he cant, wont and shouldent step down for the sake of syria till another leader can be find to hold together the last goverment insitutions and all minority sects with moderates sunnis

    by god he needs to stay in the moment

    If he does not step down, then he will be killed. The US will send 10,000 TOWs to FSA and blow up every single Syrian tank and take Damascus. It's his life. It's his choice. Russia will not be able to save him by that point.

    Yeah because TOWs will win the war...
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    Post  ultron Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:51 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Yeah because TOWs will win the war...

    Russia will never give Arenas to SAA. Without Arenas, every Syrian tank will be destroyed by TOWs. Russia has stated Syria only needs to remain secular. Assad is expendable
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    Post  ultron Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:55 pm

    How many tanks does SAA have? Let's say 5,000. The US can easily give 100,000 TOWs to FSA and blow all of them up. Assad has no choice but to step down. A dictatorship is the wrong choice for Syria.

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