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    Russia-Iran S-300 missile systems deal

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    Post  Viktor Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:38 pm

    Great Very Happy thumbsup

    Iran to Receive Modernized Version of Russian S-300 Missile Defense Systems

    and as suspected Very Happy

    Dehghan said that no additional Russian specialists would be needed since all of the Iranian specialists working with the system had already gone through training.
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    Post  macedonian Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:53 pm

    Russian Foreign Ministry: delivery of S-300 systems to Iran is not a matter of near future
    The political decision to open such an opportunity is far more important, says the ministry
    TASS wrote:MOSCOW, April 23. /TASS/. The delivery of S-300 air defense systems to Iran is not a matter of near future, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov told the media on Thursday.

    "I do not think that it is a matter of near future. It is far more important that a political and legal decision has been taken to open up such an opportunity," Ryabkov said.

    He pointed out that the situation had changed drastically after the Russian president’s decision taken on April 13 to lift the freeze from the sale of S-300 to Iran.

    TASS

    Is it just me, or is this getting ridiculously embarrassing?
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    Post  sepheronx Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:39 pm

    Probably mistranslation as it really doesnt make sense or fit into the whole article.

    Those S-300 will be sent to Iran, as deputy defense minister does not trump president of country.
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    Post  macedonian Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:56 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Probably mistranslation as it really doesnt make sense or fit into the whole article.
    Those S-300 will be sent to Iran, as deputy defense minister does not trump president of country.

    Yeah, well I think they're a bit more coordinated than what you give them credit.
    It's not like Lavrov's deputy can just state his own personal opinion.
    No, I fear it may be another "maneuver" that (at least in my eyes) seems very wrong.
    A possible trade-off with Israel maybe. Hope it's not, but smells fishy.

    And not a mistranslation either:
    ТАСС wrote:МИД РФ: поставка С-300 Ирану не являются вопросом ближайшего времени

    ТАСС
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    Post  sepheronx Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:06 pm

    Interesting. seems fishy indeed. Guess its a wait and see. I would be pissed if they go back on theor word again. But the move of the president does outweigh that of a deputy defense minister.
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    Post  macedonian Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:11 pm

    Israeli media is quick to pick it up (for obvious reasons).
    Must say - I find this very VERY disturbing. If Russia renegades on its word YET AGAIN! well that would be truly disappointing.
    A man (country) is only good as his word!

    JT wrote:Report: Russia says no S-300 missile sales to Iran soon
    Jerusalem Post

    TOI wrote:Russia says won’t deliver S-300 to Iran ‘in near future’
    Times of Israel

    As I said - very disappointing!
    And there goes the Mistral-high-moral-ground-stand out the door.
    IF true, of course.
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    Post  sepheronx Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:48 pm

    I thonk the ambassader to Russia from Iran should demand am explenation from this deputy defense minister. My understanding is that S-300, by order of Putin, is to be handed over to Iran by end of this year. If this guy is making his own statement outside what is allowed, hopefully he is forced to find a new job. If it was a mistake on reporters end, then they should be slapped a fee for misreporting.
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    Post  Werewolf Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:18 pm

    The jewish lobby is strong and there needs to be cut away from lobbyism from countries that are also undermining and harming russias national interests and security.
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    Post  sepheronx Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:00 pm

    Besides this one obscure article, cant find anything else.

    The article said wont be delivored anytime soon, amd goes on to say about the push by Putin. My understanding may be that he means not soon as in not in few months because last I heard, it wont be delivored till late this year. Coming from a deputy defense minister raises an eyebrow, but it could be misquoting for how vague his statement was.

    And when he uses the term "I think", it gives way to that it os an opinion more so than not.

    Hopefully Russia keeps to its word.
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    Post  Viktor Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:05 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Besides this one obscure article, cant find anything else.

    The article said wont be delivored anytime soon, amd goes on to say about the push by Putin. My understanding may be that he means not soon as in not in few months because last I heard, it wont be delivored till late this year. Coming from a deputy defense minister raises an eyebrow, but it could be misquoting for how vague his statement was.

    Nothing has changed. The thing Ryabkov was referring to is that the new contract needs to be singed (approx. 1 month) afterwards Iran will get its missiles (by the end of this year).

    "I do not think it's a question of the nearest time (delivery of S-300 to Iran). More importantly, the decision to political and legal, which opens up the opportunity. As for timing, it is the subject of an agreement between Moscow and Tehran," - said Ryabkov.

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    Post  sepheronx Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:10 pm

    much thanks Victor for clearing things up. No homo or anything but your like an angel to my eyes for good news.
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    Post  macedonian Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:14 pm

    Viktor wrote:Nothing has changed. The thing Ryabkov was referring to is that the new contract needs to be singed (approx. 1 month) afterwards Iran will get its missiles (by the end of this year).

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    About the bold part...is that your analysis of it?!
    Because that's not what I read in it. Perhaps I'm missing something.

    Besides, if nothing has changed - why publish this now? Makes no sense at all.
    And why is Israeli media all over this? Are they reading it differently too?

    Not trying to deny what you say is true at all Viktor, just doesn't make much sense to me - that's all.
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    Post  Viktor Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:56 pm

    Here you go Macedonian. After finalizing deal with the Iranians no date about the deliveries which will happen will not be published.

    That was not my analysis. It has been said previously that Iranian S-300 contract is to old and new one needs to be drafted. You can not do that overnight.

    Iranian might increase the order, add some S-350 too for instance but in any case will opt for a more modern version of S-300 because S-300PMU1 is no longer in production.


    The conditions of supply of S-300 to Iran are confidential information

    The Deputy Prime Minister of Russia said Friday that "the conditions of supply of missile defense systems S-300 to Iran are confidential and will not be announced," reports RIA Novosti .

    In April 2015 Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree lifting the ban on the supply of S-300 systems to Iran, introduced after the accession of Russia to the resolution of the Security Council of the UN in 2010.


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    Post  macedonian Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:26 pm

    Yes, thanks Viktor.
    There's also this from today.
    We'll just have to wait and see (and hope for the best) I guess.

    RIA wrote:VIENNA (Sputnik) — The issues related to the existing contract on deliveries of S-300 air defense systems to Iran are time-consuming and could not be resolved in a few weeks, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said Thursday.

    "In my experience, it is a rather complex and time-consuming issue. It cannot be resolved in a matter of days or even weeks," Ryabkov told RIA Novosti ahead of a fresh round of Iran nuclear talks in Vienna.
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    Post  Viktor Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:34 pm

    macedonian wrote:Yes, thanks Viktor.
    There's also this from today.
    We'll just have to wait and see (and hope for the best) I guess.

    RIA wrote:VIENNA (Sputnik) — The issues related to the existing contract on deliveries of S-300 air defense systems to Iran are time-consuming and could not be resolved in a few weeks, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said Thursday.

    "In my experience, it is a rather complex and time-consuming issue. It cannot be resolved in a matter of days or even weeks," Ryabkov told RIA Novosti ahead of a fresh round of Iran nuclear talks in Vienna.

    Iranians wanted to sign a new contract by the end of this month ... it does not go that way nor that fast. In light of that was by my opinion Ryabkov statement.

    It does not take much for journos to make a mess and now the whole thing will go to "invisibility" mode Very Happy

    Given US policiy in Ukraine I have no doubt Iran, Argentina and whoever will se the best of Russian weapons in many more nice defense contracts to come Very Happy
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    Post  Werewolf Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:43 pm

    I really hope they do sell the S-300 because of the US and Israel doing about Ukraine and are war mongering against russia.
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    Post  Viktor Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:51 pm

    Werewolf wrote:I really hope they do sell the S-300 because of the US and Israel doing about Ukraine and are war mongering against russia.

    Russia will sell I have no doubt but I hope Iran will order 6 new Lada class and 1000 T-14 and 30 S-300 batteries as well as 150 of Su-35BM and ton of other stuff needed to fend of pesky gringos.  Very Happy
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    Post  macedonian Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:57 pm

    Viktor wrote:Iranians wanted to sign a new contract by the end of this month ... it does not go that way nor that fast. In light of that was by my opinion Ryabkov statement.

    It does not take much for journos to make a mess and now the whole thing will go to "invisibility" mode Very Happy

    Given US policiy in Ukraine I have no doubt Iran, Argentina and whoever will se the best of Russian weapons in many more nice defense contracts to come Very Happy

    I like your posts Viktor. Always full of optimism.
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    Post  Werewolf Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:09 pm

    Viktor wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:I really hope they do sell the S-300 because of the US and Israel doing about Ukraine and are war mongering against russia.

    Russia will sell I have no doubt but I hope Iran will order 6 new Lada class and 1000 T-14 and 30 S-300 batteries as well as 150 of Su-35BM and ton of other stuff needed to fend of pesky gringos.  Very Happy

    I hope not that Armata will be for sale, it should be treated like T-64 and not selling it anyone, not even a downgraded version the T-90MS is already more than most countries can build themselfs even western competition.
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    Post  macedonian Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:19 pm


    I think you might've been right all along Viktor.
    Lenta.ru

    Tweets from Yury Barmin (I appreciate his opinions and insider knowledge in Kremlin/Russian affairs):
    Yury Barmin @yurybarmin wrote:Russia asks Iran to drop the $4bn claim with the Geneva court over 2010 ban on S300 delivery.
    Yury Barmin @yurybarmin wrote:This may mean that Russia and Iran have finally agreed on terms of the new #S300 deal and have set the delivery date

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    Post  Viktor Wed May 06, 2015 5:58 pm

    Nice cheers thumbsup

    Teheran unveiled the dates for delivery of S-300 air defense systems to Iran

    Iran will take delivery of Russian air defense systems this year. It was stated by the Minister of Defense of Iran General Hossein Dehghan prior to his visit to Moscow, Lenta.ru reports.
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    Post  iraqidabab Wed May 27, 2015 12:06 am

    Russia Confirms Sale of S-300 Missile Systems To Iran

    MOSCOW — Russia on Tuesday confirmed its decision to deliver S-300 air defense missile systems to Iran, but said it could not yet announce a date.

    "The decision on delivering S-300 to Iran has been taken but the realization of the project will take some time," Yevgeny Lukyanov, deputy head of Russia's security council, was quoted by Russian agencies as saying.

    "As I understand, the time of delivery has not come yet," he said.

    Talks on the controversial deal, which has been frozen since 2010, finished Monday with Iran's Deputy Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian pronouncing them a "success."

    Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said Tuesday that the agreement is still being finalized.

    President Vladimir Putin last month lifted a ban on supplying Iran with the sophisticated systems, following the landmark framework deal Tehran struck with the West over its nuclear program.

    He said several days later that Iran is "demonstrating very high flexibility and clearly wishes to reach a compromise on this nuclear program," which is why Moscow lifted its own ban.

    The decision sparked condemnation from Israel and concern from Washington, as it came before the lifting of the sanctions by the UN Security Council, which originally caused Moscow to freeze the deal.

    Now Russia is arguing that the missile system is exclusively defensive and does not even fall under the sanctions.

    Iran's Amir-Abdollahian predicted that the delivery would go through "at the soonest opportunity possible."

    Iran's deputy oil minister Amirhossein Zamani-Nia said Monday he hoped for a total lifting of international sanctions later this year if world powers resolve all remaining contentious issues and strike the nuclear deal by its June 30 deadline.
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    Post  Cyberspec Wed May 27, 2015 12:41 am

    The Iranian S-300 will be new built not refurbished ones, according to Oleg Bochkarev deputy chairman of the board of the Military-Industrial Commission of the RF

    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150526/1066582229.html#ixzz3bG6TDfNU

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:08 pm

    The general director of "Almaz-Antei" is ready to deliver the S-300 to Iran

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2012784

    MOSCOW, June 2. /TASS/. The concern "Almaz-Antey" is ready to supply anti-aircraft missile systems s-300, including Iran, stated on 2 June the General Director of the concern Yan Novikov.
    "With us, all restrictions are removed, there will be a contract, will supply s-300 including the Iranian Republic," he said.

    Earlier, President Vladimir Putin has lifted restrictions on the supply of s-300 systems to Tehran. Russian officials have stated that the decision to deliver has been made, however, until the contract is finalized.
    The implementation of the previous contract to supply s-300, concluded in 2007, was suspended due to UN sanctions against Iran, imposed in the fall of 2010. Later Tehran challenged the decision by anti-aircraft systems through the court

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:22 pm

    Less announcements, more deliveries russia

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