Project 955: Borei class SSBN

The SSBN is a strategic asset, putting it at risk of discovery to operate in a conventional role is not something we want to be doing with the guaranteeor of our sovereignty. It's job is to remain undiscovered so it can play the deterrent role it serves.

Yes, I totally agree... but this was at a time in the 1990s when some on the internet suggested Russia was over as a military power and that there would be no more funding for anything... even speculation that when NATO took on F-35s that they might sell Russia their old F-16s because Russian fighter design bureaus could not survive... they had lost their eastern europe market for selling fighters and the Russian military couldn't afford to buy many... looking back now it seems silly, but at the time most of the new stuff now like Pantsir and other things were just marketing shells... they had Mi-28Ns in pictures but the guts of the aircraft wasn't developed... they were flying early prototypes.

Of course looking at the issue today you could actually follow through with the idea in a clever way that eliminates the issues you mentioned... if every modern sub is fitted with two external launch tubes with the nuclear propelled unlimited range cruise missiles, then in effect every sub could launch a strategic nuclear strike on any target on the planet... so even if HATO managed to destroy several SSBNs targets will still get destroyed eventually.

For those unaware, modern subs have internal and external launch tubes... the difference is that internal ones can be reloaded from inside the sub, while external launch tubes don't hang on the outside of the hull, they are normally located between the inner and outer hull of the sub so they are always loaded and ready to fire, but cannot be reloaded... UKSK launch tubes are an example of external tubes, but there are lots of decoy and jammer and anti torpedo tubes on subs that allows things to be launched rapidly 24/7.

verkhoturye51 wrote:The three parallel holes in the starboard and port bow section above waterline look interesting. Just hatches for ballast water or perhaps they could have something to do with countermeasures.

Original Borei has them too, but the 955A has them in slightly different positions. Hardly surprising given the change in hull design (original 955 used hull sections from unfinished 971s)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKNqVOHs71Q

Arrow wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKNqVOHs71Q

Meh... 17 mins of my life I won't get back.....

Obsolete info given the author thinks the main differences between 955 and 955A is the all-moving tailplane. In reality, a 955A is as similar to a 955 as a Ohio is to a Delta IV.

The BS about sonar signatures of the 955 is simply a joke. We are supposed to believe that genuine info from the USN regarding Borei acoustic characteristics is going to be public domain??? J fecking C... this guy is simply disseminating disinfo from "unclassified" sources that are little more than conduits of US fakery.

Amusing, but the guy can't even count... he said the Bulava can carry 6 warheads and 40 decoys, so the target would see 46 incoming warheads of which only 6 would go boom.

Pumps designed to be easily replaced not being replaced in peace time... big deal.

Don't you mean the Borei-K SSGN project... and you answer it yourself... the US does not want to sign it to renew it so they wont... any excuse they use would never be the real reasons anyway and whether they can justify it or not they wont be signing a new agreement any time soon so who cares what reasons they use.

I rather suspect they want to include hypersonic weapons in both a replacement for the INF treaty and the New New START treaty... and I hope the Russians wont give up that... I am also sure the US will demand China be included but wont demand the UK or France be included too... including France and or China would mean no change of an agreement... why would they give up anything when the US and Russia have so many more much more powerful weapons?

A few pics from the fat fellow.

If these are recent pics of going out to white sea then we may hear about a Bulava launch in coming days.

Borei-A seems to be longer.

Their cruise missile armed subs will be used in conventional war so they don't need to be state of the art super stealthy... the vast majority of the countries on the planet couldn't track down a Foxtrot off their coast let alone a more modern sub like a Delta IV which could carry cruise missiles in two stacks or one stack with a greatly reduced hump size....