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Any photos of ISIS convoys leaving Mosul for Syria yet?
Apparently it's happening.
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950726001477
Apparently it's happening.
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950726001477
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Syrian Civil War: News #10
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Erk wrote:Any photos of ISIS convoys leaving Mosul for Syria yet?
Apparently it's happening.
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950726001477
there it is..
https://www.facebook.com/NotoISIS/videos/1806954792874092/
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An estimated 3000 people on the move in 70 buses. This will put an interesting logistics load on where they end up.
Hassan Ridha @sayed_ridha 3h3 hours ago
Buses have entered al-Mu'adhamiyah and have begun evacuation of 800 local & Daraya militants + their families, they will be taken to Idlib
Looks like 20 buses/1000 people already on their way.
Hassan Ridha @sayed_ridha 3h3 hours ago
Buses have entered al-Mu'adhamiyah and have begun evacuation of 800 local & Daraya militants + their families, they will be taken to Idlib
Looks like 20 buses/1000 people already on their way.
Last edited by JohninMK on Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:40 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Second item added)
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Another evacuation of rebels done secretly from Aleppo. Story is that they had a disagreement with some of the more extreme groups and suffered 12 killed in the resulting firefight. The remaining ~150 made a secret deal with the government and left immediately. The rebels in Aleppo have the opportunity to leave thru two corridors tomorrow between 0800-1600. Apparently hardliners are threatening to kill any rebel or civilian who try to leave. The civilians have 6 other corridors that they can exit via between 0800-1600 over the next three days. Be interesting to see how successful the extremist are in preventing this.
Convoy of 150 rebels leaving the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5HaOs69O2U
Convoy of 150 rebels leaving the city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5HaOs69O2U
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https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/pictures-militants-southwest-damascus-transferred-idlib-evacuation-deal/
An evacuation deal held earlier between the Syrian government and rebels in the southwestern town of Al-Moadamiyah has entered into force today with hundreds of militants leaving the longtime rebel bastion.
Local sources reported that around 700 militants with their families (1800 in total) have initiated a one-way trip to the northwestern province of Idlib.
Those who choose to stay will have their status settled by the Syrian authorities.
The sources said that approximately 200 out of the 700 militants are originally from the adjacent Darayya and Kafarsouseh towns.
Eye witnesses said that dozens of the government 'green buses', accompanied by the Syrian Arab Red Crescent, have entered the town early this morning to prepare for the evacuation process.
Last week, rebels in western Damascus left Al-Hama and Qudsaya to Idlib under a similar agreement.
An evacuation deal held earlier between the Syrian government and rebels in the southwestern town of Al-Moadamiyah has entered into force today with hundreds of militants leaving the longtime rebel bastion.
Local sources reported that around 700 militants with their families (1800 in total) have initiated a one-way trip to the northwestern province of Idlib.
Those who choose to stay will have their status settled by the Syrian authorities.
The sources said that approximately 200 out of the 700 militants are originally from the adjacent Darayya and Kafarsouseh towns.
Eye witnesses said that dozens of the government 'green buses', accompanied by the Syrian Arab Red Crescent, have entered the town early this morning to prepare for the evacuation process.
Last week, rebels in western Damascus left Al-Hama and Qudsaya to Idlib under a similar agreement.
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JohninMK wrote:An estimated 3000 people on the move in 70 buses. This will put an interesting logistics load on where they end up.
Hassan Ridha @sayed_ridha 3h3 hours ago
Buses have entered al-Mu'adhamiyah and have begun evacuation of 800 local & Daraya militants + their families, they will be taken to Idlib
Looks like 20 buses/1000 people already on their way.
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#Russian airforce bombed #FSA positions south of Marea in Northern #Aleppo after the FSA declared SDF-held Tell Rifaat as military zone.
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arpakola wrote:https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/pictures-militants-southwest-damascus-transferred-idlib-evacuation-deal/
An evacuation deal held earlier between the Syrian government and rebels in the southwestern town of Al-Moadamiyah has entered into force today with hundreds of militants leaving the longtime rebel bastion.
Local sources reported that around 700 militants with their families (1800 in total) have initiated a one-way trip to the northwestern province of Idlib.
Those who choose to stay will have their status settled by the Syrian authorities.
The sources said that approximately 200 out of the 700 militants are originally from the adjacent Darayya and Kafarsouseh towns.
Eye witnesses said that dozens of the government 'green buses', accompanied by the Syrian Arab Red Crescent, have entered the town early this morning to prepare for the evacuation process.
Last week, rebels in western Damascus left Al-Hama and Qudsaya to Idlib under a similar agreement.
These idiots are going to Idlib, to get killed, get them out of them Damascus and Aleppo and to Idlib, than you can easily bomb them in Idlib.
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new flag of syrian "revolution"
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Loosely translated as 'Those evil Russians wouldn't let us hide this and anyway who will believe them?' perhaps.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) – The Russian center for Syrian reconciliation said Tuesday it had received local reports of an airstrike on the village of Hassajek near Aleppo that killed six people and wounded at least four. Two Belgian Air Force F-16 jets had been detected in the area at the time of the strike.
"Belgium deeply regrets that no prior consultation has taken place with a view to establishing the facts, before accusations were made in public. This method begs for the wider question as to the motives behind these false accusations towards Belgium and the International Coalition against ISIS," the ministry said in a statement. It denied any Belgian Air Force aircraft have been operating over the Aleppo province in the last few days. "These accusations are therefore totally groundless and unsubstantiated," the ministry stressed adding that both Minister of Foreign Affairs Didier Reynders and Minister of Defense Steven Vandeput strongly deny the accusations of possible involvement of national F-16 jets in the airstrike.
The statement also noted that a series of verifications are always made before any mission of the US-led coalition is carried out, so that all possible collateral damage to civilians is avoided.
Russian Defense Ministry’s spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said on Wednesday that targeting mistakes by the member countries of the US-led coalition, including Belgium, occur on a regular basis, while Russia has effective air defense means, which ensure round-the-clock monitoring of the air situation practically over all the territory of Syria and beyond.
Read more: https://sputniknews.com/world/201610191046514578-brussels-raid-moscow-accusations/
MOSCOW (Sputnik) – The Russian center for Syrian reconciliation said Tuesday it had received local reports of an airstrike on the village of Hassajek near Aleppo that killed six people and wounded at least four. Two Belgian Air Force F-16 jets had been detected in the area at the time of the strike.
"Belgium deeply regrets that no prior consultation has taken place with a view to establishing the facts, before accusations were made in public. This method begs for the wider question as to the motives behind these false accusations towards Belgium and the International Coalition against ISIS," the ministry said in a statement. It denied any Belgian Air Force aircraft have been operating over the Aleppo province in the last few days. "These accusations are therefore totally groundless and unsubstantiated," the ministry stressed adding that both Minister of Foreign Affairs Didier Reynders and Minister of Defense Steven Vandeput strongly deny the accusations of possible involvement of national F-16 jets in the airstrike.
The statement also noted that a series of verifications are always made before any mission of the US-led coalition is carried out, so that all possible collateral damage to civilians is avoided.
Russian Defense Ministry’s spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said on Wednesday that targeting mistakes by the member countries of the US-led coalition, including Belgium, occur on a regular basis, while Russia has effective air defense means, which ensure round-the-clock monitoring of the air situation practically over all the territory of Syria and beyond.
Read more: https://sputniknews.com/world/201610191046514578-brussels-raid-moscow-accusations/
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so now all ISIS is concentrated in Syria
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Looks like that is now the objective of US/Saudi. The last paras from the latest Fortrus post on the subjectGeorge1 wrote:so now all ISIS is concentrated in Syria
Sure, by being driven out of Mosul the militants won’t be in the best shape, but there will be many of them and every soldier counts now in Syria. Most likely, this cunning American maneuver will not solve the problem of Aleppo, but will buy the Americans a few months. Only this is what the Obama Administration needs. How many civilians will die for the sake of the Syrian disaster not tarnishing the end of Obama’s term is irrelevant.
Sergey Lavrov has pointed out that the influx of militants from Iraq to Syria might have to be resolved by military methods. This is difficult, but possible. The Americans have not learned the lesson that EU Security Commissioner Julian King already learned. The numerous militants being driven out of Mosul might realize that they don’t want to die in Syria, so they’ll set off to continue their activities in Europe.
I would like to advise European politicians, but I can’t. They created this problem themselves, and now let them sort it out. Perhaps the fear of terror will still force some European politicians to reconsider their attitude towards the Russian operation in Syria.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/10/what-is-us-really-doing-in-mosul.html
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ISIS fleeing Iraq and coming into Syria is really bad news for the SAA, especially those in Deir ez Zoir. I really hope most are killed on route back to Syria. The Iraqi air force has bombed a few but there's reports that already 100 ISIS commanders have fled to Syria. I remember a couple of weeks ago Putin saying that a squadron of Su-25 can be deployed to Syria in the matter of 2-3 days, i think that time should be now, they will be needed for the massive offensive against Deir ez Zoir and Palmyra. But i think troops are ideally needed as well, hopefully the Mosul offensive, and Turkish backed FSA offensive in northern Aleppo lasts for a few months more and that Aleppo city has fallen by then. Because the extra troops will be needed from Aleppo offensive to use elsewhere. If only China got its finger out and deployed some troops. I really dont want to see the troops in Deir ez Zoir to be butchered after all there hard work over the last few years.
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d_taddei2 wrote:ISIS fleeing Iraq and coming into Syria is really bad news for the SAA, especially those in Deir ez Zoir. I really hope most are killed on route back to Syria. The Iraqi air force has bombed a few but there's reports that already 100 ISIS commanders have fled to Syria. I remember a couple of weeks ago Putin saying that a squadron of Su-25 can be deployed to Syria in the matter of 2-3 days, i think that time should be now, they will be needed for the massive offensive against Deir ez Zoir and Palmyra. But i think troops are ideally needed as well, hopefully the Mosul offensive, and Turkish backed FSA offensive in northern Aleppo lasts for a few months more and that Aleppo city has fallen by then. Because the extra troops will be needed from Aleppo offensive to use elsewhere. If only China got its finger out and deployed some troops. I really dont want to see the troops in Deir ez Zoir to be butchered after all there hard work over the last few years.
I am quite sure SAA and Russia have been watching this exodus from Iraq closely.
It will be interesting to see what the next move is.
This video I just found says Russia has created an outpost to fight ISIS Terrorists Fleeing Iraq
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I love you guys, but there's a problem with the spooling towards Syria BS. There's no direct road from Mosul to Raqqah. The passage towards Markadin is open to droning and bombing. The Iraqis have understood that and they're shooting at anything that moves.
So before they get out, they would be forced regroup and coordinate. This will take time. As simple as that.
So before they get out, they would be forced regroup and coordinate. This will take time. As simple as that.
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Spot on.KoTeMoRe wrote:I love you guys, but there's a problem with the spooling towards Syria BS. There's no direct road from Mosul to Raqqah. The passage towards Markadin is open to droning and bombing. The Iraqis have understood that and they're shooting at anything that moves.
So before they get out, they would be forced regroup and coordinate. This will take time. As simple as that.
The US might not be attacking their Sunni 'foot soldiers' as they flee west but sure as hell the Iraqi AF is. Plus Russia is in the INT centre in Bagdad. Moscow knows everything there is to know and said so yesterday. Posted in other thread.
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Russia insists two Belgium warplanes flying from an Air Force base in Jordan attacked a village in Syria, citing radar data. Belgium denies conducting any airstrikes.
Brussels’ continued denial of the jets movements in the area is Belgian Defense Minister Steven Vandeput “deliberately deceiving people in Belgium and elsewhere in the world, or his subordinates and the Americans are lying to the leadership of Belgium,” Russian Defense Ministry spokesman General Igor Konashenkov said.
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FILE PHOTO. © Ammar Abdullah ‘6 killed in airstrike’ on village in Aleppo province, Belgium denies involvement
An airstrike on the village of Hassadjek in Aleppo province reportedly killed six civilians on Tuesday. Russia has now reiterated its accusations against Belgium, saying data from Russian and Syrian radar stations confirm it.
“Detailed information about the operation of the Belgian F-16s in Syrian sky will be delivered to the Belgian side through diplomatic and military channels,” Konashenkov said.
The two Belgian F-16 jets accused of the attack flew from the Muwaffaq Salti Airbase in Jordan, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman General Igor Konashenkov said, adding that they were immediately identified.
“Every aircraft type has a unique identifiable signature,” he said.
The Belgian warplanes delivered their strike at the village at 12:35 GMT, about two hours after the take-off, the general said. The attack left six civilians killed and four others injured. The jets were later refueled by a US KC-135 tanker, continued patrolling around the city of Azaz in northwestern Syria and then flew towards Iraq, Konashenkov added.
Belgium earlier denied Russia’s accusations, saying none of its six warplanes contributing to the US-led coalition had flown over the region. The Foreign Ministry summoned the Russian ambassador to Brussels to voice its protest.
https://www.rt.com/news/363493-belgium-f16-aleppo-airstrike/
So where are the SAMs?
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JohninMK wrote:Spot on.KoTeMoRe wrote:I love you guys, but there's a problem with the spooling towards Syria BS. There's no direct road from Mosul to Raqqah. The passage towards Markadin is open to droning and bombing. The Iraqis have understood that and they're shooting at anything that moves.
So before they get out, they would be forced regroup and coordinate. This will take time. As simple as that.
The US might not be attacking their Sunni 'foot soldiers' as they flee west but sure as hell the Iraqi AF is. Plus Russia is in the INT centre in Bagdad. Moscow knows everything there is to know and said so yesterday. Posted in other thread.
We agree, the most interested party in this is Iraq. they need to take out the Cancer before they turn around and pummel the KRG into submission. Russia is just enjoying the Show in Iraq. And selling the IAF all it needs (or can pay)
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Erk wrote:https://www.rt.com/news/363493-belgium-f16-aleppo-airstrike/
So where are the SAMs?
Nominally both Russia/Syria and the West are on the same side of anti-terrorist (although in reality that is not true).
Therefore, Russia/Syria can shot the rebel scumbags without questioning anyone, but they cannot do the same thing to Western forces.
Keep in mind that the influence of Western propagamedia is still strong.
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In general, the public here in Belgium seems to be of the opinion that our incompetent Minister of Defense is up to the old tricks again. His predecessors have all been caught with their pants down, or have withheld sensitive information about military operations and arms deals to the likes of Saudi Arabia etc....
So basically this character has 0 credibility here, and already i can see many people that are saying that this is another screw up.
Our Ministers of Defense have had a long standing tradition of getting caught with their pants down in some NATO induced scandals.
I truly hope that Russia can provide some conclusive evidence. But our media will probably simply choose not to report on the subject anymore if they do.
Otherwise i am certain this guy's head would role...
The general public does not take kindly here to playing NATO lapdog, its just our military and political elite who like to do that, but preferably without the public knowing about it.
Also, i don't think you will find a single civilian who is not opposed to the sanctions against Russia, as they are ruining our agriculture as well. Unfortunately our politicians provide daily distractions, as we have some major internal issues of the "communal" type to worry about.
So basically this character has 0 credibility here, and already i can see many people that are saying that this is another screw up.
Our Ministers of Defense have had a long standing tradition of getting caught with their pants down in some NATO induced scandals.
I truly hope that Russia can provide some conclusive evidence. But our media will probably simply choose not to report on the subject anymore if they do.
Otherwise i am certain this guy's head would role...
The general public does not take kindly here to playing NATO lapdog, its just our military and political elite who like to do that, but preferably without the public knowing about it.
Also, i don't think you will find a single civilian who is not opposed to the sanctions against Russia, as they are ruining our agriculture as well. Unfortunately our politicians provide daily distractions, as we have some major internal issues of the "communal" type to worry about.
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0nillie0 wrote:In general, the public here in Belgium seems to be of the opinion that our incompetent Minister of Defense is up to the old tricks again. His predecessors have all been caught with their pants down, or have withheld sensitive information about military operations and arms deals to the likes of Saudi Arabia etc....
So basically this character has 0 credibility here, and already i can see many people that are saying that this is another screw up.
Our Ministers of Defense have had a long standing tradition of getting caught with their pants down in some NATO induced scandals.
I truly hope that Russia can provide some conclusive evidence. But our media will probably simply choose not to report on the subject anymore if they do.
Otherwise i am certain this guy's head would role...
The general public does not take kindly here to playing NATO lapdog, its just our military and political elite who like to do that, but preferably without the public knowing about it.
Also, i don't think you will find a single civilian who is not opposed to the sanctions against Russia, as they are ruining our agriculture as well. Unfortunately our politicians provide daily distractions, as we have some major internal issues of the "communal" type to worry about.
Extracted from my post in the other thread to answer your comment
The Russian Defense Ministry will unveil flight path details of the Belgian Air Force jets at the time of the deadly strike on a village near Aleppo in Syria, Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said Thursday.
"Either Steven Vandeput is purposefully misleading the Belgian and the international community, or his subordinates jointly with their US colleagues are deceiving the authorities of the Kingdom of Belgium."
Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201610201046541500-russia-syria-belgium/
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Erk wrote:..................
https://www.rt.com/news/363493-belgium-f16-aleppo-airstrike/
So where are the SAMs?
Easy there Doc Holiday, this is barely a ripple in the ocean, happens all the time...
Besides, why spoil good infowar opportunity?
0nillie0 wrote:In general, the public here in Belgium seems to be of the opinion that our incompetent Minister of Defense is up to the old tricks again. His predecessors have all been caught with their pants down, or have withheld sensitive information about military operations and arms deals to the likes of Saudi Arabia etc....
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Agreed. If this were drone strike then they could play dumb but F-16 is pretty obvious and traceable thing.