Russian Air Force numbers and procurement plans

I believe the only people who know for sure are not telling

On the other hand senior officials said they were planning on doubling 2022's combat aircraft production totals in 2023 so...

Another fact that I believe causes confusion is that some get focused on the original planned 2023 production (and contracts) that were prior to the start of the SVO. All of that went out the window Production rates increased and new (unannounced) contracts signed.

You are not counting upgraded MiG-31 deliveries. I think I saw a mention of that last year.
If you add up any aircraft brought out from storage you could easily get to the announced numbers.

If you consider only new VK-2500 engines production at St. Petersburg you won't get the total picture for helicopters. For example in Donbass they repair the TV3-117 engine. They could be repairing older helicopters and putting them into service.

Algeria had refused to accept the SMTs because they found on the aircrafts equipment dated back to the early 1990s

They had not be used, they were made and stored but no flown. The Algerians said they wanted brand new build aircraft, which is suspicious because the MiG-29SMT is an aircraft upgrade rather than a new model aircraft, but I suspect it was just the excuse used because Sukhoi offered to sell to them Su-30 aircraft for the same price.

Then it is good.

That will teach them a lesson to sell a mig 29 the same price as a su-30

Isos wrote:Then it is good.

That will teach them a lesson to sell a mig 29 the same price as a su-30

The problems there is that sukhoi and MiG competed against each other for a foreign contract and that was not filtered by Russia.

Now they are both parts of UAC.

That will teach them a lesson to sell a mig 29 the same price as a su-30

What are you talking about?

Sukhoi used its financial strength of sales of Flankers to approach Algeria and say... hey... you just signed an agreement with MiG to buy some MiG-29SMTs. If you cancel that and buy some Su-30Ms instead we will match the price you are paying for the MiGs.

The whole point of the UAC or OAK company was because ruthless Russian companies would stab each other in the back to get contracts from each other... and often end up making Russian stuff just look bad in the process to get sales.

The MiG-29SMT would have been a more capable aircraft than the Su-30s they ended up buying and would probably have been significantly cheaper over the lifespan of the aircraft in terms of support costs.

Now they are both parts of UAC.

And Sukhoi still tries to screw MiG with Su-75...

Interesting article about Su-57 production in 2022, 2023 and plan for 2024.

In short:

Su-57 production plan for 2024 is 20+ airframes and it will be the most produced warplane for VKS.
second one in the list will be Su-34M with little bit less than 20 new airframes.

So Su-57 number produced is something like:

• 2024 - 20+ airframes
  
• 2023 - 12 airframes
  
• 2022 - 6 airframes
  

About plans for Su-35 and Su-30SM2 they don't say anything.

Ned86 wrote:About plans for Su-35 and Su-30SM2 they don't say anything.

The Su-30SM2 has only a limited number of orders. I think they mean to replace some old aircraft in Russian Naval Aviation with it and that's about it. There is also the Su-30 order for Kazakhstan.

Su-35 production should decrease since it is produced in the same facilities as the Su-57.

GarryB wrote:...
And Sukhoi still tries to screw MiG with Su-75...

MiG deserves to be screwed

For decades they ain't delivered shit

For decades they have had no orders, but the orders they have had they have delivered.

They had no orders because they had no products worth paying for

I ha ve heard a new about the deliver of a new batch of Su-35S but was unab le to check it, Any confirmation? Or they have tightened secrecy even more, so that now si forbidden even to mention it?

I think the MiG-35 would have been a very effective fighter competing against the Su-30SM/2 and Su-35 but overall I think it lost out due to the fact Su-30SM was already a flying jet more or less and same with Su-35 being further along at the time.

MiG-35s wouldn't replace Su-30s or Su-35s, their roles are different.

Su-30 is a two seat Su-35 and both are air superiority fighters... like an F-15 or F-22.

The MiG-35 is the numbers aircraft and is more like an F-16 which will be carrying air to ground weapons as much as it will be shooting down enemy aircraft.

The flankers are essentially PVO air control types and longer range interceptors that would use AB because they have the fuel capacity to use it enough to get places quickly.

The MiG-35 is more of a MiG-21/MiG-27/Su-17 type that would operate over or near the front line and hit ground targets with standoff missiles and glide bombs and would probably shoot down drones too.

Loitering near the front line or perhaps 10-20km back it could still use high resolution radar to monitor the front line and detect enemy positions and forces as well as enemy drones... being airborne of course it has a much easier task of detecting low flying ground hugging drones... even if all you are doing is warning ground forces of their approach. (a fighter wont carry enough AAMs to deal with all the targets it will detect.)

The MiG-35 is going to be the beneficiary of the new technology MiG is developing for its light 5th gen fighters and its lower operating costs will allow the Russian military to restore Frontal Aviation to a degree that works with the Russian Army to deal with enemy ground forces and enemy aircraft near the line of contact.

Its lower operating costs and smaller size will enable it to operate near the front lines from motorways in rather greater numbers than can be achieved with the Flanker families.

On behalf of bmpd, we would like to point out that the Russian Aerospace Forces have thus received the first batch of Su-57 fighters in 2024, manufactured by the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant named after Yuri Gagarin (KnAAZ) of the UAC. This batch is a continuation of the contract concluded in June 2019 between the Russian Ministry of Defense and PJSC Sukhoi Company for the supply of a total of 76 serial Su-57 fighters to the Armed Forces (including the first two aircraft separately contracted in 2018), with the contract execution period ending in 2027. As usual, in UAC reports, starting in 2022, the number of aircraft delivered is not disclosed, and the tail numbers of the fighters are retouched in the official photo and video materials distributed.

Judging by the video, the Su-57 fighters of the first batch of 2024 have red tail numbers. According to unofficial reports , the transferred batch included three aircraft.

According to known information, by the beginning of 2024, 22 serial Su-57 fighters were built under this contract, of which, after the loss of the lead one on December 24, 2019 during the final stage of factory tests, the Russian Aerospace Forces received 21 aircraft. In particular, KnAAZ transferred four Su-57 aircraft to the Russian Aerospace Forces in 2020-2021, and six more in 2022 (two in May and four in December ), and in 2023 - 11 Su-57 aircraft (in two batches in September and December ).

As for the batch of Su-35S fighters indicated in the report (regarding the fact of delivery of which to the Aerospace Forces in the UAC press release, however, there is obvious ambiguity), this should already be the third batch of Su-35S in 2024, transferred by KnAAZ to the Russian Ministry of Defense. Earlier, it was reported that two batches of these aircraft were transferred in Apriland in May 2024.

Presumably, the Su-35S fighters that have now been transferred were manufactured under the fourth contract concluded by UAC in 2021 for the supply of Su-35S aircraft to the Russian Ministry of Defense. It is possible that this contract includes 24 aircraft with delivery by 2024. Presumably, the first four fighters under this contract were delivered to the VKS in December 2022 and, apparently, had blue tail numbers "04", "05", "06" and "07". Also, presumably, 12 Su-35S aircraft were delivered

in 2023 under this contract. Prior to that, under three previous contracts in 2009, 2015 and 2020, the Russian Aerospace Forces received 104 serial Su-35S aircraft from 2012 to 2022, and taking into account the aircraft delivered under the new contract in 2022 and 2023, by the beginning of 2024, the Russian Aerospace Forces received 120 serial Su-35S. One of the Su-57 fighters from the first batch of aircraft of this type delivered to the Russian Aerospace Forces in 2024, built by the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant named after Yu. A. Gagarin (KnAAZ) of PJSC United Aircraft Corporation, September 2024 (c) PJSC United Aircraft Corporation Video (c) UAC:

FULL ARTICLE: https://bmpd-livejournal-com.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

sepheronx wrote:I don't take BMPD to be reliable for the most part.  It is a lot of speculations they have done in the past.  We have bitched about them years ago.

Unfortunately the Russian government is tight with the release of information so you have to take it where you can... none are 100% IMO but some definitely more accurate then others.

It is the same of as the issue that you had brought up another time on questioning the daily MoD casualty reports. They are only best guess numbers by professional military intelligent analysis's. They are not used to inflate PR rates but are needed by the battle commanders to maintain some idea of the strength of the units facing them. I can guarantee that the actual daily numbers are not known by anyone including the Ukrainians.