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    Post  ultron Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:40 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Just retaliation for doign the same to Alawis, Christians etc.

    You know very well that Sunni Arabs are the most disloyal demographic group in Syria. SAa officer corps has always been dominated by Alawis and Christians so Bashar and Hafez distrusted Sunnis all along. They had a good reason to.

    Good point. ISIS only infests Sunni Arab places. In Iraq's Anbar and Nineveh provinces. In Sunni Arab places of Syria. In Sunni Arab places of Yemen.
    They are not found in Alawite and Shia and Christian and Kurdish places in Syria. They are not found in Shia and Kurdish places in Iraq. They are not found in Shia places in Yemen.

    This has nothing to do with political correctness. This is a fact.
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    Post  Werewolf Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:11 pm

    Ohh yea, sunnis make over 85-90% of all muslims you are blaming All muslims for MERCENARIES of the Jewnited Snake states that are paid to play terrorist under a religious flag, while getting nice payments thousands to ten thousands sometimes even millions of USD more then they could earn in thousand years in those regions. If all sunnis are so bad lets be equal and exterminate every jew, every christian because most christians that are the trouble makers are not orthodox or protestants but catholic so lets exterminate them all (entire Europe, except Greeks and Russia) and of course USA.

    You are a sick person through and through, but do not worry sooner or later with your disgusting thoughts there will be bloody revolution in this country and dare you speak a single word and expose yourself, it will be your blood that gets spilled first.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:13 pm

    Blease Were, don't feed the troll, blease
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    Post  Werewolf Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:14 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Blease Were, don't feed the troll, blease

    We need a purge here asap.
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    Post  marat Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:15 pm

    Millions of Sunni Muslims are Russian citizens. Would you kill them to?

    How old are you? Do you have kids? Did you ever see 2 year old kid laugh?

    Do you feel brave when calling for killing millions of inocent people?
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    Post  marat Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:16 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Blease Were, don't feed the troll, blease

    He is not troll he is nazist! And he is not the only one.

    Question is is this Russian forum?

    Russia as country who defeat nazism losing 27 millions of its people, Russia whose official politic is anti-naci.

    Or this is neo naci forum.

    Try to defend terrorism ( or what they officialy claim as terorism) on USA forum.

    How could be tolerated advocating naci ideology on Russian forum? You guys have lost 27millions in fight agains them.


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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:18 pm

    He's a cheap troll talking shit. Just don't feed him. You're all good people, just don't go for that.

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    Post  ultron Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:24 pm

    I still don't get how NDF retreated from Mahin so easily. The Syrian army cannot take a single town, so how can ISIS so easily take towns and even cities and even capital cities? We are talking about a big town, not a tiny village. ISIS have nothing other than some AKs and at best a few pickups. NDF should have made a stand rather than retreated. I smell an inside job, just like how the Iraqi army lost Mosul and Ramadi so easily. ISIS has lot of money. ISIS can simply buy wins rather than fight for wins. ISIS gets most of its money from Saudi Arabia. Find the moes in the Syrian army and strung them upside down for taking ISIS money and ordering retreats.
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    Post  Prince Darling Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:07 pm

    sunni muslims in Syria at what they do best



    placing captured minorities and families of army officers in cages as human shields (to prevent airstrikes on them)
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    Post  NationalRus Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:34 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Blease Were, don't feed the troll, blease

    We need a purge here asap.

    and we should start with you you disgusting sick fuck with your mental jew problems how many times you said in general jews (all the people) should basically not exist and there state whipped out, well let me ask you you disgusting mofo HOW THE FUCK YOU ELIMINATE A STATE with all the people in it you mental mental lunatic, now compering chistians and other people with sunni muslims the only religion which lives by hundreds of millions basically in 570 CE and that TODAY?? you are so deeply disturbed in you brain or what shit paste you have up there left.

    you are the most disgusting sick deranged mental FREAK on this forum, you call to nearly genocide with you crazy fucked up ZOG JEW talk basically in every 3rd post and you want now to hold a sermon on morals? are you fucking kidding me? you lost it you completely lost it you should only SHUT THE FUCK UP
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    Post  Vann7 Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:40 pm

    ultron wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Just retaliation for doign the same to Alawis, Christians etc.

    You know very well that Sunni Arabs are the most disloyal demographic group in Syria. SAa officer corps has always been dominated by Alawis and Christians so Bashar and Hafez distrusted Sunnis all along. They had a good reason to.

    Good point. ISIS only infests Sunni Arab places. In Iraq's Anbar and Nineveh provinces. In Sunni Arab places of Syria. In Sunni Arab places of Yemen.
    They are not found in Alawite and Shia and Christian and Kurdish places in Syria. They are not found in Shia and Kurdish places in Iraq. They are not found in Shia places in Yemen.

    This has nothing to do with political correctness. This is a fact.


    The only correct thing you have said in the entire Syrian conflict. LOL

    In Syria the zones with strong sunni population ,like IDlib ,RAqqa and some suburbs in damascus and homs are the zones where more civilian support they received.
    It is true that majority of Syrian army is Sunni , but is not less true what you have stated.
    Sunni Islam is basically the most friendly territory that wahhabi terrorist can recruit people and find support. Both are wrong Sunni and Shia,both are sectarian  and intolerant to Christians.. look at IRAN .So called "secular" nations ,there is  death penalty over there for any Iranian that convert to Christianity is against their laws ,a major crime, for sponsoring christianity to muslins.. Other ugly facts that no Russian media will like to touch is how muhhamed raped/married a 9 year old girl or how he chopped the heads of many who opposed him. Those are the ugly facts.. the trouble facts ,that are banned its discussion in any country with strong muslin population that also no media in the world will like to talk. not even Russian media or the kremlin will touch those forbidden subjects ,for fear of major division and ethnic conflicts  against muslins ,than already is. The only moderates muslins are Alawis and any other sect that have distanced as much as possible of their own prophet teachings and follow their own
    religious leaders with more reforms ,and that are truly secular and welcome real equal rights for womens and have more tolerance for freedom of expression. So terrorist only problem with Assad is his reformist views about Islam.  Assad calls the muslin brotherhood (FSA) a terrorist organization and IRAN call them political opposition.  scratch

    There is a real religious war in middle east..and only the more educated ones in middle east ,can see beyond the horizon of how US and ISrael are using muslins sectarian long difference for their own advantage ,and remove from power Government not aligned with US imperialism.

    In short anyone with the ability to do third grade mathematics under a quick inspection of middle east will quickly see Islam is at the core of the problems with its violence. and that is not just US and ISrael thing ,that their role is merely to fuel divisions in an already very weak alliance that always existed between Shias and Sunnis and much more moderate factions like
    Alawis and others.

    The only solution for middle east .. is overthrow the Saudi Monarchi ,the major sponsor of terror and wahhabi ideology and replace it for a true secular nation..and have the European Union declare sanctions against any middle east country that do not truly have freedom of religion and welcome christians there. That is total intolerance for countries intolerant to freedom of expression. and use economic sanctions to pressure IRAN ,Saudi Arabia, Turkey and any other middle east nation that try to impose a religion on everyone by force.


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    Post  ultron Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:53 pm

    It looks like Russia will have to deploy ground forces to fight ISIS. SAA and even NDF is not up to standard.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:57 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    ultron wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Just retaliation for doign the same to Alawis, Christians etc.

    You know very well that Sunni Arabs are the most disloyal demographic group in Syria. SAa officer corps has always been dominated by Alawis and Christians so Bashar and Hafez distrusted Sunnis all along. They had a good reason to.

    Good point. ISIS only infests Sunni Arab places. In Iraq's Anbar and Nineveh provinces. In Sunni Arab places of Syria. In Sunni Arab places of Yemen.
    They are not found in Alawite and Shia and Christian and Kurdish places in Syria. They are not found in Shia and Kurdish places in Iraq. They are not found in Shia places in Yemen.

    This has nothing to do with political correctness. This is a fact.


    The only correct thing you have said in the entire Syrian conflict. LOL
    It is true that majority of Syrian army is Sunni , but is not less true what you have stated.
    Sunni withing Islam is basically the only fertile territory that wahhabi terrorist can recruit people and find support. Both are wrong ,both are sectarian Sunni and Shia and intolerant to Christians.. look at IRAN is death penalty over there for any Iranian muslin to convert to Christianity. Other ugly facts that no Russian media will like to touch is how muhhamed raped/married a 9 year old girl or how he chopped the heads of many who opposed him. Those are the ugly facts.. the trouble facts ,that are banned its discussion in any country with strong muslin population that also no media in the world will like to talk. not even Russian media or the kremlin will touch those forbidden subjects ,for fear of major division and ethnic conflicts  against muslins ,than already is. The only moderates muslins are Alawis and any other sect that have distanced as much as possible of their own prophet teachings and follow their own
    religious leaders with more reforms ,and that are truly secular and welcome real equal rights for womens and have more tolerance for freedom of expression.

    Iran is becoming more liberal though - more often death penalty for changing religion is substituted with imprisonment. Not exactly what you would call religious freedom but still better than what KSA does. The freest Muslim country is Oman.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:59 pm

    ultron wrote:It looks like Russia will have to deploy ground forces to fight ISIS. SAA and even NDF is not up to standard.
    Do you know what forces were stationed in Mahin? Maybe it was onlt a platoon of NDF. Light infantry is fairy easy to take on, in Afghanistan it was the heavy stuff that decided the outcome of most engagements with Taliban, not file and rank grunts.
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    Post  iraqidabab Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:00 pm

    Prince Darling wrote:sunni muslims in Syria at what they do best



    placing captured minorities and families of army officers in cages as human shields (to prevent airstrikes on them)

    Did they learn that straight from ISIS who put the pilot in a cage. They're really dumb, they're making propaganda against themselves. This gives international leaders a lot of leverage to call rebels same shit as terrorists.
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    Post  Werewolf Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:00 pm

    NationalRus wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Blease Were, don't feed the troll, blease

    We need a purge here asap.

    and we should start with you you disgusting sick fuck with your mental jew problems how many times you said in general jews (all the people) should basically not exist and there state whipped out, well let me ask you you disgusting mofo HOW THE FUCK YOU ELIMINATE A STATE with all the people in it you mental mental lunatic, now compering chistians and other people with sunni muslims the only religion which lives by hundreds of millions basically in 570 CE and that TODAY?? you are so deeply disturbed in you brain or what shit paste you have up there left.

    you are the most disgusting sick deranged mental FREAK on this forum, you call to nearly genocide with you crazy fucked up ZOG JEW talk basically in every 3rd post and you want now to hold a sermon on morals? are you fucking kidding me? you lost it you completely lost it you should only SHUT THE FUCK UP

    Quote me you filthy scum!
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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:38 pm

    ISIS is on the receiving end of this SAA TOS-1 system.  thumbsup

    GIF not by me i just found it on the Net elsewhere.

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    Post  ultron Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:39 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    ultron wrote:It looks like Russia will have to deploy ground forces to fight ISIS. SAA and even NDF is not up to standard.
    Do you know what forces were stationed in Mahin? Maybe it was onlt a platoon of NDF. Light infantry is fairy easy to take on, in Afghanistan it was the heavy stuff that decided the outcome of most engagements with Taliban, not file and rank grunts.

    In Mahin there was a small group of NDF. Had an Iranian or Iraqi or Lebanese Shia contingent been stationed there, Mahin would never have fallen.
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    Post  Vann7 Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:43 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:
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    If ISIS is killing tens of thousands of christians then let the christian west send in ground forces.
    The West is not Christian and Syrian Christians are Orthodox Christians which the West generally hates. The West has always sided with the Muslims against Orthodox Christian, be it Kosovo, Bosnia, Chechnya or the Middle East.

    Venezuela,Cuba,Ecuador ,Bolivia ,Nicaragua ,are catholic christians.. lol1

    There is a real world war against organized christianity (catholic/Orthodox) ,but also
    Evangelical too that focus on Christ and not in the jewish (zionist side of the bible) that is previous Jesus. by Anglo zionist powers. and they trying to replace it with ISlam.. reason why Europe is flood with muslins and European countries already welcome Sharia Law. Western powers Neocon elite who is atheist , do this ,to make it more difficult for Christian Russia to integrate with muslin Europe. and to more easily control it ,to try replicate the Saudi Arabia project Success of total control millions of its society throught their Fake religion.  Since people become busy all day in their muslin rituals while the Saudi Family enjoy the good European free life with their billions.



    Religion should be totally separated from Politics plain a simple and should not be forced on civilians. Europe learned that the hard way.. but not middle east and Asia and Africa. and the right to live with freedom of expression ,freedom of religion made world basic rights mandatory for all nations. Allowing any religion to take control of society and control everything in their lives ,and most of the middle east does. including Saudi Arabia .Turkey , IRAN and IRAQ, IS what allow dictators and totalitarian regimes to stay in power for decades and creates today the middle east endless violence and makes very easy for foreign nations to fuel the conflict with their weapons and money .


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    Post  Guest Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:53 pm

    ultron wrote:Russia should deploy some special forces to recapture Mahin. Using thermal night vision. ISIS can't see at night.

    Thermal and night vision do not go together in same sentence, you are aware of that right? "Night vision" is mostly refering to IR illumination intensifiers/FLIR, while thermal imaging is...well..thermal imaging.
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    Post  Guest Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:56 pm

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    Militarov, were did you get these charts?

    Friend sent them to me, i belive they are from some journalist on twitter.

    EDIT: Here i got the source: https://twitter.com/yarinah1/status/660562809592356865 enjoy Smile


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    Post  Karl Haushofer Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:56 pm

    Sunnis form the majority in Syria. There is no way that you just "expel" all of them.

    If Syrian government wins this war they should rather repress any teaching and spreading of radical Islam with brutality. Train and send "spies" to Sunni mosques throughout the country, gather information about people who are teaching and funding radical Islam and make these people "disappear" without questions asked. Go after them. One by one.
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    Syria rebels using caged captives as 'human shields': monitor

    "A major Syrian rebel group is using dozens of captives in metal cages as "human shields" in the largest opposition stronghold on the outskirts of Damascus, a monitor said Sunday. Jaish al-Islam, regarded as the most powerful rebel group near the capital, has put regime soldiers and Alawite civilians it was holding in metal cages, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights told AFP. The group then placed these cages in public squares in the Eastern Ghouta region in an attempt to "prevent regime bombardment", Observatory head Rami Abdel Rahman said. "Jaish al-Islam is using these captives and kidnapped people -- including whole families -- as human shields," he said.

    Government forces regularly bombard the Eastern Ghouta area, from where rebel groups fire rockets into the capital. On Friday, at least 70 people were killed and 550 wounded in regime bombardment of Douma, a large town in the area. A video published by opposition news outlet Shaam Network showed cages of men and women, about five people in each, being transported on the backs of three lorries through war-ravaged streets as young children rode by on bicycles. Speaking to camera, both men and women asked government forces to stop shelling Eastern Ghouta. "Your women are our women. If you want to kill my mother, you will kill them too," a dark-eyed teenage boy said outside one of the trucks. Abdel Rahman said most of the civilians were kidnapped by Jaish al-Islam two years ago outside Adra al-Ummaliyah, a regime-held neighbourhood in Eastern Ghouta.

    A Jaish al-Islam spokesman was not reachable for comment."


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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:17 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:Sunnis form the majority in Syria. There is no way that you just "expel" all of them.

    If Syrian government wins this war they should rather repress any teaching and spreading of radical Islam with brutality. Train and send "spies" to Sunni mosques throughout the country, gather information about people who are teaching and funding radical Islam and make these people "disappear" without questions asked. Go after them. One by one.
    There is 20-25% of middle class Sunnis that are secular and overwhelmingly pro-Assad - these people should be respected. As for the poor who form the bulk of rebel supporters, well... they should be said one big "GOODBYE" - they would be better off in Turkey.

    Inflicting a crushing defeat on the rebels would give Iran and Syria a very strong position. If that's coupled with a crushing defeat of Saudi army in Yemen, Assad will rule Syria with impunity.

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