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    Russia-Iran S-300 missile systems deal

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    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:16 am

    mack8 from the ghetto.............how are the US sanctions on russia 'for value' now?

    In the short term they have cut down Russian growth and damaged their economy... not so much ties with the US which were relatively few, but the ties with the EU and Europe which were much greater and growing.

    In the long term however the shift away from the west will greatly reduce the wests "control" over Russia and links to Russia and have forced it to look elsewhere for trade and good relations, which ultimately mean a result of turning Russia towards China and Asia and Africa and central and south America... in other words the last thing the US actually wants... an unfriendly Russia that they have no levers to pull.

    The temporary effect on their economy will not last forever and they will be the stronger for it and Democracy and the West will be even dirtier words in Russia.

    How does china's ongoing financial collapse feels?

    An economies of the west only ever go up... the whole financial system is based on bubbles that eventually burst... the bodies are cleared away and everything starts again... anyone can see the system is broken... but any alternative is communism isn't it?

    From your unintellectual comment, you have no goddamn clue of what's going on in the ME........do you?

    Ummm... in your last post...

    Also, will Russia get bribed again by the West on the S300 drama, and back out yet again at the 11:59th hour? like it usually does?

    Putin will no doubt be looked at like a joker if he backs out this time around.

    When has Putin backed out?

    Or are you referring to Russian President Medvedev deciding to not deliver S-300 systems to Iran?

    Would the current agreement have been signed if they had been delivered?

    the only people who think Putin is a joker are western retards who can't see through their own propaganda... like the leader of Australia... Costello... or was it Abbot?
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    Post  max steel Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:39 pm

    lulldapull wrote:mack8 from the ghetto.............how are the US sanctions on russia 'for value' now? Laughing

    How does china's ongoing financial collapse feels?

    From your unintellectual comment, you have no goddamn clue of what's going on in the ME........do you?





    Who said China is collapsing ? Your Murdoch media ?

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    Post  George1 Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:04 pm

    Moscow, Tehran Sign Roadmap For S-300 Deal Implementation

    A memorandum on the implementation of the agreement to supply Russian S-300 missile defense systems to Iran was signed, according to a senior official from the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Russia and Iran have signed this week a memorandum on the implementation of the agreement for the delivery of the Russian S-300 missile defense systems to Iran, a senior official from the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation said Thursday.

    "This week, a memorandum on the implementation of the agreement to supply Russian S-300 missile defense systems to Iran has been signed. It is a kind of a 'roadmap,'" the official told RIA Novosti.

    Moscow may deliver S-300 missile defense systems to Tehran by the end of 2015, Iran's defense minister said.

    He added that the memorandum does not specify a specific time frame, the number of systems to be delivered or prices.

    In 2007, Russia and Iran signed an $800-million deal for the delivery of five S-300 battalions. Moscow suspended the deal after the UN Security Council issued an arms embargo on Tehran amid suspicions that it was creating a nuclear weapon.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin lifted the ban on S-300 deliveries in April, shortly after the P5+1 group of international negotiators and Iran reached a framework nuclear agreement to remove all economic sanctions against Tehran in exchange for its pledge to cut back uranium enrichment and the number of centrifuges in the country.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150827/1026255941.html#ixzz3k1J4hWPu
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:16 pm

    lulldapull wrote:mack8 from the ghetto.............how are the US sanctions on russia 'for value' now? Laughing

    How does china's ongoing financial collapse feels?

    From your unintellectual comment, you have no goddamn clue of what's going on in the ME........do you?



    Hehe I don't see how one can laugh at Chinese bubble.bursting. after all a chunkof that 5 trillion debt comes from Western banks. So Ussanctions on Russia are zilch compared to the chinese collateral damageto western trade. If i was theUS treasury I'freze any Chinese liquidity account that is based on US bonds. You never know whentshe little fvckers decide to roll on with junk on. And that snowball effect. Think about it maing. Overnight Chinese fra items become haLf their price. Ouch that's going to hurt whatever manufacturing process was remaining in the Us.
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    Post  Cyrus the great Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:28 pm

    The Western media is a complete joke. The coverage on China's apparent economic malaise has been particularly bad; we keep hearing about how China's economy is imploding based purely on numbers on its stock market without any regard for the fact that the financial sector only constitutes a very small percentage of China's overall economic profile. China is also restructuring its economy; it is trying to develop and focus on domestic markets and consumption instead of being export driven and so it's only reasonable that there would be some dislocations as a consequence. China's real percentage growth may actually sit at 4% instead of 7% but even then China is by no means falling as some would like.


    There is such a thing as financial warcraft and so external financial attacks based on speculative assaults cannot be ruled out. The Chinese will also have to crack down on domestic speculators, which is precisely what they said they would do. China's stock markets and its real economy are not virtual synonyms and should not be regarded and treated as such.
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    Post  George1 Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:18 pm


    All political decisions on Russian S-300 supplies to Iran made — deputy FM

    Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov stressed that the contract will be signed in any case

    NIZHNY TAGIL (Sverdlovsk Region), September 9. /TASS/. The new contract on supplying Russian S-300 missile systems to Iran will be signed in the nearest future, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said on Wednesday.

    "There are no problems with Iran in this sphere. As far as I know, the contract will soon be signed. All political decisions have already been made," Ryabkov said at the sidelines of the Russian Arms Expo - 2015 (RAE-2015) that opened today in Nizhny Tagil answering a question on whether there are problems in talks between Iran and Russia on S-300.

    Ryabkov stressed that the contract will be signed in any case. Answering a question on whether Russia really insists on recalling the lawsuit that Tehran filed against Russia in connection with suspending the previous contract, the deputy foreign minister noted: "In our position, there is really an element of recalling the lawsuit. However, implementation and parameters of the new contract are commercial aspects." "The Foreign Ministry cannot comment in place of specialists on what is going on there," he added.


    Russia-Iran S-300 contract


    Under the 2007 contract, Moscow was to deliver to Tehran five divisions of the missile systems of medium range worth over $800 million. The Iranian side paid $166.8 million in advance. However, until mid-2010 the systems were not supplied to Iran.

    In September 2010, then-President Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree on measures on implementing the UN Security Council’s resolution 1929 that in particular banned the S-300 supplies to Iran. The contract was severed and the advance payment was sent back to the Islamic Republic.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin lifted the ban on the S-300 supplies to Iran in April 2015. Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Russia’s voluntary embargo on deliveries of S-300 missile systems to Iran is no longer needed due to progress in the resolution of the situation around Iran’s nuclear program.
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    Post  lulldapull Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:40 pm

    I think we will all be surprised if this still born S300 contract actually goes thru.

    So far sweet fuck all, and all bullshit talk, but no deliveries, and we are already almost into October.
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    Post  max steel Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:13 pm

    lulldapull wrote:I think we will all be surprised if this still born S300 contract actually goes thru.

    So far sweet fuck all, and all bullshit talk, but no deliveries, and we are already almost into October.


    By end of this year
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    Post  Viktor Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:34 am

    Nice thumbsup

    Russia completes preparations to deliver S-300 missiles to Iran
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    Post  George1 Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:38 pm

    Russia Modernizing S-300 Missile System for Iran

    Russia is currently modernizing the S-300 missile defense system for Iran and hopes it will able to deliver the system to Tehran, the head of Russia’s largest arms exporters said Tuesday.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – In 2007, Russia and Iran signed a $800-million deal for the delivery of five S-300 battalions. In 2011, Iran sued Rosoboronexport in the Geneva Arbitration Court after Moscow suspended the contract, citing the UN Security Council-imposed arms embargo against Tehran.

    In April 2015, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree allowing the contract to proceed shortly after the P5+1 group of international negotiators and Iran had reached a framework nuclear agreement to remove all economic sanctions against Tehran in exchange for its pledge to cut back on uranium enrichment and the number of centrifuges in the country.

    “The completion of the contract on the S-300 missile system for Iran was suspended and we’ve been given the order to renew work and as the executors, we are doing this, but much time has gone by and the S-300 system has changed so we’re working on the modernization of the system,” Rosoboronexport General Director Anatoly Isaikin told journalists.

    Isaikin said that he was sure the contract would now be honored.

    “The result will be positive, there are currently no conditions that would hamper the contract from being fulfilled,” Isaikin said.

    He emphasized that Russia delivers weapons only to the government of Iraq and the contract also stipulates the prohibition of transferring arms to other parties.

    “We have delivered and will deliver arms to only the central government of Iraq. The contract stipulates a ban on transferring weaponry into other hands or to other countries. We are completely sure that the Iranian and Syrian governments are holding to the conditions in the contracts,” Isaikin added.

    Iran will retract its $4-billion suit against Russia over S-300 missile systems that were not delivered earlier. “We have agreed with Iran on retracting the suit,” Isaikin added.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20151027/1029160581/russia-modernizing-s300-missile-system-iran.html#ixzz3plNrDj3l
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    Post  crod Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:26 am

    It really is just the same story being rehashed time and time again...looking forward to actually seeing them on the ground in Iran. Getting tired of the same story resurfacing every month.
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    Post  George1 Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:53 pm

    Rostec CEO: Russia’s contract with Iran on S-300 missile system delivery comes into force

    Sergey Chemezov didn't specify the modification of antiaircraft missile systems that would be delivered to Iran

    DUBAI, November 9. /TASS/. Russia’s contract for the delivery of S-300 air defense missile systems to Iran has been signed and has come into force, the head of state hi-tech corporation Rostec, which integrates Rosoboronexport state arms seller, said on Monday.

    "The contract on S-300 systems has been signed," Sergey Chemezov said, without specifying the modification of antiaircraft missile systems that would be delivered to Iran.

    "I believe that Iran will withdraw its claims to us, when the first part [of the contract] is completed," the Rostec CEO said.

    Russia and Iran signed a contract in 2007 for the supply of five S-300PMU-1 battalions but in the autumn of 2010 then-President Dmitry Medvedev banned the supply of these systems to Tehran. The contract worth more than $800 million was annulled and the paid advance was returned to Iran.

    Iran filed an almost $4 billion lawsuit against Russia at the Geneva Court of Arbitration over Russia’s nonfulfillment of the contract.

    In the spring of 2015, Russian President Vladimir Putin lifted the ban on the supply of S-300 systems to Tehran.
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    Post  max steel Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:53 pm

    According to Chemezov, representatives of Saudi Arabia have approached his firm "several times" urging them not to deliver the missile systems
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    Post  Viktor Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:32 pm

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    Post  Acheron Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:25 pm


    Yep, apparently all the agreements were finalized, Iranian specialists are currently being trained, and the S-300PMU-2 systems will be delivered by the end of this year: http://lenta.ru/news/2015/11/23/iran1/

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    Post  George1 Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:38 am

    Media: Russia has begun the procedure for delivery to Iran of S-300
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    Post  George1 Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:53 pm

    Kremlin confirms Russia started supplying S-300 missile systems to Iran

    Iranian ambassador to Russia Mehdi Sanai late last month said his country had received the first S-300 systems

    MOSCOW, December 3. /TASS/. Russia has begun the supplies of S-300 air defense systems to Iran, Russian presidential aide for military-technical cooperation Vladimir Kozhin has told TASS.

    "The contract is in action. They’ve begun," Kozhin said in reply to a question.

    Iranian ambassador to Russia Mehdi Sanai late last month said his country had received the first S-300 systems.

    The head of the Rostec corporation (to which the Rosoboronexport company is affiliated) Sergey Chemezov said earlier the new contract for selling S-300 to Iran had taken effect at the beginning of November. The contract was concluded after Russian President Vladimir Putin had lifted the ban from selling this air defense system to Iran. Iran will get the S-300PMU-2 configuration.

    Russia and Iran signed a contract in 2007 for the supply of five S-300PMU-1 battalions but in the autumn of 2010 then-President Dmitry Medvedev banned the supply of these systems to Tehran. The contract worth more than $800 million was annulled and the paid advance was returned to Iran.

    Iran filed an almost $4 billion lawsuit against Russia at the Geneva Court of Arbitration over Russia’s nonfulfillment of the contract.

    In the spring of 2015, Russian President Vladimir Putin lifted the ban on the supply of S-300 systems to Tehran.

    There is no official information yet which modification of S-300 Iran plans to obtain: S-300PMU-1, which has been discontinued but may be specially produced for the Iranian side, or S-300VM.
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    Post  crod Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:55 am

    George1 wrote:Kremlin confirms Russia started supplying S-300 missile systems to Iran

    Iran will get the S-300PMU-2 configuration.

    .......

    There is no official information yet which modification of S-300 Iran plans to obtain: S-300PMU-1, which has been discontinued but may be specially produced for the Iranian side, or S-300VM.


    There is a contradiction here?
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    Post  George1 Fri Dec 25, 2015 8:53 pm

    Supplies of S-300 air defense systems to Iran to begin in January 2016 — source

    Russia will train about 80 Iranian specialists to use the systems

    MOSCOW, December 25. /TASS/. The deliveries of Russian S-300PMU-2 air defense systems to Iran will begin in January, a source in the military and technical cooperation system told TASS on Friday.
    "It is planned to begin the process of delivery of the first regiment of the S-300PMU-2 air defense systems in January and to complete it in February. Iran is due to receive the second regiment of these systems in August or September 2016," the source said.
    "Russia will thus fulfill its obligations to supply the S-300PMU-2 air defense systems to Iran," he added.
    According to the source, about 80 Iranian specialists will be trained to use the S-300 missile systems (NATO reporting name SA-10 Grumble) at the Mozhaisky Military Space Academy.
    "About 80 military specialists from Iran in January, 2016 will begin a training to use S-300 at the training centers of the Mozhaisky Academy," the source said. "The training program will be four months long. Its cost is a part of the contract. After the course, supposedly in May, the Iranians will return home."
    In September the parties signed an additional agreement to the contract on the S-300 air defense systems, the source recalled. The first batch of the S-300PMU-2 systems under the contract — one regimental set — was immediately sent to the Kapustin Yar range. Currently these systems are completing tests there to confirm their stated specifications. Then they will arrive at the port of shipment in the Russian part of the Caspian Sea from where they will be delivered to Iran by maritime transport," the source said.
    Earlier, Iran ordered from Russia five S-300 divisions worth over $800 million. However, in autumn of 2010, the then President Dmitry Medvedev banned transfer of the equipment to Tehran. The contract was terminated, the prepayment was returned to Iran, but as the contract was not observed Iran filed a suit to the Geneva arbitration court claiming almost $4 billion.
    In spring 2015, Russia’s President Vladimir Putin lifted the ban on supplies of the S-300 systems to Iran. Sergei Chemezov, of the defense export authority Rosoboronexport’s Rostech Company, said in early November the contract on the systems came into force. In early December, presidential aide on military-technical cooperation Vladimir Kozhin confirmed the information. Later on, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin told reporters as the first S-300 division is supplied, Iran will revoke its lawsuit.

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    Post  max steel Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:26 pm

    Russia received an advance payment from Iran for the delivery of complex S-300

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:35 am

    Are the S-300 PMU2 from the Russian army?
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    Post  max steel Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:09 am

    Russia to Deliver S-300 Air Defense Systems to Iran Soon

    Russia will soon send S-300 air defense systems to Iran while the countries have not held any negotiations on the possibility of delivering S-400 systems.

    Russia will soon deliver S-300 air defense systems to Iran, Russian Special Presidential Envoy on Afghanistan Zamir Kabulov said.



    Iranian Defense Minister Hossein Dehghan earlier said that the first shipment of Russian S-300s would be made in the first quarter of 2016.

    Tehran has shown interest in the deliveries of Russian S-400 air defense systems but the two countries are not currently holding any negotiations on the topic, Kabulov said.

    “No, there are no talks being held on the S-400. The Iranians have noted that they would principally be happy [to receive them], but there haven’t been any negotiations,” Kabulov told RIA Novosti.

    A number of news outlets earlier cited Hossein Dehghan as saying that Tehran could purchase the S-400s from Moscow if necessary and that the issue was apparently being discussed.

    In 2007, Moscow and Tehran signed an $800-million deal for the delivery of five S-300 missile systems to Iran. In 2010, Russia suspended the contract, citing a UN Security Council resolution that placed an arms embargo on Tehran until it proved the peaceful nature of its nuclear project. Tehran filed a lawsuit against Moscow over the incident.

    In April, Moscow repealed the S-300 delivery ban, after Iran and six global powers, including Russia, reached a framework nuclear agreement to remove the anti-Tehran sanctions in exchange for guarantees of the peaceful nature of its nuclear activities.

    In mid-January, the International Atomic Energy Agency announced the conclusion of its investigation into Iran’s nuclear program, having found no indications of military-related nuclear developments in the country.



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    Post  George1 Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:47 pm

    Safe Skies: Russia to Send First S-300 Air Defense System to Iran Thursday

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160217/1034890193/russia-iran-s300.html#ixzz40QemFBUW


    Iranian DoD: We confirms that first batch of S-300 to be sent tomorrow by Caspian Sea under Hossein Dehghan control. russia

    https://twitter.com/KURYERSAT/status/699911650208575488
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    Post  AlfaT8 Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:17 pm

    George1 wrote:Safe Skies: Russia to Send First S-300 Air Defense System to Iran Thursday

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160217/1034890193/russia-iran-s300.html#ixzz40QemFBUW


    Iranian DoD: We confirms that first batch of S-300 to be sent tomorrow by Caspian Sea under Hossein Dehghan control.  russia

    https://twitter.com/KURYERSAT/status/699911650208575488

    I wonder if Israel is going to send those bombers that were mentioned a while back? Wink
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    Post  franco Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:04 pm

    Thought there was a Sale of S-300's to Iran thread but cannot locate so will put this here.

    This article says that Russia has frozen delivery of the S-300 to Iran due to Iran violating their agreement over advanced weapons to Hezbollah. This in turns violates Russia's agreement with Israel over air operations over Syria including VSK overflight of Israel airspace. Probably explains Shoigu's surprise visit to Iran last month.

    Russia suspended deliveries to Iran of S-300, says Jerusalem Post referring to the publication of the Kuwaiti Al Jarida. Moscow took this step after Israel gave the Russian authorities "unequivocal evidence" that Iran gave the Lebanese movement "Hezbollah" anti-aircraft missile and gun complexes "Carapace C-1", the paper reported.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has suspended the transfer to Iran anti-aircraft missile systems S-300, since the latter has violated this earlier promise not to transmit the high-tech Russian weapons to the Lebanese Shiite movement "Hezbollah", says Jerusalem Post, with reference to the Kuwaiti newspaper Al Jarida.

    A senior source told the Kuwaiti newspaper that the Russian leader decided to punish Tehran so after Israel gave Moscow "clear evidence" of transmission by the Iranian authorities, "Hezbollah" anti-aircraft missile and gun complexes "Carapace C-1".

    Intelligence information provided by Tel Aviv, has been confirmed by reports of Russian pilots who fly over Lebanon and Syria. Missile radars Russian Air Force were able to detect complexes "Carapace C-1" in the "regions of Lebanon under the control of Shiite militias," the article says.

    Jerusalem Post reminded that in the autumn of last year, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, speaking at the UN General Assembly, said that "Hezbollah" smuggling was driven into Lebanon complexes "Carapace C-1", as well as anti-ship cruise missile "Yakhont". As noted in the article, anti-aircraft missile and gun complexes "Carapace C-1" could pose a threat to Israeli fighter who is "used in the Lebanese sky relative freedom."

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