Syrian Civil War: News #3

JohninMK wrote:

par far wrote:

Militarov wrote:U.S. Central Command War room, seems they are atm overseeing Syrian/Iraq deployment.


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Russia also has it's own war command room, how is it compared to the American one?

https://www.rt.com/news/210307-russia-national-defence-center/

From the photos, the main one in Moscow seems to be smaller than this 'local' one in Quatar. Something about US money to burn, sorry I meant print.

actually the one posted by the link of Russia is not the only room Russia have. US can have all
the money in the world but money can't buy quality and performance.Something Russia have
shown to have.. yet Americans fails to do. and about the room. the ones Americans using looks
anything but "expensive". it looks like a normal room with a bunch of cheap LCD monitors
together ,poor illumination and some big screen cheap projectors.  The Russian Centers is way more well elaborated and advanced than the american ones.    






yeah so "small"

it even have several floors height ,and all of them can see the same screens , but also
each floor equipped each seat with their own displays too. IT seems US just took a warehouse and turned it into a command center ,while Russia designed a state of the art building ,for Command center operations with no comparable
in the world. I bet the Russian displays not only bigger but fully modern and customizable too.
can turn the entire screen in giant screen.. or divide it in sections and have many screens with pictures from around the world just with the touch of computer button. even the chairs are better in the Russian center. 


Just look at the building.. a real wonder structure.



For Sure it was made as a fortress and have bunkers underground..  The transportation
system is also well thought , it is close to water canals so they can arrive there or leave
by boat.      

For sure the whole building is also connected to the underground Moscow powerful railway system too.  with their own private trains to arrive to the command center.

http://m.sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151025/1029078223/syrian-army-kills-jabhat-nusra-member.html
Egyptian-born AND Turkish citizen Ali al-Turki, aka Muhajir.

Soldier executed by ISIS Tank was identified as Syrian army soldier Fadi Ammar Zidan from Tartus. Kinda felt it would be nice to mention him as we already saw how brutally his life ended, looks very young to me.

Militarov wrote:Soldier executed by ISIS Tank was identified as Syrian army soldier Fadi Ammar Zidan from Tartus. Kinda felt it would be nice to mention him as we already saw how brutally his life ended, looks very young to me.

He was 19, alawite. After being ground-razed, he was run over by a tank.

Vann7 wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

par far wrote:

Militarov wrote:U.S. Central Command War room, seems they are atm overseeing Syrian/Iraq deployment.

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Russia also has it's own war command room, how is it compared to the American one?

From the photos, the main one in Moscow seems to be smaller than this 'local' one in Quatar. Something about US money to burn, sorry I meant print.

actually the one posted by the link of Russia is not the only room Russia have. US can have all
the money in the world but money can't buy quality and performance.Something Russia have
shown to have.. yet Americans fails to do. and about the room. the ones Americans using looks
anything but "expensive". it looks like a normal room with a bunch of cheap LCD monitors
together ,poor illumination and some big screen cheap projectors.  The Russian Centers is way more well elaborated and advanced than the american ones.    


yeah so "small"

it even have several floors height ,and all of them can see the same screens , but also
each floor equipped each seat with their own displays too. IT seems US just took a warehouse and turned it into a command center ,while Russia designed a state of the art building ,for Command center operations with no comparable
in the world. I bet the Russian displays not only bigger but fully modern and customizable too.
can turn the entire screen in giant screen.. or divide it in sections and have many screens with pictures from around the world just with the touch of computer button. even the chairs are better in the Russian center. 

Just look at the building.. a real wonder structure.

For Sure it was made as a fortress and have bunkers underground..  The transportation
system is also well thought , it is close to water canals so they can arrive there or leave
by boat.      

For sure the whole building is also connected to the underground Moscow powerful railway system too.  with their own private trains to arrive to the command center.

We are not comparing like with like. The photos of the Moscow centre are just that, the main control room with seating for all branches of Government, you can see Putin etc there. It should be compared with those in Washington perhaps. The US Qatar one is a functional regional command centre, military only so no need for any flashy screens etc, just desks and PCs to operate all the aspects of warfare. The similar Russian one we have seen in the same MoD building (albeit control of all military assets not just one region) was smaller and much flasher, meaning that there are almost certainly specialist control rooms (staffed with oiks like the US one) feeding it.

Abo Omar Tow - No.1 Tow Shooter in Falcons of al-Ghab (Suqur al-Ghab) Group is killed by SAA in Al-Mansoura

Solncepek wrote:Abo Omar Tow - No.1 Tow Shooter in Falcons of al-Ghab (Suqur al-Ghab) Group is killed by SAA in Al-Mansoura

Care to post a fu*king link already?

After the carnage with the captured tankist Syria should ask Russia to scramble several dozen Tu-22Ms and carpet bomb Raqqa to ashes... that machine can carry 60x FAB-250, good luck for them to enjoy the Blitz.

My idea - two waves of attack. The first one would be made of 20-30 Tu-22Ms carrying regular FAB-250 bombs. Then after about 20 minutes another formation would bomb the area with ZAB-250 incendiary bombs. In total 3600 bombs would be dropped.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote: After the carnage with the captured tankist Syria should ask Russia to scramble several dozen Tu-22Ms and carpet bomb Raqqa to ashes... that machine can carry 60x FAB-250, good luck for them to enjoy the Blitz.

My idea - two waves of attack. The first one would be made of 20-30 Tu-22Ms carrying regular FAB-250 bombs. Then after about 20 minutes another formation would bomb the area with ZAB-250 incendiary bombs. In total 3600 bombs would be dropped.

Several dozen? Thats like half of active inventory of RuaF. Where would they land and operate from in Syria ? And who da hell is going to pay for that TU22M is one expencive mofo to fly.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote: After the carnage with the captured tankist Syria should ask Russia to scramble several dozen Tu-22Ms and carpet bomb Raqqa to ashes... that machine can carry 60x FAB-250, good luck for them to enjoy the Blitz.

My idea - two waves of attack. The first one would be made of 20-30 Tu-22Ms carrying regular FAB-250 bombs. Then after about 20 minutes another formation would bomb the area with ZAB-250 incendiary bombs. In total 3600 bombs would be dropped.

Bloody contortionist skills you've shown up here, Walther. How about collaterals, such as civilian casualties, huh?

Kyo wrote:

Walther von Oldenburg wrote: After the carnage with the captured tankist Syria should ask Russia to scramble several dozen Tu-22Ms and carpet bomb Raqqa to ashes... that machine can carry 60x FAB-250, good luck for them to enjoy the Blitz.

My idea - two waves of attack. The first one would be made of 20-30 Tu-22Ms carrying regular FAB-250 bombs. Then after about 20 minutes another formation would bomb the area with ZAB-250 incendiary bombs. In total 3600 bombs would be dropped.

Bloody contortionist skills you've shown up here, Walther. How about collaterals, such as civilian casualties, huh?

You think that Kurds "liberating" Raqqah, will cause less carnage ?

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Kyo wrote:

Walther von Oldenburg wrote: After the carnage with the captured tankist Syria should ask Russia to scramble several dozen Tu-22Ms and carpet bomb Raqqa to ashes... that machine can carry 60x FAB-250, good luck for them to enjoy the Blitz.

My idea - two waves of attack. The first one would be made of 20-30 Tu-22Ms carrying regular FAB-250 bombs. Then after about 20 minutes another formation would bomb the area with ZAB-250 incendiary bombs. In total 3600 bombs would be dropped.

Bloody contortionist skills you've shown up here, Walther. How about collaterals, such as civilian casualties, huh?

You think that Kurds "liberating" Raqqah, will cause less carnage ?

Frankly speaking, not really.

Don't know how reliable this is, if it is true, then Russia should start supporting the Houthis in Yemen.

https://twitter.com/Malcolmite/status/658039807134838784

par far wrote:Don't know how reliable this is, if it is true, then Russia should start supporting the Houthis in Yemen.

https://twitter.com/Malcolmite/status/658039807134838784

Like 2 weeks ago they got 750 missiles from Saudis.

par far wrote:Don't know how reliable this is, if it is true, then Russia should start supporting the Houthis in Yemen.

https://twitter.com/Malcolmite/status/658039807134838784

That Twitter account gave me cancer... What an idiot. He's really not getting that many retweets or likes though. They're losing the information war 10-0, it must hurt.

a good read

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/syrian-daily-life-amid-war-a-jumble-of-strange-contrasts-1.3272123

Assad needs to stop down. For the sake of Syria. Or else he will end up like Hitler. Dead. FSA and SAA, they are all Syrians. Everyone must work together to beat jihadists. Do not be greedy. Step down and transition power. For Syria. For the Syrian people.

Kimppis wrote:

par far wrote:Don't know how reliable this is, if it is true, then Russia should start supporting the Houthis in Yemen.

https://twitter.com/Malcolmite/status/658039807134838784

That Twitter account gave me cancer... What an idiot. He's really not getting that many retweets or likes though. They're losing the information war 10-0, it must hurt.

Tumaah.

ultron wrote:Assad needs to stop down. For the sake of Syria. Or else he will end up like Hitler. Dead. FSA and SAA, they are all Syrians. Everyone must work together to beat jihadists. Do not be greedy. Step down and transition power. For Syria. For the Syrian people.

Go suck a dick, please.

ultron wrote:Assad needs to stop down. For the sake of Syria. Or else he will end up like Hitler. Dead. FSA and SAA, they are all Syrians. Everyone must work together to beat jihadists. Do not be greedy. Step down and transition power. For Syria. For the Syrian people.

he cant, wont and shouldent step down for the sake of syria till another leader can be find to hold together the last goverment insitutions and all minority sects with moderates sunnis

by god he needs to stay in the moment

NationalRus wrote:

ultron wrote:Assad needs to stop down. For the sake of Syria. Or else he will end up like Hitler. Dead. FSA and SAA, they are all Syrians. Everyone must work together to beat jihadists. Do not be greedy. Step down and transition power. For Syria. For the Syrian people.

he cant, wont and shouldent step down for the sake of syria till another leader can be find to hold together the last goverment insitutions and all minority sects with moderates sunnis

by god he needs to stay in the moment

If he does not step down, then he will be killed. The US will send 10,000 TOWs to FSA and blow up every single Syrian tank and take Damascus. It's his life. It's his choice. Russia will not be able to save him by that point. Remember the saying, don't push your luck.

ultron wrote:

NationalRus wrote:

ultron wrote:Assad needs to stop down. For the sake of Syria. Or else he will end up like Hitler. Dead. FSA and SAA, they are all Syrians. Everyone must work together to beat jihadists. Do not be greedy. Step down and transition power. For Syria. For the Syrian people.

he cant, wont and shouldent step down for the sake of syria till another leader can be find to hold together the last goverment insitutions and all minority sects with moderates sunnis

by god he needs to stay in the moment

If he does not step down, then he will be killed. The US will send 10,000 TOWs to FSA and blow up every single Syrian tank and take Damascus. It's his life. It's his choice. Russia will not be able to save him by that point.

Yeah because TOWs will win the war...

KoTeMoRe wrote:Yeah because TOWs will win the war...

Russia will never give Arenas to SAA. Without Arenas, every Syrian tank will be destroyed by TOWs. Russia has stated Syria only needs to remain secular. Assad is expendable

How many tanks does SAA have? Let's say 5,000. The US can easily give 100,000 TOWs to FSA and blow all of them up. Assad has no choice but to step down. A dictatorship is the wrong choice for Syria.