Project 885: Yasen class

Yes, against RF & PRC they'll be useful only to show the flag.

First video from inside Yasen-M submarine 

https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201902051630-kem5.htm


According to the “Kazan” commander Alexander Beketov, the ship received a new hydro-acoustic complex and electronic weapons, which allow detecting targets at a greater distance, as well as classify them in more detail.

In the submarine cruiser "Kazan" all modern developments of the domestic military-industrial complex are embodied.

https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201902051520-ks5f.htm

ne of the main advantages that a fourth-generation cruiser should have is noiselessness.

“If you swim in the sea and literally a few meters from you the nuclear underwater cruiser Kazan will pass, you will not hear anything,” Zimin added.

But you will feel the wake.

If the mission requires it.

More likely a mix that would include anti sub ballistic rockets too...

Arrow wrote:Yasen M will be carry 32 missile 3M22 Zirkon ?

Depends on its current Task if it's on patrol it will have a standard mixed arsenal.

Submarine are normally given their munitions a day before it leaves port and those munitions are based on what it's assigned objective is.

They can also return or pull alongside an ammo. ship to rearm in port/at sea.

Tsavo Lion wrote:They can also return or pull alongside ammo. ship to rearm in port/at sea.

Rearming submarines at SEa is A LOT harder to do and Supply ship generally aren't equipped to do that.

Subs are always re-armed in their ports, never by the use of other ships.

It's also a massive Security risk that means the sub must surface to a very long period of time.

Navy planning to bring back at-sea missile reload capability
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a27205/navy-reload-missile-silos-at-sea/

The VMF relies on subs more, so I would expect them to have that capability.

Subs are always re-armed in their ports, never by the use of other ships.

The soviets didn't always have reliable access to ports so sub tenders were quite common even with their old enormous anti ship missiles... newer weapons are much much smaller.

Tsavo Lion wrote:Navy planning to bring back at-sea missile reload capability
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a27205/navy-reload-missile-silos-at-sea/

The VMF relies on subs more, so I would expect them to have that capability.

What for?

In full sized​ conflict you will either get the job done with up to 30 missiles or there will be no point anyway

They may run out of certain kinds of Ms from the mix they carry or other ships may not be able to relieve those on station for a while.
It happens all the time in the real world.

Subs are most useful when they are armed... not all of their roles require the use of weapons of course, but being able to rearm or refuel or both at sea is a useful thing whether they actually need it or not.

A bit like inflight refuelling capacity... some planes might never operationally refuel in flight but does that mean they shouldn't be fitted with the gear?

The Soviets set up mid sea floating docks where ships with supplies or fuel could come and dock and ships or subs needing rearmed, refuelled or just restocked could go and do that all in international waters...

"Zircon" will give "Ash" significant advantages. After adopting this missile into service, the submarine of the project 885M will be able to perform almost guaranteed combat missions related to attacking the enemy. First of all, it is the defeat of aircraft carrier groups, individual large ships and naval bases, ”Knutov said.
However, as the expert explained, the main task of the submarines of the project "Yasen-M" will remain unchanged: tracking nuclear-powered strategic objectives of Western countries. Russian nuclear submarines must effectively prevent a nuclear strike from naval platforms on the territory of the Russian Federation.
"Ash" will ensure the presence of the Navy in areas of the oceans, from where the enemy can hypothetically launch ballistic missiles. I believe that, given all the resources of our fleet, to fulfill this mission, the seven nuclear submarines of Project 885 will be quite enough. Moreover, Russia does not set a goal to control the oceans, explained Knutov.
https://news.rambler.ru/army/41832061-na-chto-budut-sposobny-noveyshie-atomnye-podlodki-rossii/?updated

However, as the expert explained, the main task of the submarines of the project "Yasen-M" will remain unchanged: tracking nuclear-powered strategic objectives of Western countries.

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to fulfill this mission, the seven nuclear submarines of Project 885 will be quite enough.

Dream on loser...

That's nowhere near enough.

USN has twice as many Ohio SSBNs.

Even if Russian subs were 100% successful and everything went according to plan (which it won't) they still only have 50% or submarines required to get the job done.

Either aquire another 7 Yasens or stop taking out of your posterior

USN has twice as many Ohio SSBNs.

only 4 of them r on patrol 24/7, + 2 more from FN & RN.
The VMF also has 19 SSNs.
http://rusnavy.com/nowadays/strength/submarines/#3

Tsavo Lion wrote:Navy planning to bring back at-sea missile reload capability
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a27205/navy-reload-missile-silos-at-sea/

The VMF relies on subs more, so I would expect them to have that capability.

This is what Russia AND CHINA should be doing..

Should the Navy Turn Merchant Ships into Warships?
 

When the major war start and it will happen sooner or later ,will not be possible to avoid
it with Putin in power.. US and UK will not hesitate to use any dirty unlawful tactic..
merchant ships can be armed with cruise missiles armed with nukes.. and Civilian airliners
could be used like Americans did in World trade center in 9/11 , used as weapons to bring down
entire cities when armed with nukes..  So an american airlines 747 could have a big nuclear weapon inside , fly over moscow and BANG..  with the help of a coordinated nuclear attack , many dozens of Civilian airliners can be transformed in undercover trojan horses with nukes.

A Russian missile /submarine base in venezuela will be also important and if possible Mexico. too..
if US deploy bases near Russia ,then it will be fair Russia does the same too.

Tsavo Lion wrote:

USN has twice as many Ohio SSBNs.

only 4 of them r on patrol 24/7, + 2 more from FN & RN.
The VMF also has 19 SSNs.
.............

And only small number of them can be on duty while others are in maintenance.

How many of those 19 SSNs are in usable condition?

So an american airlines 747 could have a big nuclear weapon inside , fly over moscow and BANG.

In a conflict or shortly before it, conflict, all flights will be cancelled/airports closed & in the empty sky they'll be easy to find & shoot down.

And only small number of them can be on duty while others are in maintenance. How many of those 19 SSNs are in usable condition?

I would say not less than 6-7. Enough to deal with 4 Tridents.

Navy will receive the third nuclear submarine "Ash" in 2020

https://ria.ru/20190320/1551954714.html

Mikhail Budnichenko: the nuclear submarines of the project "Ash" can perform the function of non-nuclear strategic deterrence

http://militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=2&nid=505049&lang=RU

Severodvinsk Production Association Sevmash JSC (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation) is currently the only company in Russia where nuclear strategic missile submarines and multi-purpose nuclear submarines (APL) are being built. Interfax told Sergei Babkin about the work of the company head of the company Mikhail Budnichenko.

Russian Navy, this multi-purpose boat can perform not only anti-ship operations, but also perform the function of strategic non-nuclear deterrence due to missile equipment, stealthiness and speed.

OK with 32 ready 5Ma/800km range Onyx looks good.
Only why not to build 12-14 but only 7?


Yasen info-graphics below

https://podlodka-yasen.tass.ru/?utm_source=tass&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=article_preview

Only why not to build 12-14 but only 7?

They said they want cheaper alternative (Husky).