Cold War II_(US-West vs Russia/China tensions)

http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/757002

Well well well. So US is constantly trying to hire Russian diplomats to join other side. Guess Russia should expose these people, and persecute them under Russian law. Put a US citizen in a Russian prison.

sepheronx wrote:http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/757002

Well well well. So US is constantly trying to hire Russian diplomats to join other side. Guess Russia should expose these people, and persecute them under Russian law. Put a US citizen in a Russian prison.

I've posted this fact already about a year ago, provided with a video where russian diplomats are going into US embassy on the very same day to some "meeting" and were all acting aggressivley/suspiciously to reporters when asked what they were doing there.

Russia’s post 1999 Revival and its forging Alliances with China, India and the other BRICS Has Alarmed the US


After 7-8 August 2008, when the Georgian leadership, with US support, attempted to annihilate South Ossetia, the world once again changed substantially. 
Everything was staked on surprise. The Georgian dictator believed that a military incursion on the opening day of the international Olympic Games would put Russia in a difficult position, and the Georgians, taking advantage of this, would carry out their “blitzkrieg”. However, the Russian leadership reacted promptly to the sharp deterioration in the situation and the necessary measures were adopted to halt the aggression.

After the August events in the Caucasus, Washington was clearly alarmed by Russia’s obvious intention to take its place among the world powers of the 21st century and uphold the principle of equal opportunities and full autonomy in global politics. And also to convert the state’s financial income from the exploitation of natural resources into real economic and defence potential and human capital.

The American leadership clearly also disliked the prospects of Russia’s collaboration with China and India, the introduction of the practice of summits in the BRICS format, the successful activity of other organizations in which Russia occupies leading positions (the CSTO [Collective Security Treaty Organization], the SCO [Shanghai Cooperation Organization], and the EAEC [Eurasian Economic Community]), and the formation of the Customs Union.


In the context of the growing world financial and economic crisis, major new players in the international arena such as the PRC, India, Brazil, and Iran as well as the growing economies of Southeast Asia and South Korea became increasingly significant factors for the United States. Hence, incidentally, the emergence of new conceptual principles such as the American-Chinese special partnership, the strategic collaboration between the United States and India, the establishment of direct dialogue between Washington and Iran, and so forth.


Indications of the need to resume the beneficial dialogue with Russia on a whole range of issues began to emerge from the new administration of President Barack Obama. This positive inclination on the part of the American authorities could only be welcomed.


However, it soon became clear that Washington is not inclined towards real cooperation. It confined itself to mere statements of friendliness and the devising of certain negotiation tracks from which the benefit to Russia, in the end, proved almost zero. After a while even totally nonbinding positive dialogues of this kind came to an end and the US attitude towards our country began once again to be reminiscent of cold war times.

The US aims to gain Control of Russia’s Energy, Food and Water Resources to Seal its Domination


……specialists are certain that no real substitute for hydrocarbons as the basis of power generation will emerge in the next few decades. Furthermore the understanding prevails in the West that the total capacity of nuclear, hydro, wind, solar, and other power stations will meet no more than one-fifth of world demand.
Nor should another important aspect be forgotten. In the modern world we can observe a steady growth in the shortage of food and drinking water for the growing population of the planet. The absence of the most elementary means of existence pushes desperate people into manifestations of extremism and involvement in terrorism, piracy, and crime. This is one reason for the acute conflicts between countries and regions and also for mass migration.


The shortage of water and irrigated land is not infrequently the cause of friction, for instance, between the Central Asian republics. The problem of water resources is acute in a number of other countries in Asia and particularly in Africa.
Many American experts, in particular former US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, assert that there are vast territories “under Moscow’s power” that it is incapable of exploiting and which therefore “do not serve the interests of all humanity”. Assertions continue to be heard about the “unfair” distribution of natural resources and the need to ensure so-called “free access” to them for other states.
The Americans are convinced that people must be thinking in similar terms in many other states, particularly those neighbouring on Russia, and that in the future they will, as is nowadays the custom, form “coalitions” to support the corresponding claims on our country. As in the case of Ukraine, it is proposed to resolve problems at Russia’s expense but without taking its interests into account.

Interview with Russian NSA

http://russia-insider.com/en/print/859

US Ambassador Reignites Cold War Rhetoric in Kyrgyzstan

It seems US is very upset they got kicked out of Kyrgyzstan and said this. But aint working for the US.

I wonder when does Kyrgyzstan joins Eurasian Union?

Thanks for the post sphereonx.

This already tells you everything what you have to know about US's ambitions for Kyrgystan.

Kyrgyzstan’s “growing partnership with Russia … [is] a challenge to our efforts to support Kyrgyzstan’s democracy,” the ambassador, Pamela Spratlen, wrote in an article for an association publication for American diplomats. Spratlen did not elaborate on the claim about the threat to Kyrgyzstan’s democracy, but she did note that as a result of Russian pressure and influence, Kyrgyzstan evicted a U.S. military base, is set to join the Russia-led Eurasian Union, and has largely accepted the Russian narrative of what is happening in Ukraine.

So not wanting an Evil empire military base is already an "undemocratic" act which brings Kyrgystan on the radar of US.

The US is through and through an impirial force that tries to bully everyone and use rhetoric of democracy which it never had in its own boarders.

United States is overextended and yet her economy is finished. Imagine what is gonna happen when they have to retreat and lose their privileges and their puppets.
Only communist paranoia will be comparable with the level of suffering.

Kyrgyzstan is part of csto and once part of Eurasian Union, US will have no ability for pressure anymore. Heck, they lost that prior to being part of either organization. And the Kyrgyzstan media is no fan of US.

They lost their chance. And now crying.

The Second Cold War, also known as Cold War II or the New Cold War, is a term used for the renewed ongoing tensions, hostilities, and political rivalry between the Russian Federation (beginning under the Obama and Putin administrations) against the United States and the European Union (or entities such as the G7 and NATO)

Background

The conflict follows 23 years after the first Cold War ended, which was fought between the United States and the Soviet Union and took place over much of the 20th century, finally ending in December 1991 following the collapse of the Soviet Union. These tensions have gradually escalated over the course of the early 21st century, beginning with NATO expansion into eastern Europe. Russia voiced deep concern over NATO enlargement into former Soviet spheres of influence, as well as concern over the United States national missile defense program feeling both NATO expansion and the US missile defense program as a threat to Russian national security. Russia stated if the USA were to deploy an ABM shield in Poland and Czech Republic, then Russia would respond by deploying Iskander missiles in Kaliningrad. Relations between Russia and the United States were further exacerbated by the 2008 Russo-Georgian War. Relations reached their lowest levels in early 2014 when the Ukrainian government was toppled during the 2014 Ukrainian revolution. During the aftermath of the revolution Russia annexed Crimea, and by August 2014, relations between the United States, European Union, and Russia were claimed to have deteriorated to a point "beyond repair."

2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine and Syrian Civil War

Although not strictly the beginning of the crisis, use of the term "Cold War II" and speculation over its appropriateness grew as tensions between Russia and the West escalated through the 2014 Russian military intervention in Ukraine, the Russian involvement in the 2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine and the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, an action for which pro-Russian separatists were held responsible. By August 2014, both sides had implemented economic, financial, and diplomatic sanctions upon each other. Russia is temporarily suspended from the G8 following their annexation of the Crimean peninsula in March.[6] As such, the G8 summit originally planned to take place in Sochi, Russia earlier in June was cancelled; instead, an alternative G7 summit was held in Brussels, Belgium.

Looks like this time around the "developing" world will not be taken for a ride and will give Uncle Sam and its minions the middle finger. Brazil told
the EU morons to f*ck off when they tried to put pressure on it not to sell produce that was blocked by Russia from the EU as
part of retaliatory sanctions.

There is no ideological basis to the new cold war. Russia is not spreading some sort of destabilization to the rest of the world. It is the
USA that is exporting revolution and destabilization. I think the blowback will be severe for the USA and it will be the country that the
"un-west" will try to contain.

Putin: Russia has no plans to contest with West or build "Iron Curtain"

MOSCOW, November 23. /TASS/. Russia is not planning to contest with Western countries or erect a new “Iron Curtain,” but the country will struggle for its geopolitical interests and develop its agenda, Russian President Vladimir Putin said in an interview with Andrei Vandenko, the author of the TASS project Top Officials.

“We don’t need to contest. We simply don’t need to contest,” he said. “We simply need to calmly implement our agenda,” the president believes.

Putin is calm about the attempts to pressure Russia from outside. “As soon as Russia rises to its feet, gets stronger and claims its right to defend its interests outside its territory, the attitude to the state and its leaders changes in the twinkle of an eye,” he said.

He recalled how it was with Russia’s first president, Boris Yeltsin. “In the first stages, the world approved everything. The West received everything he did with unequivocal cheers. But as soon as he spoke up in defense of Yugoslavia, he immediately turned into a drinker and a carrier of all vices in the mind of the Westerners,” Putin reminded.

“It’s an open secret, of course, that Yeltsin loved to give himself a damp. And was there anyone who did not know about it before? Everyone knew it, but it did not hinder his contacts with the world,” he added.

“And as soon as the moment came to defend Russia’s interests in the Balkans and he stated it openly, he turned almost into an enemy of the West,” the president stated.

According to Putin, today the similar situation is around Ukraine. “It is assumed that Russia has interests there but our right to defend them and the people living in those territories is denied,” he said.

“We are told, why are you pressing forward with the idea of the Russian world all the time, what if people don’t want to live in it? No one is pressing forward with it, which doesn’t mean however that it does not exist,” Putin added.

“But when Russia begins to speak about it and to defend people and its own interests, it turns into a bad guy at once,” the president said.

“And do you think it’s the East of Ukraine that really matters? Does the problem lurk in our position on eastern Ukraine or Crimea? Not at all. Were it this particular pretext, any other would be found. And this has always been so,” he said.

The president is confident that “we shouldn’t fan any passions over it on our side.”

“One should understand: that’s how the world is functioning. It implies the struggle for geopolitical interests and, consequently, the nation’s significance, as well as the ability to generate a new economy, to resolve social problems, and to improve living standards,” Putin explained.

“The struggle for geopolitical interests leads to the situation when a country either becomes stronger, resolving its financial, defense, economic and subsequently social issues more effectively, or slides into the category of third-, fifth-rate countries, losing a possibility to safeguard the interests of its people,” he stated.

The president also said that Russia is not planning to fence itself off from the rest of the world and build new fences. “We are not and will be not,” he said. “We realize the malignity of the ‘iron curtain’ for us,” Putin said.

“There were periods in the history of other countries, which tried to isolate themselves from the rest of the world and paid very dearly for that, practically by degradation and collapse. Undoubtedly we are not taking this path. And nobody is going to build a wall around us. It is impossible!” the president assured.

The west is declining relative to the rest of the world. A repeat of Cold War I will not happen.

As long as Russia acts reasonably, most of the world will not join any Washington instigated crusade
against it. This is already clear from the events of the last several months. Only NATO is foaming
at the mount about "Russian invasion of Ukraine". China and India recognized the "annexation" of
Crimea from the beginning.

We'll see how long Washington is huffing and puffing when its shale bubble bursts. The US is
a major energy importer (it is not exporting oil as claimed by various ridiculous media reports,
it exports some refined products but still needs to import 8 million barrels per day of oil). Washington
has pushed its quislings in the EU to shoot themselves in the head by sabotaging the South Stream
project. Supposedly the USA will be shipping "cheap" LNG to Europe and China and the Martians.
BS. It does not have enough natural gas reserves to start exporting, it is a natural gas importing
nation. LNG will never be cheap.

US Plans to Deploy 150 Tanks in Eastern Europe

I stumbled across this detailed piece several days ago. All the talks about New Cold War will not end well for both, but will even be worse for the United States.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/12/09/washingtons-frozen-war-against-russia/

Worse Than Cold War

The neocons who manipulate America’s clueless politicians have not got us into a new Cold War. It is much worse. The long rivalry with the Soviet Union was “Cold” because of MAD, Mutual Assured Destruction. Both Washington and Moscow were perfectly aware that “Hot” war meant nuclear exchanges that would destroy everybody.

This time around, the United States thinks it already “won” the Cold War and seems to be drunk with self-confidence that it can win again. It is upgrading its nuclear weapons force and building a “nuclear shield” on Russia’s border whose only purpose can be to give the United States a first strike capacity – the ability to knock out any Russian retaliation against a U.S. nuclear attack. This cannot work, but it weakens deterrence.

The danger of outright war between the two nuclear powers is actually much greater than during the Cold War. We are now in a sort of Frozen War, because nothing the Russians say or do can have any effect. The neocons who manufacture U.S. policy behind the scenes have invented a totally fictional story about Russian “aggression” which the President of the United States, the mass media and now the Congress have accepted and endorsed. Russian leaders have responded with honesty, truth and common sense, remaining calm despite the invective thrown at them. It has done no good whatsoever. The positions are frozen. When reason fails, force follows. Sooner or later.

Bulgaria: 'NATO will use us to attack Crimea' - Ataka's Siderov

magnumcromagnon wrote:Bulgaria: 'NATO will use us to attack Crimea' - Ataka's Siderov

Could be like the video of the Ukrainian Rada MP who predicted the coup a year before it.

NATO is moving towards war on Russia. The sanctions and silly threats of SWIFT termination for Russia are irrelevant.
If NATO is serious about removing Russia as competitor in the global economy (aka "threat") it will have to attack.

But I do not see how NATO can guarantee that Russia's nuclear arsenal will be compromised (from within) that they
would dare a conventional action. Russia is not going to restrain itself in Crimea. Not only will Russia have the
capacity to defend it from any NATO land grab via conventional means, it will also have the option of using tactical
nukes.

Perhaps they are hoping that Russia has to ultimately invade Ukraine to secure its interests. But here too the situation
is not playing out according to any NATO plan.

kvs wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:Bulgaria: 'NATO will use us to attack Crimea' - Ataka's Siderov

Could be like the video of the Ukrainian Rada MP who predicted the coup a year before it.  

NATO is moving towards war on Russia.   The sanctions and silly threats of SWIFT termination for Russia are irrelevant.
If NATO is serious about removing Russia as competitor in the global economy (aka "threat") it will have to attack.

But I do not see how NATO can guarantee that Russia's nuclear arsenal will be compromised (from within) that they
would dare a conventional action.   Russia is not going to restrain itself in Crimea.   Not only will Russia have the
capacity to defend it from any NATO land grab via conventional means, it will also have the option of using tactical
nukes.

Perhaps they are hoping that Russia has to ultimately invade Ukraine to secure its interests.  But here too the situation
is not playing out according to any NATO plan.

They have to wait untill Putin's presidential term runs out and than try to push and install Nemzov,Navalny,Rosa or any other 5th columnist who all are proven and caught taking instructions right from US embassy, which should be closed and jailed everyone who does not leave the country within 12 hours. This is their only option a coup within or more likely trying to install such subhumans like Navalny,Nemzov,Rosa and who ever the rest of the scum is trying to run for presidency.

Obama Set to 'Further Isolate' Russia

White House spokesman announced that US President Barack Obama is determined that the United States must continue its efforts to isolate Russia.

WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — US President Barack Obama is determined that the United States must continue its efforts to isolate Russia, White House spokesman Josh Earnest said.

“I can tell you that the President’s view continues to be that this administration needs to be continually assessing what our strategy is to further isolate the Putin regime in Russia to convince them to re-evaluate their strategy in Ukraine,” Earnest told reporters Monday.

The United States’ Russia policy has so far been successful, according to the White House spokesman.

In addition to “uniting the international community around this principle of respecting the territorial integrity and sovereignty of other countries”, the US strategy has helped devalue the Rouble and cause debt evaluators to downgrade Russia’s securities, Earnest stated.

Relations between Russia and the United States deteriorated greatly in 2014 amid the crisis in Ukraine. Washington, alongside a number of western allies, introduced several rounds of anti-Russia sanctions, blaming Moscow of providing pro-independence militia in eastern Ukraine with military support.

Russia has repeatedly denied any involvement in the conflict, deeming sanctions as counterproductive and calling on the warring sides in Ukraine to engage in direct dialogue to find a political solution to the crisis.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150203/1017687531.html#ixzz3Qg9HQYQq

Russia to Give ‘Adequate’ Response to NATO’s Expansion

According to the Russian envoy to NATO, the "serious changes in the military-political situation" along the Russian border will "naturally" lead to changes in Russia's military planning, aimed at ensuring the country's security.

BRUSSELS (Sputnik) – NATO's recent decision to set up additional command centers in six different countries will inevitably lead to "adequate" changes in Russia's military planning, the country's envoy to the alliance, Alexander Grushko, has told Russian journalists.

"The opening up of additional military potential along our borders is nothing more than an attempt to exert pressure on Russia," Grushko said, adding that Russia's response will be "adequate" in any case.

According to the envoy, the "serious changes in the military-political situation" along the Russian border will "naturally" lead to changes in Russia's military planning, aimed at ensuring the country's security.

On Thursday, the defense ministers of NATO member-states agreed on the creation of six new command and control posts in Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Romania during a meeting in Brussels. The ministers also announced that NATO's Response Force would be doubled to include up to 30,000 people.

NATO Chief Admits Russia Poses No Threat to Baltic States, Eastern Europe
The decision "creates a great risk for Russia", primarily in the Baltics, which could become a region of "military confrontation", Grushko stressed.

On Thursday, the defense ministers of NATO member-states agreed on the creation of six new command and control posts in Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Romania during a meeting in Brussels. The ministers also announced that NATO's Response Force would be doubled to include up to 30,000 people.

The decision "creates a great risk for Russia", primarily in the Baltics, which could become a region of "military confrontation", Grushko stressed.

The envoy added that the creation of a joint training center in Georgia, announced by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg on Thursday, will also contribute to geopolitical tensions and the aggravation of regional security.

"The training center in Georgia is a step that cannot be considered anything but provocation. There is no necessity for NATO to create any [training] centers," Grushko said, stressing that countries in the Black Sea region are capable of ensuring their own security.

Stoltenberg said at a press conference Thursday, following the Brussels meeting of NATO defense ministers, that the training center, to be set up in the Georgian capital, Tbilisi, will train both Georgian and NATO troops.

NATO's growing presence in Eastern Europe has been the subject of geopolitical tensions, with Russia having expressed growing concern over the buildup of NATO forces along its western border.

NATO, which has accused Russia of being involved in the Ukrainian crisis, claims that the expansion is aimed at protecting its member-states and allies.

NATO Weapon Supplies to Ukraine Would Lead to ‘Unpredictable’ Consequences

If NATO decides to give lethal aid to Kiev, which continues to fight independence supporters in the southeast, it could have "unpredictable" results, Alexander Grushko, has stressed.

"NATO tells us that it does not supply anything, that lethal arms are not being supplied [to Ukraine]. The NATO leadership draws a line between supplies from the alliance and declares that NATO does not have weapons, all weapons are national, there are no NATO systems per se…however, from the perspective of the situation on the ground there would be no difference whether weapons would be supplied by NATO or separate NATO member-states," Grushko told Russian journalists.

"In either case, we presume that these deliveries are unacceptable, they would significantly aggravate the situation [in Ukraine] and could lead to the most dangerous and unpredictable consequences", the envoy stressed.

NATO allies disagree about providing lethal aid to Kiev that launched a military operation against independence supporters in Ukraine's southeast last spring.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel confirmed Tuesday that Germany will not provide weapons to Ukraine and will pursue a peaceful solution to the military conflict. However, US Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John McCain continues to urge the Obama administration to provide Ukraine with lethal assistance.

On Tuesday, Denis Pushilin, the negotiator of the self-proclaimed people's republic of Donetsk (DPR) at the Minsk talks on Ukrainian reconciliation announced that shells with NATO markings have been used in Horlivka in southeastern Ukraine.

Pushilin also said that US warfare tactics are being used by Kiev forces that are fighting independence supporters in the region.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150206/1017858328.html#ixzz3Qy13kz5l

Russia, China Not to Accept America’s Vassalage Status Despite US Pressure

The US is playing with fire by instigating a military standoff off Russian and Chinese borders, while neither the South China Sea nor Ukraine can be considered America’s backyards; Washington needs to understand that neither Russia nor China will accept its vassalage status, according to the Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia.

The bipolar world ended with the end of the Cold War, the US attempt of a unipolar world has ended up in fiasco, but what is now being suggested as true pluralism and consensus in international relations, is seen by the US as "uncertainty" and "danger", which must be ended by force, the newspaper correspondent Rafael Poch wrote in his blog.

Washington is now committed to blocking the rise of two large nuclear-armed countries, the journalist says, echoing US economist and a columnist Paul Craig Roberts who served as an Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration.

To restrain Russia, the US has created the crisis in Ukraine.

China is now confronted with the Pivot to Asia and the construction of new US naval and air bases to ensure Washington’s control of the South China Sea, now defined as an area of American national interests.

Just last week US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter announced the US New Maritime Security Initiative at the Shangri-La Dialogue, Asia’s premier security summit held annually in Singapore.

It comes as ‘the next phase’ of the US rebalances to the Asia-Pacific.

As it is done with Russia, the bloggers explains, the US regularly resorts to the provocative practice of sending aircraft and warships on patrol just within the limits of the areas of its adversary, which generates constant tensions in the regions.

Washington however needs to understand that neither Russia nor China will yield to the US pressure and won’t accept the vassalage status prepared for them by the US, as did Europe, Canada, Australia, and Japan.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20150606/1023034681.html#ixzz3cIqLgkHo

The idiots in Washington think their sanctions games and saber rattling will somehow cut off China and Russia from
advancing. This is epic retardation. All that will happen is that the USA and its EU vassals will shrivel up as the
global economy moves on and leaves them behind.

It is important to point out that NATO and close associates about for half of the world's GDP (I will give the western
sources of this information the benefit of the doubt and assume they are not inflated numbers). Back during the
1970s this block accounted for almost 75% of the world's GDP. Clearly the Washington retards are stuck in the
past and think nothing has changed.

US Would 'Stand Up' to Russian Revival of Soviet Sphere of Influence

The United States is not going to make an enemy out of Russia, but will counter any effort by Moscow to reestablish the Soviet sphere of influence, US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said in a speech at the Atlantik Brucke (Atlantic Bridge) conference in Berlin.

WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The Defense Secretary claimed Russia had flouted international law, and destabilized the European security order by annexing Crimea and allegedly supporting continuing violence in eastern Ukraine.

“We do not seek a cold, let alone a hot war with Russia. We do not seek to make Russia an enemy. But make no mistake, we will defend our allies… We will stand up to Russia's actions and their attempts to reestablish a Soviet-era sphere of influence.”

Since Crimea’s reunification with Russia, Carter asserted, the United States, NATO and the European Union (EU) “have made clear to Russia that its aggressive actions have no place in today's world.”

Russia, however, contends NATO has relentlessly expanded eastward breaking solemn commitments given by US leaders before the collapse of the Soviet Union, increasing the threat-level on its borders.

Moscow has pointed out it is the United States and the European Union that supported the violent coup toppling Ukraine’s democratically-elected President Viktor Yanukovych in February 2014, and this set off the secession of Ukraine’s two eastern provinces of Lugansk and Donetsk.

Since then, the Kiev successor regime of President Petro Poroshenko, backed by Washington, has used heavy artillery and air attacks against cities and villages in Eastern Ukraine.

Moreover, Russia has pointed out that more than 90 percent of Crimea’s voters chose to reunify with Russia through a democratic referendum.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150623/1023724197.html#ixzz3dulXaqPh

What's so bad about re-establishing "the Soviet sphere of influence"? Nothing says it will be anti-democratic except for the
fake NATO "democracies" who are all imperial vassals of the USA. NATO does not get to decide for the rest of the planet what
is important and how they should live. It is time for NATO to be contained. These clowns have been attempting to dominate
the planet for centuries. They have a clear record of evil that is also still very much active.

kvs wrote:What's so bad about re-establishing "the Soviet sphere of influence"?   Nothing says it will be anti-democratic except for the
fake NATO "democracies" who are all imperial vassals of the USA.   NATO does not get to decide for the rest of the planet what
is important and how they should live.   It is time for NATO to be contained.    These clowns have been attempting to dominate
the planet for centuries.   They have a clear record of evil that is also still very much active.

I have no issue with nato existing, a cohesive organisation that unites the majority of european states gives the continent a level of security and stability never before seen in history. The problem begins when nato believes it must constantly expand and take in new members and believs it can do whatever it wants with nobody to oppose it. You need an opposite force to push back and keep it in check. Since the breakup of the ussr this brief period of a unipolar world has given the US and nato the erroneous belief that they have the god given right to rule the world alone for all time. They will get the message, eventually. But there will be plently of blood, sweat, tears and lots of hysteria coming out of the white house and nato before then.

The US goal is not to prevent the restablishment of "the Soviet sphere of influence" but to cut Russia economically and politically from its neigbours and prevent the creation of an economic alliance that could function independently from the US sphere of influence.

From an US perspective, countries, and moreover alliances, that are independent from US effective hegemony are a bad thing.

Since the US understood that it could eventually lose its dominant position in the World, it seems to have decided to prevent this outcome at all costs, and becomes more and more active, even agressive in attempts to counter any chain of events that would weaken its dominant global position.

I remember the TV debate about security with McCain in Obama's first campaign.

He stated that increasing economic ties between China and South America represent a security (!) threat to the United States...

No one in the US or Western media found this statement problematic. (The Chinese also kept quiet, probably to avoid "influencing" the campaign).

BTW. economic ties of South America with China are a "security threat" for the USA, but the expansion of NATO, attempts to cut economic ties with neighbours and sabotage Russian efforts to create its own economic alliances would not represent a security threat to Russia, and Russia has no reasons to worry...

Interestingly, Brzezinski aso appeared on TV (CNN or CNBC, I don't remember) during that first campaign, and higly praised Obama for having read all his books and "was impressed" how well he understood and agreed with the geostrategic concepts in his books. (Let's remind that in his books, he advocates the dismembering of Russia among other things - for the "good of Russia" of course - to "free its creativity"... )

Unfortunately, I can't find that interview on Youtube, but here is a speech where Obama praises Brzezinski as the greatest US intellectual / thinker of our times:

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That speech is clearly a reassurance to some circles of power that he will not deviate from the US hegemonic strategic line.


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