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Log in^^^This would also explain the inactivity of the 8-10,000 Hezbollah / Iranian mercenaries fighting in Aleppo the past couple of weeks. ^^^
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Russia-Iran S-300 missile systems deal
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franco wrote:^^^This would also explain the inactivity of the 8-10,000 Hezbollah / Iranian mercenaries fighting in Aleppo the past couple of weeks. ^^^
Just my 2 kopecks here:
1) what article source pls. IMHO Israeli and Q8 press is really not the best source of true info.
2) Pantisr 1 has been in Syrian Military around for couple of years, no wonder that can station there.
3) Second if Iran has mercenaries then any western soldier being paid is in fact a mercenary (whole l nato BTW
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GunshipDemocracy wrote:franco wrote:^^^This would also explain the inactivity of the 8-10,000 Hezbollah / Iranian mercenaries fighting in Aleppo the past couple of weeks. ^^^
Just my 2 kopecks here:
1) what article source pls. IMHO Israeli and Q8 press is really not the best source of true info.
Russian sources also commenting on it but agreed there are questions.
2) Pantisr 1 has been in Syrian Military around for couple of years, no wonder that can station there.
Panstir's were sold to Iran, not for Hezbollah in Lebanon
3) Second if Iran has mercenaries then any western soldier being paid is in fact a mercenary (whole l nato BTW
Not regular Iranian army so volunteers if that makes you happier but most are actually mercenaries so yeah
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cite some russian sources israeli right wing media outlets are hardly reliable.
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franco wrote:GunshipDemocracy wrote:[franco wrote:^^^This would also explain the inactivity of the 8-10,000 Hezbollah / Iranian mercenaries fighting in Aleppo the past couple of weeks. ^^^
Just my 2 kopecks here:
1) what article source pls. IMHO Israeli and Q8 press is really not the best source of true info.
Russian sources also commenting on it but agreed there are questions.
And Russian sources are referring to what source exactly? BTW in Russian media surely there´s no V-column and Israeli agents of influence vide. Nosik or whle Ekho of Moscow
[/quote]franco wrote:
2) Pantisr 1 has been in Syrian Military around for couple of years, no wonder that can station there.
Panstir's were sold to Iran, not for Hezbollah in Lebanon
Were sold to Syria
Actually to Syria who is the owner of Golan Heights, currently under temporary Jewish State´s occupation.
[/quote]franco wrote:
3) Second if Iran has mercenaries then any western soldier being paid is in fact a mercenary (whole l nato BTW
Not regular Iranian army so volunteers if that makes you happier but most are actually mercenaries so yeah
yup exactly like most of Jewish/US or any other "free world" armies
In Saudi or Q8 there are only actually mercenaries
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Article posted above is a goggle translation of a post from a Russian Site. The rest we wait and see.
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franco wrote:Article posted above is a goggle translation of a post from a Russian Site. The rest we wait and see.
I would love to see a link though
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GunshipDemocracy wrote:franco wrote:Article posted above is a goggle translation of a post from a Russian Site. The rest we wait and see.
I would love to see a link though
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://in24.org/politics/21143&usg=ALkJrhiwhBi5jtLEDLw3K8G8AcWLqbQlag
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- Post n°309
Thought there was a Sale of S-300's to Iran thread but cannot locate so will put this here.
sepheronx Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:26 pm
The article quotes JPost.franco wrote:GunshipDemocracy wrote:franco wrote:Article posted above is a goggle translation of a post from a Russian Site. The rest we wait and see.
I would love to see a link though
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://in24.org/politics/21143&usg=ALkJrhiwhBi5jtLEDLw3K8G8AcWLqbQlag
Nothing reliable.
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Problems in the implementation of the contract with Iran for the supply of S-300PMU-2
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1782641.html
so the transfer has been cancelled again?
They are related to the proposed Iranian negotiators payment mechanism transactions, the cost of which exceeds $ 1 billion. On the suspension of the Russian-Iranian contract for the supply of systems S-300PMU-2 Kuwaiti newspaper "Al-Jarida" wrote on 6 March. Citing its own sources, the publication said: Russian President Vladimir Putin has received from the Israeli evidence transferring Iranian arms, in particular anti-aircraft missile and gun systems "Pantsyr-S1" and anti-ship missiles such as "Yakhont" to Lebanese group "Hezbollah", and then ordered to freeze the deal.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1782641.html
so the transfer has been cancelled again?
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George1 wrote:Problems in the implementation of the contract with Iran for the supply of S-300PMU-2
They are related to the proposed Iranian negotiators payment mechanism transactions, the cost of which exceeds $ 1 billion. On the suspension of the Russian-Iranian contract for the supply of systems S-300PMU-2 Kuwaiti newspaper "Al-Jarida" wrote on 6 March. Citing its own sources, the publication said: Russian President Vladimir Putin has received from the Israeli evidence transferring Iranian arms, in particular anti-aircraft missile and gun systems "Pantsyr-S1" and anti-ship missiles such as "Yakhont" to Lebanese group "Hezbollah", and then ordered to freeze the deal.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1782641.html
so the transfer has been cancelled again?
Info is coming from Israel, i smell desperation, anyway we haven't heard anything from either Russia or Iran so we're assuming that everything is still on course.
BTW these weapon transfers happened before and it was to Syria not Hezbollah, and even if it was it's unlikely that Russia would give a damn.
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When will the military sanctions on Iran be lifted? How long is that?
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Any military sanctions that might be in place are not affecting this deal.par far wrote:When will the military sanctions on Iran be lifted? How long is that?
If this report is true, it is the reported side deal between Russia and Israel, that Russia will not supply Hesbolah with advanced weapon systems, that is being used as the reason to stop supply.
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par far wrote:When will the military sanctions on Iran be lifted? How long is that?
5 years from now, but there is a provision in the contract which states that if IAEA confirms all nuclear feasible material in Iran has been destroyed or taken out of the country
weapons sanctions can be terminated even earlier
Deal is still on but due to currency turbulence I bet they have some misunderstanding that will be settled shortly.
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JohninMK wrote:Any military sanctions that might be in place are not affecting this deal.par far wrote:When will the military sanctions on Iran be lifted? How long is that?
If this report is true, it is the reported side deal between Russia and Israel, that Russia will not supply Hesbolah with advanced weapon systems, that is being used as the reason to stop supply.
I don't know why Russia needs to make "side deals" with the Jews, if it is in the interests of Russia, just do it.
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Viktor wrote:par far wrote:When will the military sanctions on Iran be lifted? How long is that?
5 years from now, but there is a provision in the contract which states that if IAEA confirms all nuclear feasible material in Iran has been destroyed or taken out of the country
weapons sanctions can be terminated even earlier
Deal is still on but due to currency turbulence I bet they have some misunderstanding that will be settled shortly.
Thanks for the information Viktor.
Here's a video explaining on what happening with the arms deals with Iran.
https://southfront.org/iran-military-and-technical-cooperation-after-sanctions/
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Claims of Russia Suspending Iran S-300 Deliveries Are Bollocks
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magnumcromagnon wrote:Claims of Russia Suspending Iran S-300 Deliveries Are Bollocks
Until I see them on the ground on Iranian soil I wont believe the deal is going ahead.
It is becoming farcical to say the very least. What purpose would such a story serve? If they refer to an issue and that appears to be BS what was gained by it? Iran would still obtain the systems and those living in Israel would feel doubly duped; systems in Iran and given a false sense of security that Israel somehow prevented the deal.
I don't buy it, something yet again is a foot here with this deal.
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Russia to deliver first batch of S-300 systems to Iran in August or September
More:
http://tass.ru/en/defense/861580
More:
http://tass.ru/en/defense/861580
Answering a question on whether it will be a PMU-1, he noted: "Yes, they gave the conditions, and said they need only an S-300 PMU-1." "We suggested an Antey-2500, but they said no, give us the S-300," Chemezov went on. "Essentially, it’s the last system that we will deliver, and then yes, after that it probably won’t be produced anymore," he added.
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For what it's worth, according to this article the first delivery should happen in the next few days.
http://www.interfax.ru/russia/502079
http://www.interfax.ru/russia/502079
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Nice 
Russian Foreign Ministry: Moscow and Tehran are negotiating to supply Iran with S-400
Russian Foreign Ministry: Moscow and Tehran are negotiating to supply Iran with S-400
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I cannot read the link, does this mean 300 not happening now while this deal is negotiated?Viktor wrote:Nice
Russian Foreign Ministry: Moscow and Tehran are negotiating to supply Iran with S-400
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crod wrote:I cannot read the link, does this mean 300 not happening now while this deal is negotiated?Viktor wrote:Nice
Russian Foreign Ministry: Moscow and Tehran are negotiating to supply Iran with S-400
This would represent a separate deal.
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Viktor wrote:crod wrote:I cannot read the link, does this mean 300 not happening now while this deal is negotiated?Viktor wrote:Nice
Russian Foreign Ministry: Moscow and Tehran are negotiating to supply Iran with S-400
This would represent a separate deal.
Ty Victor. Well I guess should that come to pass, it will shit some people to tears and put some regional airforces up the shitter.
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crod wrote:Ty Victor. Well I guess should that come to pass, it will shit some people to tears and put some regional airforces up the shitter.
In a few years time Iran will start to receive advanced Russian weapons en masse
Rogozin: problematic issues on deliveries of S-300 to Iran is not